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      • gcilou
        Happy Halloween the best day of the year
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      • SothoTalker_
        totally
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      • CatQuest
        all Hallow Eve and wicked Samhain! 🐈 
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      • ferbncode_
        happy halloween everyone
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      • ferbncode_
        anshuman73: Hi o/, about CB-231, after this PR (https://github.com/metabrainz/critiquebrainz/pull…) gets merged, removing the old code is the only task remaining
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      • BrainzBot
        CB-231: Get data from MusicBrainz database directly instead of the WS https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/CB-231
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      • jwf|matrix
        Anyone know a way to help this person with their ListenBrainz development environment? https://blog.justinwflory.com/2017/10/listenbrain…
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      • anshuman73
        ferbncode_: hmm, can they be used GCI tasks ? We could probably have a set of clean-up tasks for each of the views blueprints
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      • ferbncode_
        anshuman73: yes, certainly, cleaning code using musicbrainzngs would be good for GCI tasks
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      • anshuman73
        yeah, can you link me any example of a place needing cleanup ?
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      • anshuman73
        also, what's stopping the merge of the PR ?
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      • ferbncode_
        anshuman73: https://github.com/metabrainz/critiquebrainz/blob… (most of the code here, except the search functions)
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      • anshuman73
        ferbncode_: thanks !
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      • ferbncode_
        yeah, I will ask alastairp for reviewing the PR. I opened it for a separate issue and later changed the title, so probably we missed it out
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      • ferbncode_
        alastairp: sure, np
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      • ferbncode_
        :)
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      • ferbncode_
        anshuman73: ^
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      • ferbncode_ should really use the tab key properly šŸ˜…
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      • Freso
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      • samj1912
        bitmap: ruaok let me know when you guys want to discuss search server schema
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      • bitmap
        samj1912: I'm around for a few hours. do you have an idea of the issues you want to address?
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      • bitmap
        maybe we should start with a doc to narrow down what we want to decide?
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      • samj1912
        Yes
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      • samj1912
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      • samj1912
        bitmap ruaok ^
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      • samj1912
        For starters
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      • samj1912
        Very broad questions
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      • samj1912
        Let me know if we want to narrow it down.
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      • samj1912
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      • samj1912
        Everything is completed now though
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      • samj1912
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      • samj1912
        bitmap we can add comments for longer discussions and we can write the final answers/decisions on the doc?
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      • bitmap
        that sounds fine
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      • bitmap
        what's nC2?
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      • samj1912
        All the paired combinations
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      • bitmap
        oh, choose. nvm
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      • samj1912
        0 cardinality means 1:N? Or 1:1?
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      • samj1912
        Oh nvm
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      • samj1912
        Found it
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      • bitmap
        the way we use it, it means there are fewer relationships on that side
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      • samj1912
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      • samj1912
        Ohk
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      • bitmap
        e.g. l_artist_work for an arranger relationship, the entity1 cardinality would be 0 and the entity0 cardinality would be 1
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      • bitmap
        because an artist may have arranged many works but a work would only have one or few arrangers
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      • samj1912
        So 1:M rels?
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      • samj1912
        Or somewhere close
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      • bitmap
        close enough
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      • bitmap
        both sides are unbounded but it's based on what we expect
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      • samj1912
        Cool
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      • bitmap
        we only use this for display
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      • samj1912
        But we index everything?
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      • bitmap
        in the current search server? I have no idea
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      • bitmap
        I'd expect not
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      • samj1912
        In our plan for solr
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      • samj1912
        In the current search server very few fields are indexed
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      • samj1912
        We should figure out a common field schema and representation for all rels
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      • samj1912
        So lets say artist rels are displayed in the same way for release and recordings (does that make sense?)
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      • bitmap
        to display them, don't they have to be in a document, i.e. indexed? I guess I don't understand why they'd be different
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      • samj1912
        We display them in a slightly different way
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      • samj1912
        We construct a _store variable that we store the xml to be displayed in
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      • samj1912
        And then we index the _store field (however it's not meant to be searched) we then convert the xml to a Java object and then marshall it back to xml or json appropriately
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      • samj1912
        So its not necessary to have all the displayed fields searchable (which is the reason we have extra_paths arg in the schema for sir entities)
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      • bitmap
        ok, I guess I was confused on the terminology (they are indexed but not searchable)
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      • samj1912
        Yeah sorry, I will fix that
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      • bitmap
        are the only relationship fields that are actually searchable currently on the url entity?
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      • samj1912
        No, there are others too
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      • samj1912
        They are listed in the schema file for sir i linked above
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      • samj1912
        Eg release types in recordings
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      • samj1912
        And mbids/names of related entities
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      • bitmap
        by relationship I specifically mean from the l_ tables
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      • bitmap
        I thought that's what we were talking about
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      • samj1912
        Oh, I meant general foreign key relationships
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      • samj1912
        I guess from L tables we have places and areas for events
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      • bitmap
        so rels == fks in this entire doc? that wasn't clear at all :)
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      • samj1912
        Yes :p
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      • bitmap
        sorry, 'relationship' has a very specific meaning in mb
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      • samj1912
        Uh yes let me fix that
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      • samj1912
        bitmap: is that better?
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      • bitmap
        we don't need to decide what is indexed, I thought? just what is displayed and what is searchable
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      • samj1912
        Fixed terminology
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      • samj1912
        Sorry if this was confusing šŸ˜…
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      • bitmap
        "Which fields of a foreign key constrained entity should we display" <- that's a bit confusing too, but I assume you are just talking about top-level entities, outside of relationships
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      • bitmap
        or do you mean thinks like the artist area
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      • bitmap
        things*
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: "Re: Please verify your email address" is in German, in case you feel like German-ing
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      • bitmap
        i.e. entities linked directly to other entities outside of relationships
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      • reosarevok
        (otherwise I'll just answer in English)
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      • bitmap
        artist area, release label, track recordings, etc., as distinguished from the top-level entities for the requested resource?
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      • reosarevok
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: I already linked him. :)
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      • reosarevok
        Ok
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      • bitmap
        this document might be better with specific examples: should we display field x inside element (path) y in request z, and should it be searchable?
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      • samj1912
        Yes
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      • samj1912
        I will fix it up tomorrow morning then
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      • samj1912
        It's late here, good night
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      • bitmap
        thanks, sleep well
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      • ruaok german-ings it
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      • SothoTalker_
        yes, germanize everyone \o/
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      • gcilou
        there's a kid dressed up as forest gump running around campus and everytime he passes my window, he has a larger group of people running after him
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      • gcilou
        Halloween is great
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      • SothoTalker_
        totally
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      • SothoTalker_
        but maybe he is just a thief and followed by an angry mob trying to get their goods back :D
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      • github
        [listenbrainz-server] paramsingh opened pull request #284: LB-206: Show playing_now submissions on user page (production...now-playing) https://git.io/vFYHc
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