bitmap: is there something wrong with CAA ? cover art are not showing on the front page
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chhavi_
morning :)
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chhavi_
LordSputnik: sounds good to me too, will be happy to help! Only thing, I don't know what we will be working on. Can you help me get started a bit here.
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Freso
Leftmost: Send your GCI Google account mail to freso@meb.
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Freso
reosarevok: It wasn't really. I was actually thinking once in bed that SpamBrainz might be fine as an OTHER component for now, until it's a bit more of an actual project.
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samj1912
Good morning peeps o/
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Freso
samj1912: Moirning :) Tell chhavi_ that I'm around for poking/brain eating, whenever she's ready.
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Freso
Eh. Head eating.
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Freso
Oh, she's already written in here.
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Freso
chhavi_: I'm around for poking/head eating whenever you're ready. :p
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Freso might not be 100% awake and aware yet :)
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chhavi_
Helo Freso. In like 20 mins? Does that give you time to be a little more awake as well? :p
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Freso
chhavi_: Well, it'll give me more time, sure, but no promises. :)
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chhavi_
Freso: Let's do this?
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Freso
chhavi_: Alright!
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Freso
So, exactly what is it we're doing? :x
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chhavi_
So I made myself a JIRA account and looked into how presently our projects are being managed. Quite enlightening :)
I am thinking about status now. So typically (I am assuming) status of our design task could be : ideation, feedback, mockup. But it is more of a stage
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Freso
status == stage
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chhavi_
Status would be open, closed etc. I don't think we want to change that for now
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Freso
chhavi_: That's resolution.
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chhavi_
We basically need to indicate "needs feedback, needs mockup, front-end, back end" for a design task.
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chhavi_
How do we do that, whatever you say fits best!
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Freso
chhavi_: Some different statuses currently in the system: "open", "reopened", "in progress", "decision required"
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Freso
"decision required" is very close to "needs feedback" which is very close to "needs mockup".
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Freso
MBS-341 seems like an obvious thing to add to the Design component.
(Esp. if any of those other FOSS org.s are using Jira!)
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chhavi_
See how they are using needs feedback as a tag. Anyone needs any suggestion, big or small or doubts. Or doesn't know where to fit in a design task, uses it
chhavi_: Sure, but it's also GitHub issues, which have a very, very limited taxonomy.
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chhavi_
Yes I get it now :)
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Freso
Basically, they only have tags for describing issue status (beyond open/closed).
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Freso
Idk. Labels are also cheap AFAIK, so we might also just go all in on those.
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TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | Meeting agenda: reviews
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chhavi_
I just want a way to tag tickets saying if it just needs feedback in words, or will a mockup be required, or do we need to go in fix something in the front end or back end.
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chhavi_
Easier for me to delegate the tickets as well when I am through with it from my side.
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chhavi_
So if a design ticket shows up, we know what needs to be done with it next.
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Freso
Alright. I think I'd actually be fine with just lobbing most of it into the Labels.
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Freso
bitmap, yvanzo, samj1912, iliekcomputers: ^ any comments/caveats?
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chhavi_
yes so I think so too. For now, it should work fine!
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Freso
(Being the primary users of Jira, I don't want to go ahead with this if you expect it to severely impair your workflow. :))
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chhavi_
So should I just summarise?
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Freso
Sure.
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Freso
But let's hold on for a few hours to put it into effect to give our devs a chance to object. :)
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chhavi_
We make a "design" component. We have "UX, GUI, Branding" as labels. We also have "Needs Feedback, Needs Mockup, Needs Front-end changes, Needs Back-end changes" as labels. Though I am open to finding shorter labels for these!
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chhavi_
Freso: yes sure. :)
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chhavi_
ruaok: your thoughts on this too please :)
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iliekcomputers
Sounds
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iliekcomputers
Good to me
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iliekcomputers
Is there a way to add this to the work flow instead of using labels?
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Leftmost
It should be possible to create a special flow for UX tickets that allows "Needs Feedback", "Needs Mockup", etc. as additional steps in the process, but I'm not sure how involved that is or whether that's something you'd even want.
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Leftmost reads Param's mind.
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iliekcomputers
:)
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chhavi_
Freso: How do-able is what Leftmost is talking about? That would make our lives easier. workflow for "design tickets".
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Leftmost
We have that at work, but I've intentionally kept myself away from the inner workings of our Jira process, so I can't be too helpful.
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Freso
I don't think it's possible to make workflows for Components, only at the Project level.
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Freso
iliekcomputers, Leftmost, chhavi_: ^
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Leftmost
It can be at the project level, but there's some way that our UX tickets end up starting in a UX workflow loop before being pushed to devs. It may be a system whereby a ticket can be moved specifically into the UX parts which are earlier than the other steps.
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Leftmost
I can look at our Jira on Friday and see how it's done if that'd be useful.
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Freso
Sure, yeah, it's possible to put a UX loop into the main project workflow.
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iliekcomputers
doing it for every project might be a bit too much work in one go, but we could do it as design tickets come for each project?
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Freso
I don't think all projects need to a Design component either. E.g., BrainzUtils, FreeDB Gateway, Instrument Requests, Area Requests, etc.
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Freso
Hm.
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Freso
You can create workflows per-issue-type.
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Freso
So maybe we could make an issue type "Design" and make a workflow for that.
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iliekcomputers
that sounds ideal to me
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Freso
And tickets that require some design stuff could get dependent tickets made for them.
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Freso
chhavi_, samj1912, bitmap, yvanzo, ruaok ^ does that sound reasonable to you?
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samj1912
I think having a workflow to manage things would be much better than labels. yes
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Freso
Alright. I'll wait for at least yvanzo and bitmap to also chime in before changing anything, but this does seem like it might be a viable option.
Dangit. The French are striking and delaying my flight back to BCN. *shakes fist at zas and yvanzo*
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yvanzo
So that you will have time to visit us, it is not striking, it is promoting local tourism ;)
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Freso
^ 👍
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Leftmost
I'm not even in France! :P
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Leftmost
I'm in Amsterdam.
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yvanzo
Do you have another flight at least?
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Leftmost
They haven't cancelled, just delayed, so not too bad. It's a good thing I left a night between my flight to BCN and my flight out of BCN. :P
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yvanzo
Freso, bitmap: UX is probably a decent opportunity to start using epic and story ticket types.
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LordSputnik
ruaok, zas: BookBrainz Google cloud server seems to be unavailable. May have crashed... would be very grateful if either of you are able to poke it alive :)
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LordSputnik
It's been a few months now without an actual server crash, I wonder what went wrong...
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reosarevok
MajorLurker: thanks for helping the BBC artist! :)
