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      • CatQuest
        :D
      • Kapish_
        xD
      • CatQuest
        it's just this: Gratulerer"
      • Kapish_
        jinx
      • CatQuest
        that's enough :)
      • it's 19:00 here :)
      • Kapish_
        22:30 here
      • CatQuest
        and i need ot make my borhday dinner. a treat for myself. and if i make it myself i cna save money and get it just the way i liek it
      • Rotab
        o_O
      • where are you CatQuest?
      • CatQuest
        birthday*
      • norway jo
      • thefar8[m]
        bye for now
      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: isn't it 18?
      • CatQuest
        bye! \o
      • Rotab
        yeah, it should be 18 :P
      • CatQuest
        i am not observing daylight stupid time :D
      • and soon. so will noone else ♡
      • Rotab
        but thats what you are?
      • 18 is normal time
      • CatQuest
        whatever it's my birthday!
      • Rotab
        haha
      • 🎂
      • CatQuest
        (also if i go the normal time i'll be late for everything during summer :|)
      • yay!
      • Kapish_
        reosarevok got one -> Express Rip
      • reosarevok
        Seems fine, although no idea if it uses the FreeDB gateway or not :) But yeah, https://www.nch.com.au/rip/screenshots.html specifically shows MusicBrainz
      • Kapish_
        freso told me that The FreeDB gateway will cease existing some months from now
      • so any services relying solely on that for MB data are not really applicable for this list
      • hence i was told to replace EasyTag
      • can i add Express Rip?
      • reosarevok
        Well, as I said, I dunno if it uses the FreeDB gateway :)
      • Freso: are you around?
      • yvanzo
        CatQuest: Sorry for having been familiar, that was friendly still.
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      • rdswift
        Kapish_, reosarevok: ExpressRip appears to be currently maintained and updated (and commercial?), so I'd trust that it would be updated if it broke because the FreeDB gateway was discontinued. My opinion is that it should be okay to use as one of the two required for the task.
      • reosarevok
        Then what rdswift said :)
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: About MBS-8932, is there any other type of IA content (score, libretto, …) that can be attached to work?
      • BrainzBot
        MBS-8932: please enable lyrics links to archive.org https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-8932
      • reosarevok
        Well, the one example is a libretto :D
      • And I'd expect scores to be up there too, yes
      • yvanzo
        We don't have relationship type for libretto by the way.
      • (I mean URL relationship type)
      • reosarevok
        Sure. I mean, effectively those are lyrics, so I think linking as lyrics is mostly fine
      • Kapish_
        rdswift okay
      • reosarevok
        It's not a very common one
      • yvanzo
        The issue is that we can currently allow for either score or lyrics, not both.
      • Should we favour one over the other, or just wait for MBS-9902?
      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9902: Support auto-select/cleanup/validation of more than one relationship type for external links https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9902
      • yvanzo
        (score is currently allowed, since this relationship type doesn't depend on whitelist)
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      • Kapish_
        rdswift i have added TigoTago and Express Rip. Can you check it
      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: can't you allow without autoselect?
      • yvanzo
        not sure, will check
      • Kapish_
        reosarevok i wanted to ask you, what is the meaning of Style Leader
      • reosarevok
        I dress very well
      • (no, not really)
      • Kapish_
        is this something related to MB?
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: no, sorry
      • reosarevok
        "Style" is all the rules and guidelines on how to add stuff to MB: https://beta.musicbrainz.org/doc/Style
      • yvanzo: then I guess it should wait
      • Kapish_
        oh
      • reosarevok
        "Leader" means I'm the one who decides if one should be changed or added and stuff like that :)
      • Kapish_
        so you are incharge of that
      • that's great
      • rdswift
        Kapish_: LGTM. Please update https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Enable... and submit the task.
      • Kapish_
        okay
      • yvanzo
        Ok for linking to the prerequisite issue and blocking itF.
      • Kapish_
        rdswift i will complete designing the t-shirt tomorrow, shall i mail it to you once it is done?
      • reosarevok
        Kapish_: you should talk to chhavi_ about that one :)
      • Especially if you want to mail an actual physical drawing (she's also in India, meaning it's probably easier / cheaper)
      • If you want to just scan it or take photos then it's easier :)
      • rdswift
        I suggest posting it on something like imagur and leaving a link here. Chhavi would also be interested.
