#metabrainz

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      • yvanzo
        Good evening everyone!
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      • zas
        new timezone ?
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      • amCap1712
        hi gr0uch0mars
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      • gr0uch0mars
        hi amCap1712
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      • amCap1712
        i updated the proposal, addressing all your concerns
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      • gr0uch0mars
        great. I'll read it right now
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      • amCap1712
        can you take a look again, i have added 7 days to picard
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      • amCap1712
        and asked zas and outsidecontext to let me know what they think about it
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      • amCap1712
        so that leaves us with 5 weeks for picard, half of gsoc almost
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      • yvanzo
        zas: AFT+1 it is, make sure you reach meeting in time.
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      • amCap1712
        gr0uch0mars: so my plan is to finish up everything else by the week just after first eval
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      • amCap1712
        between the first and second eval, do the gui and most of work on picard
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      • amCap1712
        and tie up the loose ends after second eval
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      • gr0uch0mars
        great, the review looks good to me
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      • gr0uch0mars
        And the schedule seems realistic
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      • gr0uch0mars
        Do you remember I had a trip between the second and last evaluations? (When you'll be developing Picard and polishing things)
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      • amCap1712
        yup
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      • gr0uch0mars
        Great. I don't know if I'll be of much help regarding Picard implementation, so it's good to hear that you have other people helping you .)
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      • amCap1712
        i guess it'll be enough if you could be available for 2-3 hours during those weeks
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      • amCap1712
        gr0uch0mars: but the way i have an important exam on 10th april, so i'll be not be working on that. during this week, i'll prepare the final proposal only. I'll restart the work on the app from 11th onwards.
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      • amCap1712
        i plan to finfish up all details info page before gsoc begins
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      • gr0uch0mars
        Yes, I'll try to be as much as I can!
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      • amCap1712
        great
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      • gr0uch0mars
        I'll work on basic designs to have all the app workflow so we don't miss anything
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      • amCap1712
        we still have 45 days before gsoc
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      • amCap1712
        yeah great
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      • amCap1712
        i'll be free to work during 20-25 of those. we can do much work at that time.
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      • gr0uch0mars
        great then
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      • gr0uch0mars
        this week is for Artist page, right?
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      • amCap1712
        yeah, but everything is postponed to 11th onwards as I said
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      • gr0uch0mars
        oh, I didn't know that (I need my ☕ )
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      • CatQuest
        ruaok, reosarevok: ooohhh that's cool!
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      • CatQuest will try out mapillary!
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      • CatQuest
        I mean i go all over the palce on pokemongoing and stuff so I can map unusual palces, probably idk
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      • CatQuest also now finally after reading the article and replying got the "map - illary" thing
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      • pristine__
        CatQuest: hi
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      • CatQuest
        pristine__: yo
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      • pristine__
        I like the word 'yo' 😆
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      • pristine__
        Howz you?
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      • CatQuest
        awakening
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      • CatQuest
        pristine__: do indians do april fools?
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      • pristine__
        CatQuest: yeah. why not
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      • CatQuest
        I mean. if you're familiar with it because it's done in .in since people in the chan and elsewhere onlien today may try to trick you and be silly
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      • CatQuest
        never believe anything you read the 1st of april online 😆
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      • bluefantail
        Hi all :)
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      • bluefantail
        Wondering if there's anything I can / should do to help with the review / discussion / merge of https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server… ?
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      • bluefantail
        Not sure if I need to do anything more, or if things just get batched up / looked over at certain times etc :)
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      • bluefantail
        Read most of the contribution guidelines and think I've mostly been on track - hopefully anyway (let me know if not)!
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      • ruaok
        bluefantail: it not you, its us.
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      • ruaok
        we've been working so hard on the LB features recently we're all doing something else for a bit.
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      • ruaok
        that said...
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      • ruaok prods iliekcomputers
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      • bluefantail
        Haha - no problem!
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      • bluefantail
        Just checking in
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      • bluefantail
        I mean if you ever need a hand with anything ..
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      • ruaok
        are you generally interested in helping with LB?
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      • bluefantail
        I'm free occasionally around work :P
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      • ruaok
        we're always keen to get more help.
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      • Mr_Monkey
        New article posted on the blog
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      • bluefantail
        I've been interested in the whole metabrainz thing from a distance for a while - just been keeping an eye on things
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      • bluefantail
        trying to understand goals better etc
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      • ruaok
        Mr_Monkey: already shared on my FB. I'm happy that we finally got *THAT* releasesed. so much work!
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      • bluefantail
        I think it's pretty cool / we're severly lacking projects like this
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      • ruaok
        bluefantail: like most open source projects, our goal is total world domination. what else is there? :-p
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      • bluefantail
        And this is the only one I know that looks like it could really bring good to the whole music discovery / and open media DB sort of landscape
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      • ruaok
        yes, agreed.
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      • ruaok
        the goal that I am keen on is to get a recommendation engine working.
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      • bluefantail
        So you might have seen my poking at a few things on the discourse just trying to understand more :)
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      • ruaok
        I feel that a lot of recommendation engines are just shilling to sell more major label content.
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      • ruaok
        and there are no open source recommendation engines -- our goal is to change that.
