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right

so again.. why do they need a different symbol ?

How else would you distinguish them from +s and -s?

I mean, this would pretty much mirror MB votes: yes, no, abstain, no vote

ruaok: Not right now, sorry about ping. :)

in your case yo uand i would be +, reo would be - and ruaok and bitmap and yvanzo would have blank/* or whatever

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Leo_Verto: yes!

HSOWA: Yes, so "+Freso, CC -reo *r_uaok, b_itmap, y_vanzo"

(and no vote is explisit by not beign isn the list /noth having voted.. or no?)

Implicit, but yes.

you mean +freso +cc -reo *riu * bit *yvan

yes

it looks like i have a different vote than you in your example, sorry your format is confusing

Maybe for the vote results spelling out the votes could also work?

"2+: Freso, CC; 1-: reo; 3*: r_uaok, b_itmap, y_vanzo" per naiveai's latest proposal.

that's what I was saying

i.e. Yes: Freso, CC [new line] No: reo [new line] Abstain: ...

"for "against" and "abstain" are not that many glyps honestly

Leo_Verto: I like that :D

but Freso's right, the counts are crucial

it include a number :)

2 for: so and so (newline) 3 agaisnt: so and so etc

[+3: Freso, reo, chhavi] [-2: sam, yvanzo] [/1: ruoak]

nice!

Sorry to barge in, couldn't stop myself!

chhavi_: ❤️

I like that way more than newlines.

not at all, I like it!

well I don't mind newlines

And as Freso said. !startvote !countvote !endvote

it can be clearer, especially if we have more than 3-4 people per vote

like chhavi's format thoguh :)

and the use of / for abstain

this is why it's so great to finally have an UX person around, even if it's for such simple stuff <3

And for voting , "+1" for, "-1" against, "/1" neutral

hehe, glad could help :)

+1 :D

/1 might be a problem though, IRC clients tend to use / for commands

we should officially hire chhavi_

srsly

hmm

\1 then? :D

like I just got "unrecognized command" when I tried to write that line without a leading space

Hmm.. Leo_Verto what else can we use? how about |

i'd agree with anything but * honestly as * to means "i've got a point/issue/apropos about this"

harder to type

maybe % as in no answer?

also we should avoid ! or ? as those are commands/have specific meaning

hmmm

"1/1 for neutral"

now we're over thinknig it again

clearly we need to do some A/B testing :P

Yeah should we try "\1" for neutral as of now? We can see if it is much trouble to a lot of people?

yeah, won't be too hard to change anyways

yep

+ - and \ works for me ;D

Cool. So let me sum up here for naiveai.

"+1" for, "-1" against, "\1" neutral

!startvote !countvote !endvote

anyway we should have a formal vote (using the bot?!) lter anyway :D

[+3: Freso, reo, chhavi] [-2: sam, yvanzo] [/1: ruoak]

See naiveai we decided :D

countvote or showvote?

:P

I still'd like to point out that 6< names should be on a new line regardless.. but

we can test it and see how it works either way!

HSOWA: let me get back to you. I will have to "OVERTHINK" it through. :p

chhavi_: oh also that a set time in addition to !endvote

:P

maybe overthinknig it through and then going back to simplicitly is a good work way :V

eh, I'd say the timeout should be a config option maybe set to 10 minutes for a start

(i don't have a finger under chin pondering emoji handy)

a bit more than 10, we do'nt want it to time out while we're voting

ideally the vote should be !endvote'd, and a timeout be a precautiong against someone forgetting and 2 hoursl ater people saying +1 to something completely unrelated

I have a doubt. Person who starts the vote, only has the option to end it right?

but when would we vote for more than 10 minutes? usually the voting starts after the discussion and is pretty quickly

hmmm

good point

chhavi_: anyone can end it :D

and yes maybe that chhavi_

yea..

yea incase someoen gets logged out and what not

we're fairly good natured here. i don't forcee that someone would sabotage a vote by ending it prematurely

maybe accidentally by missunderstanding.. but

Then we have greater chances of blunder here I feel. I think the reason this discussion is running into blocks is, we don't have scenarios (use cases) in head

that could just as well happen to the initiall votestarter

if someone decides to troll like that, just kick them and start a new vote

Or someone voting for the wrong poll, not knowing someone ended it already.

chhavi_: didn't we just have an impromptu vote about what to use as vote symbols? :p

exactly

another situation might be that someone else starts the vote and Freso wants to end it at a certain point

it's easy and common not to have a poll too clsoe to another

yep

do we need a command for withdrawing votes?

or should people just override them with an abstain?

Your last vote, if different, overwrites the previous?

did naiveai open a ticket somewhere? we should put all this in one place.

override then with a nother vote automaticall i think

he had agithub thingy

maybe we shoud lmake a ticket on jira for this

Yeah we should. easier for everyone to give feedback

HSOWA: should I?

yep!

How do we attach chatlogs for reference? 🙈

link them :o

rhm.. go on the chatslogs and then on the gray timestam in the rightmost they are links use that

aaah, okay. thankks!

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naiveai: Leo_Verto Freso https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9602

MBS-9602: Brainzbot Plugin for Counting Votes.

That should be an OTHER ticket

Ohh I will change it.

OTHER-321: Brainzbot Plugin for Counting Votes.

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