request object can have attributes related to the actual request (host, port, etc. reducing the number of arguments of get, post functions) and task object can have priority and all associated with it (again reducing arguments)
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samj1912
each task can have a response parser associated with it
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samj1912
and we can have a subclass of a task dispatched which hooks a particular type of response parser to each request object
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samj1912
does this sound good?
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samj1912
s/dispatched/dispatcher
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samj1912
this way we can support multiple different response parsers at the same time while maintaining a single queue and WS
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samj1912
zas?
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zas
yes, looks ok to me
2017-07-08 18904, 2017
cjnolet
So I Just downloaded and fired up the musicbrainz vbox vm
2017-07-08 18913, 2017
cjnolet
After running the docker comand recommended in the install docs, I was able to hit port 5000 but the server on port 8080 didn't seem to start
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cjnolet
and I'm not sure what to do / how to get it to start
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cjnolet
I tried the reindex command, no joy
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cjnolet
the psql command on port 5432 doesn't seem to work either
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alastairp
cjnolet: hi. what's your issue with psql? where are you running the psql command?
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cjnolet
So last night I went through nightmares trying to get the musicbrainz server installed from source on a Fedora 24 machine. I think it came down to the version of perl being different so there were differences in the packages that were being installed
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cjnolet
so today, I broke down and downloaded the VM. I have it running in VBox on a mac pro
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cjnolet
Upon initially starting the VM, I had to run the "reset-containers" script to get the server on port 5000 to work
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cjnolet
I have it reindexing right now, it's taking awhile to do.
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cjnolet
I'm trying to build a metadata repository to do some machine learning research for a Ph.D program. I just need this to work, hehe
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alastairp
yeah, reindexing will take a while
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alastairp
remember, reindex is only needed if you want to do search
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alastairp
for example, I run a copy of the database, but with no index
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cjnolet
ah
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cjnolet
Yeah one of the things I'd like to be able to do is search
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alastairp
ok 👍
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cjnolet
I'm trying to mash up IDs from various different sites.
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Freso
cjnolet: Neat! For what, if I may ask?
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cjnolet
A lot of my research is geared towards crowd dynamics- trying to read and influence crowd behavior.
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Freso
(Cross-referencing by external IDs is one of the things I like to promote with MB, but I don't know too many people/projects that are actively doing it. :))
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Freso
cjnolet: Anything public?
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cjnolet
I've found a surprising amount of companies that have been doing it- but they are all proprietary solutions and they are all charging a ton of money!
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cjnolet
lol
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Freso
cjnolet: With MusicBrainz data specifically?
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Freso
And (primarily) based on actual IDs (rather than matching by similar (looking) strings etc.)?
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cjnolet
Fresno, at the moment, I don't have anything publicly to offer, no. I'm hoping that will change! There are some interesting things I'd like to do with soundcloud data but I'm going to need a streaming index like shezam to do it
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Freso ranted a bit about it in https://community.metabrainz.org/t/echo-nest-spotify-and-the-rosetta-api/49825/2?u=freso
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cjnolet
YES!
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cjnolet
Oh man. I saw this the other day! Kudos!
2017-07-08 18922, 2017
cjnolet
I'm a committer on a couple apache projects. I absolutely value open source. I'd love to try and see how my research / prototyping could help.
It would be really neat to be able to visualize people's taste profiles based on the common musicbrainz tags. I don't know if there's enough overlap with them
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cjnolet
but that would be realy neat. Like cluster portions of their tastes that seem to be describable with a subset of tags
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Freso
Well, I would say that what I tag = what I like/my taste.
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alastairp
except more people listen to music than tagging
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alastairp
it's almost like you'd need an archive of people's listening habits
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Freso
cjnolet: Are you familiar with AcousticBrainz and ListenBrainz?
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Freso
alastairp: If only there was an open one of those... :)
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alastairp
cjnolet: did you solve your access problems to psql?
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cjnolet
Freso: I've seen those listed in my research but Ihavn't dived into them yet. Are they different analytics bundles/companies?
