Because most people don't even know what it is, and I do get questions at support like "do I need to add an ISNI? I don't know what that is!" relatively often
2017-03-25 08433, 2017
CatQuest
yep
2017-03-25 08406, 2017
CatQuest
but I approve of things like matirx codes and waht not
2017-03-25 08448, 2017
CatQuest
we could easily add the ability for more barcodes (like you said!)
2017-03-25 08448, 2017
CatQuest
especially for those things that come with books/audiobooks so also have an isbn
2017-03-25 08404, 2017
CatQuest
and those that have (for reasons unknown) more barcodes, yay
2017-03-25 08418, 2017
CatQuest
and oh yes, the HS attribute for instruments, please
2017-03-25 08438, 2017
CatQuest
why cant i upvote that more thna once! :P
2017-03-25 08446, 2017
Sophist
samj1912: If changing astrcmp to work with Py3 is easy, then at least you have a choice between continuing to use astrcmp (used only by us and supported by us - that is if anyone knows how it works and is willing to support it) or switching to the python package (which is stated as already working with Py3, is open source and used by several projects and which is actively supported - last
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Sophist
commit in Oct 2016).
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samj1912
zas: ^ thoughts?
2017-03-25 08413, 2017
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samj1912
python-Levenshtein is implemented in C as well, so there shouldn't be any performance issues
2017-03-25 08443, 2017
zas
if we can get our astrcmp to work, i see no reason to add another dependency on an external module, but if it actually simplifies packaging and/or building
2017-03-25 08442, 2017
zas
but perhaps the module implementation is better, i didn't check in details
2017-03-25 08440, 2017
Sophist
From memory I think astrcmp is used in ranking files to tracks - to calculate how well the titles match. An important function and one which is n^2 (ranking every file in a cluster with every track in the album) - so performance is probably reasonably important otherwise edge cases for albums with a hundred or more tracks would perform 100x worse than one with 10 tracks.
if we open file/options, it causes tons of errors :P
2017-03-25 08436, 2017
zas
Well, it is more or less expected and iguess there will be a lot of work with unicode related changes (to simplify...)
2017-03-25 08409, 2017
zas
TheFreeMind: better ask on #musicbrainz
2017-03-25 08427, 2017
samj1912
zas: yes
2017-03-25 08444, 2017
samj1912
currently just trying to see if I can get a working port with six
2017-03-25 08400, 2017
samj1912
another problem is that I switched to pyqt5.8.1
2017-03-25 08436, 2017
samj1912
which changes the way requests are handled in QNetworkRequests
2017-03-25 08445, 2017
samj1912
it now expects is parameters to be bytes
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samj1912
and outputs a qbytesarray
2017-03-25 08441, 2017
zas
i really wonder why we don't just use python requests for network stuff...
2017-03-25 08445, 2017
samj1912
will make a lot of stuff easier :P
2017-03-25 08411, 2017
samj1912
I have no idea how it will interact with Qt multithreading though
2017-03-25 08440, 2017
reosarevok
TheFreeMind: it will take at least two days to be removed even if a lot of people vote, anyway (but yeah, for non-coding stuff, #musicbrainz is the better channel :) )
couldn't we just use series? and have a series type "box set"? it mean it's literally basically what a boxset is.. except for being released one by one it's wrapped in a box- like?
2017-03-25 08400, 2017
BrainzBot
MBS-4450: Box set support
2017-03-25 08422, 2017
CatQuest
or if not, it's very, very similar and cna probably use the same ideas
2017-03-25 08438, 2017
CatQuest
so that we could use that and jsut make "barcodes" and such on the "box set"
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CatQuest
(on a moderately related note I wish I could convert a release with many mediums into a series instead, since way back before NGS we had only rels to link stuff like different discs, so there are some that are "this is the next disc in the set" where "set" was actually volumes, and are now one big mega release, and that is wrong)
i never made that topic and i definitly don't want it apearing as such
2017-03-25 08427, 2017
CatQuest
I can't evne edit it :/
2017-03-25 08411, 2017
reosarevok
Well, it seems like it was just a semi-OT section of a different topic that got split as its own topic - that seems fine? What's so bad about it?
2017-03-25 08425, 2017
CatQuest
i havent made tat a topic!