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      • bluefantail
        And yeah I kinda got interested in the LB API first, and then was slightly disapointed when I couldn't query the API from a browser XD
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      • pristine__
        ruaok: hey. So instead of saving and loading the trained model, I directly passed it to recommend.py and guess what it worked. Recommendations are being generated for the users. So we know that the problem is in saving the model.
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      • pristine__
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      • pristine__
        This may be the possible reason. Not sure though.
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      • ruaok
        pristine__: oh, interesting.
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      • pristine__
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      • pristine__
        especially this.
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      • ruaok
        pristine__: so HDFS then?
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      • pristine__
        I saved the model in hdfs. but the parquet files are not getting saved but just the SUCCESS files.
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      • ruaok
        something I am musing about, wondering if OSS people can change the music industry
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      • pristine__
        Idk why :(
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      • ruaok
        iliekcomputers: zas: yvanzo: Freso: Mr_Monkey: invoices please!
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      • pristine__
        Spark just blows my mind away. lol. would have to figure out why it isn't getting saved
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      • bluefantail
        ruaok: Haha - yeah fair enough. Yeah I gave my data to last.fm and google for years, and only in the last few did I realise it'd never occured to me what if I could own that data and ship it around to get reccomendations out of different services, or indeed if everyone's could be used to improve everyone's recomendations generally.
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      • ruaok
        yep, all that.
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      • reosarevok
        Freso, ruaok: can you think of a good tweet for our newest MB development we just blogged about?
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      • reosarevok has slept like 3 hours and his brain is not working
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      • ruaok
        I can have a look when I pull my head out of accounting
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      • pristine__
        ruaok: there is one user for which recommendations is an empty list. We should have top hits or something to recommend to such users
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      • ruaok
        do you have a recommendation for me?? I'd love to see that.
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      • alastairp
        hi, good morning
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      • alastairp
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      • alastairp
        here's some interesting work that we're doing...
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      • alastairp
        (huge dimension PDF, zoom in and have a look around)
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      • alastairp
        it represents the "similarity" of genre labels from different places, based on the cooccurrence of these labels being applied to the same MB recording
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      • alastairp
        e.g. if all recordings that have label x from lastfm also have label y from discogs, we say that x and y are very similar
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      • alastairp
        there are some really great clusters being built up here
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      • aidanlw17
        alastairp: that's interesting! I'm working on my gsoc proposal which is related to some of the recording similarity tasks with annoy
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      • aidanlw17
        do you think that the clusters of genre labels could be incorporated into the distance calculations for similarity?
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      • Mr_Monkey
        That's really good alastairp! There's some interesting clustering too like new-age being quite close to opera, and modern jazz clumped with soundtrack & ost.
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      • Mr_Monkey thinks of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2rVnRwW0h8
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      • alastairp
        Mr_Monkey: the next thing we should do with this data is actually look at the examples which are causing these clusters to form
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      • alastairp
        is it because of folksonomy tags (last.fm, tagtraum), which therefore means that people don't know what they're talking about?
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      • alastairp
        or is it because we don't have many example recordings tagged with those items, causing the few annotations that we have to build clusters when they don't really make sense?
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      • ruaok
        hmm. paying people on april 1. I should pay everyone in INR today, I think. except our indian team members. they get paid in EUR. yeah. :) :)
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      • alastairp
        aidanlw17: yeah, in the future something like this could be used for similarity, however the similarity task that we want to work on for SoC should be focused only on content-based similarity for now
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: "We’re about to launch our most ambitious change to our editing system since basically forever! Read the blog post to learn what’s happening! https://link-to-blog #opensource #ai" ?
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      • alastairp
        Mr_Monkey: although, check out the graph a bit more carefully.... opera/new age are next to each other, but if you back-track the lines then they're a part of two distinct clusters
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      • alastairp
        the vertical lines mark the similarity
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      • alastairp
        perhaps I should look into seeing if we can draw a line between labels that are part of separate clusters
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      • Mr_Monkey
        Well, I suppose I was talking about the similarity between the new-age cluster and the classical cluster
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      • Freso
        reosarevok, ruaok: Also, re: Mapillary: https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/freso :x – the app works fairly well, but is a huge battery drainer (as would be expected)
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      • alastairp
        yeah. I suspect that could be down to people naming everything that has violins in it as "classical" too, though :-P
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      • aidanlw17
        alastairp: thanks, noted. I'm mainly focusing on replicating https://zenodo.org/record/1479769#.XKHk1OtKgp9 and building an index after experimenting with it.
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      • pristine__
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      • pristine__
        ruaok: ^^
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      • ruaok
        thanks, but... what are those MBIDs? they are not recording ids:
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      • ruaok
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      • Freso
        If they're from Last.fm they're Track MBIDs.
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      • Freso
        But apparently not.
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      • pristine__
        ruaok: These are MSIDs
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      • ruaok
        oh, I see.
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      • ruaok
        hard to work with.
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      • pristine__
        did you like the recommendations?
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      • ruaok
        could you do me a favor and write a script that takes this info and then cross references it with messybrainz and outputs nice readable artist/recording names and ids?
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      • ruaok
        I have no idea! I've not been able to look them up!
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      • pristine__
        ruaok: Okay. I will :)
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