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cjnolet
alastairp: Still waiting on the reindexing, lol
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cjnolet
29%
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Freso
cjnolet: They're both MetaBrainz projects too. :)
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cjnolet
Ah! So I had a girl Elizabeth reach out to me. I'm actually trying to get a startup off the ground as well and we're interested in commercial licensing for the metabrainz data too
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Freso
cjnolet: ListenBrainz is the open "archive of people's listening habits".
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cjnolet
Elizabeth Bigger is her name
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Freso
cjnolet: She goes by Quesito in here.
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cjnolet
ah gotcha! Dude.... this is what I love about irc, lol
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cjnolet
I've been an efnet junkie since 1997
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cjnolet
I'm actively ingesting the million song dataset
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Freso
And AcousticBrainz is the, well, open acoustic information database. :) alastairp is the lead of AcousticBrainz, so he probably has a much better "elevator quip" to introduce it. :p
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alastairp
we have more songs in acousticbrainz ;)
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Freso
AcousticBrainz is basically an alternation to 1M dataset.
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cjnolet
what do initial commercial licensing costs usually look like for a startup with very limited financial backing?
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alastairp
^ evelator pitch: "more than a million songs"
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Freso
Only with about 2.5M unique recordings.
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alastairp
cjnolet: we are very friendly
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alastairp
and understanding that startups don't have money
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Freso
cjnolet: No clue, but AFAIK it's reasonable. Quesito will know.
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cjnolet
We certainly want to pay our fair share, if our product succeeds.
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cjnolet
Ok
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Freso
Alternation? wat? alternative
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cjnolet
Wow, I can't believe I didn't dive into AcousticBrainz and ListenBrainz further while I was traveling around google this past week
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Freso
Compared to MB, AB and LB are both pretty young. :)
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Freso
(I mean, LB isn't even in beta yet.)
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cjnolet
"Normally start-ups spend vast amounts of money to create these data sets before building recommendation systems. We aim to short-cut this process and put the power to create recommendation engines into the hands of everyone. We plan to release the data under the CC0 License."
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cjnolet
You guys are great
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Freso
We try. :)
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cjnolet
Has anyone attempted anything with the ISNI dataset as of yet?
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cjnolet
(Reading your meeting notes from over a year ago)
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cjnolet
I've also been looking at linking ISRCs from Spotify to musicbrainz to see how many are there/missing
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Freso
cjnolet: No.
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Freso
(For whether anyone's done anything with the ISNI dump.)
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Freso
Huh. You actually do use "hobby horse" in English too. #TIL.
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CatQuest
weird. I just read about "hobby horse" two days ago .. :o
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CatQuest
also elizabeth isn't "a girl". she's our little cheese " Supporter Catalyst"
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CatQuest
:O
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CatQuest
:D
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cjnolet
lol
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cjnolet
The only correspondence I've done with her so far is getting an email after I created an account. Hopefully next week I can schedule a phone call.
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Freso
cjnolet: I'm glad you found our IRC channel either way. :) It bodes well for the relationship!
cjnolet: Note that alastairp and a lot of others MeB'ers are in Europe (a handful of us in Barcelona), and it's around midnight her (midnight CEST, so 11 PM in UK, IE, and Portugal, and 1 AM in Eastern Europe) - and it's weekend.
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Freso
I'm not sure alastairp checks IRC in his off hours, so any AB inquiries may not get answered until he's back in office on Monday.
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cjnolet
Ah, good point. I'm in Maryland, USA and it's only 6pm here, lol
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Freso
Oh, I guess he was around 1½ hour ago, so maybe he does sometime check IRC in off-hours. :)
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cjnolet
Thos genre annotations are wonderful. I'm trying to figure out how to secure a useful standard set of genres that are pretty well represented everywhere
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Freso
Good luck. :p
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Freso
alastairp and reosarevok, may have some thoughts on that.
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Freso
reosarevok is currently travelling though.
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psolanki
Is anyone around? Need help with CB docker tests
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cjnolet
Oh wow. So acousticbrainz has a lot of the audio features (and more) that the echo nest / spotify provide. This is so wonderful