2017-03-25 08428, 2017
CatQuest
:/
2017-03-25 08442, 2017
CatQuest
it was areply to some thing. i wasnt at the time aware that it was too "OT"
2017-03-25 08451, 2017
CatQuest
I would instead have edited the original reply
2017-03-25 08400, 2017
reosarevok
The whole point of having a fluid forum is that if something seems like it can be its own topic, it can be made into one
2017-03-25 08419, 2017
reosarevok
I guess whoever split it thought it was worthy of its own topic, to see if more people had opinions either way :)
2017-03-25 08422, 2017
CatQuest
and yet, this was never intended as a separate topic
2017-03-25 08424, 2017
reosarevok
(I don't think it was me, but)
2017-03-25 08445, 2017
reosarevok
How is it a bad thing though?
2017-03-25 08447, 2017
CatQuest
yea, good in theory, but we ll know no topic of mine get any views so thats sorta pointless, isnt it?
2017-03-25 08458, 2017
CatQuest
s/views/replies
2017-03-25 08440, 2017
CatQuest
it's bad because i can't edit it or make it better: actually *make* it insot a suggestion at all,
2017-03-25 08441, 2017
reosarevok
I'm wondering if it maybe is because it's quite old? Just reply to it if you want to add something, or it might even be better to just add a new topic I guess :/
2017-03-25 08403, 2017
CatQuest
it's bad because it's away of censoring out that opinion from the original topic (where I don't feel it was off topic from what was talked about but)
2017-03-25 08403, 2017
CatQuest
it's bad because it *didn't* inspire any more onversations, it jsut died
2017-03-25 08420, 2017
CatQuest
reosarevok: seriously, ?
2017-03-25 08425, 2017
CatQuest
maybe if you did it
2017-03-25 08441, 2017
CatQuest
oh wait ,wasn't that already a discussion about prepsisions and how we do it?
2017-03-25 08445, 2017
CatQuest
oh, my bad
2017-03-25 08448, 2017
CatQuest
no
2017-03-25 08405, 2017
reosarevok
Well, it's still good to have it there IMO. If someone comes looking for such a topic in the future, they can just comment on it and continue it
2017-03-25 08412, 2017
CatQuest
except.
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CatQuest
it
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CatQuest
was
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CatQuest
not
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CatQuest
a topic
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CatQuest
it was
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CatQuest
a
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CatQuest
replu!
2017-03-25 08423, 2017
CatQuest
reply*
2017-03-25 08443, 2017
reosarevok
What's the difference? It doesn't really feel out of place as a topic to me. The two things are intended to be fluid
2017-03-25 08455, 2017
reosarevok
AFAICT that's part of the design of discourse, anyway
2017-03-25 08412, 2017
reosarevok
That anything can just be popped into a topic if it seems appropriate
2017-03-25 08430, 2017
CatQuest
it seems hella wak to me and will
2017-03-25 08430, 2017
CatQuest
this is why I deleted my enitre reply to the talk about edit sprints because it was to "off topic" and caller wanted ot move it so i rather jsut edit what i said thna be moved somewhere else
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CatQuest
I would like to decide what i make a topic and wahat is a discussion
2017-03-25 08424, 2017
reosarevok
Well, feel free to talk to Freso about it - is there some way to flag the post with a reason? I haven't tried
2017-03-25 08446, 2017
CatQuest
I mean, excuse the hell outa me for writing 6 paragraphs and thinking for 2 days about something but just some random reply to some thing is consithered "a topic worty of it's own"
2017-03-25 08407, 2017
reosarevok
A topic doesn't need to be long, it just needs to be :)
2017-03-25 08417, 2017
reosarevok
Some topic starters need to be long, some don't
2017-03-25 08430, 2017
CatQuest
wrong: it needs to be thought out and planned:
2017-03-25 08430, 2017
CatQuest
not that it does anything
2017-03-25 08435, 2017
reosarevok
"Hey, why are we doing this particular thing anyway?" is a perfectly good one-sentence long topic start
2017-03-25 08446, 2017
CatQuest
FINE
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CatQuest
if
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CatQuest
it was INTENDED like that
2017-03-25 08459, 2017
CatQuest
FFS why is this so hard to grok
2017-03-25 08403, 2017
reosarevok shrugs
2017-03-25 08421, 2017
CatQuest
I want control of my own sayings
2017-03-25 08431, 2017
CatQuest
that is not a good topic
2017-03-25 08435, 2017
CatQuest
it's a conversation
2017-03-25 08450, 2017
CatQuest
"I honestly still think that "with" should be lowercase as it is a preposition like the other two and three letter words"