bitmap, yvanzo: huh, didn't get any notifications on the phone...
2020-06-25 17741, 2020
reosarevok
(we were painting some ceiling)
2020-06-25 17707, 2020
reosarevok
Removing the edit associations might be good, but I'm not sure how easy it will be to find them
2020-06-25 17739, 2020
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | GSoC students start here: https://bit.ly/2NUaxgb | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Meeting agenda: Reviews, LB Dashboard Feedback (Mr_Monkey, shivam-kapila), STYLE-724 (reosarevok)
2020-06-25 17715, 2020
reosarevok
yvanzo, bitmap: is MBS-10908 something we should push to prod to make people's lives easier? Or I guess since it's only a few more days it's not that big a deal?
[listenbrainz-server] ishaanshah opened pull request #931 (master…all_time_listening_activity): Improve query for all time "Listening Activity" statsistics https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
2020-06-25 17749, 2020
yvanzo
hi reosarevok: It doesn’t seem to be a big deal. Do you think existing edits should be removed from unrelated edit histories (after next release)?
all of the changes that you made are compatible with both python 2 and python 3, so it's not necessary to change them
2020-06-25 17741, 2020
alastairp
however, I suggested that you made a new branch because if you change the python version in that current branch that you have, it will update the pull request
uhm, it took a day longer because of St. Joan's day. so, actually slow.
2020-06-25 17729, 2020
alastairp
haha
2020-06-25 17755, 2020
alastairp
meanwhile, the same evening I emailed a bunch of keystone resellers in spain asking if they do individual pieces
2020-06-25 17712, 2020
ruaok
next day service for parts is pretty critical if you're starting a electronics company. trust me.
2020-06-25 17725, 2020
alastairp
"no, we only sell in units of 100, but we could send you a few engineering samples if it was for a 'company'"
2020-06-25 17725, 2020
ruaok
any responses yet?
2020-06-25 17742, 2020
alastairp
1 of 3 replied, it was nice of them to offer to send me a few
2020-06-25 17722, 2020
ruaok
yeah, I try to avoid doing business with spanish companies. it seems, on the whole, they would prefer to do.... something else other than serve customers.
2020-06-25 17750, 2020
alastairp
he was nice enough also to say "keystone sends us surveys asking how many units people often buy, so we'll pass along to them that you wanted just a few"
2020-06-25 17739, 2020
ruaok
when you try to use the tme.eu site, I can give you some tips -- they do some odd things, but once you get past it it works fine.
2020-06-25 17742, 2020
alastairp
though I feel like the quantity requirements are set by the reseller, since tme, digikey, mouser, etc have no problem selling them individually
2020-06-25 17704, 2020
alastairp
thanks, I'll ask if I have trouble next time I use it
2020-06-25 17717, 2020
ruaok
and, I use their stock levels to decide if i am buying the right parts. no stock, I'm likely picking the wrong parts. good stock, available parts, cheap prices.
2020-06-25 17726, 2020
jmp_music
alastairp: Good morning! Yeah, I just did this. `libeigen3-dev` should be installed too?
2020-06-25 17704, 2020
alastairp
jmp_music: yes
2020-06-25 17718, 2020
ruaok
alastairp: do you know a manufacturer who makes good esp32 boards? mind already died on me with the USB port no longer showing up.
2020-06-25 17721, 2020
alastairp
ruaok: sorry, no. I don't have any of those boards. We're using a Weymos D1 mini
2020-06-25 17745, 2020
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2020-06-25 17746, 2020
ruaok
yea, I bought some generics of the D1 and they suuuuck.
2020-06-25 17708, 2020
alastairp
oh damn
2020-06-25 17710, 2020
ruaok
the D1 is a great design, though.
2020-06-25 17718, 2020
alastairp
I'm glad we got the official ones then :)
2020-06-25 17725, 2020
iliekcomputers
moin!
2020-06-25 17729, 2020
ruaok
but the ESP32 with the OLED is a game changer for me.
2020-06-25 17730, 2020
alastairp
yeah, for our purposes they work really well
2020-06-25 17739, 2020
ruaok
moin, iliekcomputers
2020-06-25 17748, 2020
alastairp
ours is stuck inside a plastic tube in a barrel of beer, so not so much need for an OLED
2020-06-25 17721, 2020
ruaok
yeah. and I want a UI I can look at without having to log in via a mobile.
2020-06-25 17734, 2020
ruaok
or without LED blink codes. 🙄
2020-06-25 17754, 2020
alastairp
our beer measurer sends measurements directly to brewersfriend, which is integrated with my recipes
2020-06-25 17718, 2020
alastairp
so I can say "brew this", and it gives us step-by-step instructions during brew day, and then links measurements into a dash, joined up with that brew
2020-06-25 17720, 2020
alastairp
it's neat
2020-06-25 17752, 2020
ruaok
niiiice
2020-06-25 17711, 2020
alastairp
what's your power setup for a D1 like?
2020-06-25 17731, 2020
alastairp
usb? lithium cell + charge controller?
2020-06-25 17706, 2020
ruaok
USB, but the D1s last at most a few weeks before dying.
2020-06-25 17713, 2020
alastairp
right
2020-06-25 17705, 2020
ruaok
I wish my power sockets in my house also provided clean 5V@5A.
I've been reading about people who convert vans for travelling, and most of them have 12v/5v coming straight out of the storage battery for powering laptops and lights
2020-06-25 17752, 2020
alastairp
instead of stepup transformer and then down again
2020-06-25 17709, 2020
ruaok
duh.
2020-06-25 17721, 2020
ruaok
so much waste going to 120/220 first, then back down.
