#metabrainz

damnit, I wanted a cow. are you sure about not bringing those?

-> apt-get moo

ruaok: hi, would you have a bit of time for paperwork today?

yes, perfect timing.

I could probably get it on the plane, but they might stop me at customs.

yvanzo: ping. see pm!

huh, just found this response to the initial survey tweet https://twitter.com/zoeblade/status/89722959677...

I am curious to know how many people replied with the same motivation.

Freso: I will put some notes in the comments if anything needs to be added from your catch ups of the meeting summaries, since you posted them already!

ruaok: when will https://beta.musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Se... upated with the new stuff? (:

once we hear that the VM is actually working.

let me tweet.

tweeted. see what happens.

VM is always a curious beast. when I have a new one, no one wants to test.

when I have no interest/time to work on the VM, everyone screams about it.

i can start it in my virtualbox, if you want to :D

sure. do pages load?

what happens on a reboot of the VM?

can you replicate? can in make indexes?

um :D

do i need to make a copy of the ova first? :p

not sure. in theory it should not modify it.

ruaok: Any objection to me creating a 'project board' on github to help me work towards another libmusicbrainz release?

Or would you prefer things like this are tracked through Jira?

Generally we track these things in Jira. But if you feel strongly about doing it in git...

Don't feel strongly either way really, hence the question :)

Just noticed project boards in github so wondered if that would be an easy way of doing it.

Will have a look how to achieve something similar in Jira.

adhawkins: We can create Scrum/Kanban boards in Jira, see https://tickets.metabrainz.org/projects/LMB/sum...

Quesito: Finally updated the wiki with dates :)

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Or is that because nothing has been created?

Just created a Scrum board at https://tickets.metabrainz.org/secure/RapidBoar...

yvanzo: Ok, thanks. Do items have to be real 'issues' to appear on there?

I think so, but I did not really use for now.

I have 20 or 30 'tasks' to complete to bring libmb up to synch with the current state of the web service, but it'd be overkill to create an issue for each of these..

^

There are currently 34 tasks I've made a note of. Seems overkill to create an issue for each of them? Happy to do it, but seems overkill to me...

Better make an issue too many than one too few.

Ok, I'll do that then.

wait, why not just change them from type task to type.. uh whatever it is

is task tickets not issues?

"Issue" and "ticket" are synonymous. "Issue" is GitHub terminology, "ticket" is Jira terminology.

right

but are task tickets not real tickets??

They are.

hmm

then I don't see the problem with tasks showing up on the thing adhawkins was making :)

:D

(I assumed that with the "task" entity was so quantified they were alreadt tickets :))

To clarify, these are some of the tasks I have written on a piece of paper as I work through them: "Add area-list to collection", "Add label-list to collection", "Add place-list to collection", "Add value-id attribute to work", "Add id attribute to gender on artist"

oh ho

then deff make tickets in jira

Some of them are relatively small pieces of work (adding an attribute to a particular element for example), but others are actually quite complete (adding area-list to collection also requires me to create an entity for 'area', as well as new entities for anything area contains that might be new, for example).

jira tickets cna have type "task" so...

(to me, "task" is much more an involved prices s than "new feature", but that's becasue i do instruments)

process, not prices

Ok. Presumably jira tasks / tickets can depend on others? E.g. I can't complete 'add area-list' until I complete 'add area element'...

oh yes

you cna link thme so

"x depends on y

adhawkins: Sounds perfect for tickets. :)

evnw "y blocks z"

Ok. I'll do some investigation then. Thanks for the advice, you learn something new every day :)

Means you can directly reference the specific tickets in any given commits as well.

yes

Ok, cheers. Thanks all.

also you can add the components to the ticket as well

Not sure if there's a GitHub/Jira link set up for libmb either, but then Jira could also automatically pick up and link to any relevant commits from the tickets.

Freso: How would that be arranged if it's not? libmb is a project under the metabrainz org on github

jwf: did you get my response to your independent studies email?

adhawkins: I can't remember.

Freso: Ah ok. Any way to check if it is in fact set up?

I don't know. :)

Handy :)

But probably.

Who's our Jira expert then? I hope it's not you ;)

I'll try and check later if I remember.

Well, I'm one of them!

Ok. Well, check if you remember and let me know. Then I'll do some reading on how to reference tickets in commits.

Freso: Yeah, I'm sure. libmb has been around for a while, so it may well already be in place.

ruaok / Freso: sent you an email for later, but hopefully I'll manage to be around, at least on my phone :)

reosarevok: 👍

(although if I'm on my phone I might still ask you to copy-paste the review for me :D )

how many years of uni are you up to now? 15? :)

shoosh

Only 8 by the time I'm done with this!

(the programming thing didn't count :p )

so this program is what, a week long?

Two years, but only a week of in-house classes per semester

will you be SMRT when you're done?

Probably not, I was born like this after all :p

ah, a terminal condition then.

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for ListenBrainz. I got extremely frustrated with Last.FM's api, and even started writing my own replacement, but this is even better than what I could've come up with lol

Kxze: :)

he'd love to get your help to make it better.

I'm kind of past my Python days but I'm taking a look at the issue track to see what I can do

one thing we could help if, if you're so inclined, is to add LB support to popular players. like VLC.

Sounds like a fun project. Is there any support for Android yet?

there is one client library. literally nothing else yet.

I see. I'm gonna look into making a Node wrapper for the API, just to see how everything works at the moment, then add support to the players I use

https://community.metabrainz.org/t/new-test-vm-... but I suspect that everyone here knows.

ruaok: Hey! I saw the email just now. Sorry for the late response, I was traveling during this last week and got home last night. I'll get back to you later today.

antlarr: o/

jwf|matrix: no rush. I was traveling too.

vlc lb support?

vlc lb support!

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in theory.