      • Kapish_
        i meant an email
      • :)
      • rdswift
        Oops, I see reosarevok beat me to it. He obviously types faster than I do. :-)
      • reosarevok
        Oh, ok! :) I wasn't fully sure
      • That you could put up somewhere and share as rdswift said :)
      • Kapish_
        okay i will :)
      • rdswift, task submitted
      • reosarevok, this is really cool -> "I'm not very stylish but I deal with Style.". How did you come up with it?
      • reosarevok
        I come up with random crap all the time :p
      • rdswift
        Kapish_: Approved. Thanks.
      • Kapish_
        reosarevok i wanted to ask you some things about MB.
      • reosarevok
        Sure
      • Kapish_
        rdswift Thank you :)
      • MB is obviously open source
      • so if any other 3rd party software uses MB, picard etc. then can do so for free
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: Could I help with MBS-9400? IIUC, you have plans for it already?
      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9400: tags are missing from the artist node in release request for json api https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9400
      • Kapish_
        so how does MB get sufficient funding?
      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve... is the same ticket pretty much
      • Kapish_
        cause i did some research and i saw that MB's expenses are more than its revenue
      • reosarevok
        Kapish_: https://metabrainz.org/finances/ :) Normally we spend less than we get
      • Kapish_
        oh
      • i will look it up
      • reosarevok
        (not always, but :) )
      • We get some donations, but mostly we get support from data users
      • Kapish_
        Oh!
      • so these companies fund you
      • as a way of saying thank you because they use your data
      • reosarevok
        Pretty much
      • I mean, we suggest they do :p
      • But if they don't want to, they don't really need to, in most cases. The data is free, but we provide a few services on top
      • (for example, automatic updates if they have their own copy of the database)
      • Kapish_
        wow this is interesting
      • i really didnt know how such companies run
      • thanks to code-in i am learning a lot :D
      • btw reosarevok How much do our tasks (as students) help you with the database?
      • i mean the research i do and the style i use is nothing compared to what you professionals do.
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      • Hi c1e0
      • c1e0
        Hi Kapish_ . I'm impressed by how active you are here. You seem to be always available. :)
      • reosarevok
        Kapish_: depends :) The tasks are mostly to help people understand how MB works (so that you understand that it's possible to not lose money with open source is probably more useful than adding one or two artists! :) )
      • But at the same time, we have very mediocre coverage of Indian music, for example, so Code-In info from India is usually useful
      • Same for everywhere outside of Europe and America, really
      • (ok, I guess we have a fair amount of Japanese things)
      • And things like researching instruments are useful, because they save CatQuest a lot of time :D
      • Kapish_
        c1e0 Most of my study material is sent to me by mail and my enterance examinations start in a month so i am online almost 7 to 8 hours a day and when i am not studying, i am over here :D
      • so the main idea of code in is to educate the youth about open source?
      • reosarevok
        Yup :)
      • "Google's contest introducing 13-17 year old pre-university students to open source software development." is how Google describes it
      • We like that it's not only about coding, but also allows people who aren't hardcore coders to understand open knowledge a bit more :)
      • (I'm also with Wikimedia Eesti, which is the Estonian organization that helps support the Estonian language Wikipedia and other similar projects, so open knowledge is a big thing for me :D )
      • Kapish_
        yeah i read that in your profile
      • reosarevok
        Oh, forgot I mentioned that there :D
      • Kapish_
        yeah you just mentioned wiki Esti
      • so i googled it
      • reosarevok
        Oh, ok :)
      • I haven't meet anyone from http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Home but I'm sure they're nice :)
      • Kapish_
        have you travelled outside of estonia?
      • reosarevok
        I'm from Spain, so yeah :D
      • (I just live here)
      • But not really much outside of Europe
      • Went to the US once, but that's it
      • Kapish_
        so why did you settle in estonia?
      • reosarevok
        I dunno :D I just wanted to leave Spain at some point and travel around, but I came here as the first stay and I liked it and didn't go further
      • I guess I'm lazy :p
      • Kapish_
        i would say you are daring
      • leaving ones homeland and going into an unknown place requires a lot of guts
      • i wouldnt even leave my house xD
      • reosarevok
        Haha. Well, this is still the European Union, so I didn't need a visa or anything, and if everything goes wrong I can cheaply fly back to Spain :)