2020-06-25 17732, 2020
ruaok
DC to DC converters are really nice too
2020-06-25 17741, 2020
ruaok
12V => 5V
2020-06-25 17746, 2020
alastairp
yeah, right
2020-06-25 17715, 2020
alastairp
anyway, our attempt at hacking together a breadboard system like that one didn't work
2020-06-25 17725, 2020
alastairp
next step, custom PCBs
2020-06-25 17758, 2020
ruaok
yeah, those are fraught with peril.
2020-06-25 17729, 2020
ruaok
I spent time making a custom circuit design. ordered a custom board. made the custom circuit and new my board is mostly fried.
2020-06-25 17735, 2020
ruaok
what did it?
2020-06-25 17706, 2020
ruaok
do I have bunk boards on the way? I did get my former business partner to review my circuit and I should be in the clear.
2020-06-25 17744, 2020
ruaok
bad base ESP32 board i would guess. 25€ board gone, $50 PCB useless.
2020-06-25 17704, 2020
alastairp
oh damn
2020-06-25 17706, 2020
ruaok
well, the latter might be retrofittable for one MCU board I have, but I need to buy better quality.
2020-06-25 17727, 2020
alastairp
I guess this is that same story as always... try and buy cheap to save money, always costs you more in the nend
2020-06-25 17728, 2020
alastairp
end
2020-06-25 17733, 2020
ruaok
but that is the game of designing your own circuit boards.
2020-06-25 17750, 2020
ruaok
yes. but, getting at what is quality and what is shit... is hard.
2020-06-25 17702, 2020
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2020-06-25 17731, 2020
alastairp
this experiment is getting very close to the breakeven point where it would have been cheaper to buy the commercial variation :)
2020-06-25 17728, 2020
ruaok
oh really? you could just buy a debugged one? why are you going this route then? masochist?
2020-06-25 17749, 2020
Gazooo joined the channel
2020-06-25 17751, 2020
alastairp
"oh but we're supposed to be makers and do everything ourselves!"
2020-06-25 17756, 2020
ruaok
I only ever build things that I cannot buy. (the things I design)
2020-06-25 17708, 2020
alastairp
oh? interesting
2020-06-25 17717, 2020
ruaok
> "oh but we're supposed to be makers and do everything ourselves!"
2020-06-25 17726, 2020
ruaok
that on its own is a BS sentiment.
2020-06-25 17743, 2020
ruaok
if you want to learn the process, then fine. but if you want to save money, eeek.
2020-06-25 17749, 2020
alastairp
yeah, absolutely
2020-06-25 17730, 2020
ruaok
take all your software learning and apply it here.
2020-06-25 17735, 2020
alastairp
so there are the 2 variations, this german diy one (theoretically has a license saying you can't sell them commercially, but many people sell built versions on ebay), or you can get the industrial one, which is https://tilthydrometer.com/
2020-06-25 17750, 2020
ruaok
would you write a new module if you could download a maintained and debugged one? you'd have to have good reason.
2020-06-25 17721, 2020
ruaok
$135? and you hesitated?
2020-06-25 17729, 2020
alastairp
of course, _if_ we get ours working, the price will be much lower than either. but the first time we looked, I didn't find the pre-built diy ones. Probably if I had found them I would have gone for it
2020-06-25 17751, 2020
alastairp
yeah, in hindsight it's not a lot for something that works well and has a 2y warranty
2020-06-25 17756, 2020
alastairp
fine, next time
2020-06-25 17703, 2020
ruaok
warranty.
2020-06-25 17739, 2020
ruaok
if your goal was to learn, then great. I
2020-06-25 17705, 2020
ruaok
I've gone that route several times and I've learned a lot. but when I want to use a tool for something, I just buy the debugged one.
2020-06-25 17743, 2020
alastairp
I'm glad I did it this way and learned a bunch, but now I'm unsure if sunk cost fallacy is causing me to dig in and finish it, rather than just buying one that works
2020-06-25 17740, 2020
ruaok
just wait until you get to the point where you need to purchase the components and find out that not a single seller has all the components you want.
2020-06-25 17753, 2020
ruaok
you're likely going to bleed more than $135 in shipping.
2020-06-25 17700, 2020
ruaok
(amortized over 5, but still)
2020-06-25 17715, 2020
alastairp
or when I build 3 and each of them fail in a slightly different way, causing none of them to work
2020-06-25 17752, 2020
ruaok
And maintenance on that mess? Fuuuun!
2020-06-25 17713, 2020
ruaok
I made a clapper switch for the LED lights in my room.
2020-06-25 17744, 2020
ruaok
Works ok, but finding an old skool mic is harder
2020-06-25 17704, 2020
ruaok
Everything is clever these days.
2020-06-25 17730, 2020
ruaok
The mic board I used adjusted the sensitivity of the mic over time.
2020-06-25 17756, 2020
ruaok
The lights should switch on with clapping. But in the end snoring triggered them too.
2020-06-25 17710, 2020
ruaok
You can see the fail from a mile away now...
2020-06-25 17713, 2020
_lucifer
alastairp: hi! I am able to build essentia but it ignores some algos because it is unable to find some dependencies like taglib and chromaprint but those are present on pc and found by pkg-config.
2020-06-25 17711, 2020
alastairp
_lucifer: mm, did you look at the build log? it might give some more details about why it decided it wasn't useful
2020-06-25 17727, 2020
alastairp
ruaok: easy, just don't snore. duh
2020-06-25 17709, 2020
ruaok
Build a high tech anti snore device!!
2020-06-25 17731, 2020
alastairp
more technology will save us
2020-06-25 17735, 2020
ruaok
yep.
2020-06-25 17755, 2020
ruaok
though I'm still working out what is zapping my energy, so this week I haven't gone much.
