MBS-11190: Change the name of "Montagnais" language to "Innu" or "Innu-aimun"
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CatQuest
Lotheric: cool :D
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Lotheric
CatQuest, skræling language :P (sort of)
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CatQuest
:P
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CatQuest
I'm pretty sure "skrælling" wasn't a nice word they called them
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CatQuest
idk what it means, the closest I can think of in modern norwegian would be "skrulling" (crazy/werido) or "spjæling" (weakinling)
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iliekcomputers
FYI, I've been thinking about it and thought I'd put it down here
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iliekcomputers
I've personally historically appreciated album recommendations much more than song or playlists
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iliekcomputers
With album recommendations, you get an order decided by an artist instead of an algorithm
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iliekcomputers
And it's generally much better
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iliekcomputers
Also, you just need to recommend one good album to make people trust your recommendations more
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iliekcomputers
Vs songs or playlists where if you follow up a good song with a bad one, your credibility is pretty much gone
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iliekcomputers
Also, even if the playlist decided by the algorithm is better than an album by some chance, I think people appreciate human curated orders of songs in albums more than auto-generated stuff.
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iliekcomputers
None of this is backed up by actual data, but I believe that all of it is still true.
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Lotheric
personally, I listen to albums, rarely playlists or individual songs (I do when I watch videos on youtube)
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iliekcomputers
Yeah exactly
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iliekcomputers
If I was building a recommendation engine for myself, I'd make it recommend albums, not tracks or playlists
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Lotheric
when I'm on spotify and I click new releases and a playlists loads up I'm like.. duh
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iliekcomputers
Yep
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iliekcomputers
I use rate your music to get most popular albums
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iliekcomputers
Or I go to good artists or genres and pick up albums from there
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Lotheric
I grew up with cassettes and cds.. maybe it's different for younger peoples :)
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iliekcomputers
I know people curate their own playlists these days
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iliekcomputers
But I don't know anyone who really loves a single auto-generated playlist
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iliekcomputers
I think generating good playlists is a much harder problem to solve than recommending good albums
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iliekcomputers
And I'm not sure if generating good playlists is really a more worthy problem to solve than recommending good albums anyways
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Lotheric
don't know any online service that recommend albums
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iliekcomputers
I'm pretty sure last.fm used to many moons ago
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iliekcomputers
But now, I'm not sure either
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Lotheric
one thing I liked that they did is finding users with similar taste
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Lotheric
according to their scroblles
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iliekcomputers
Lotheric: yes!
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iliekcomputers
I'm supposed to be working on that :D
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Lotheric
That's a fun feature :)
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iliekcomputers
Yep, I think we can get a first version of that shipped by the end of the year
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iliekcomputers
Hopefully
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Lotheric
I think it's more fun to find a user with similar taste in music (few common listens) and then explore what you don't know in their listening history
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iliekcomputers
The problem I'm grappling right now is whether we should show similarity between any user pair or just show users other similar people
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Lotheric
...than... auto-generated playlists...
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iliekcomputers
They're different problems and need different solutions
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iliekcomputers
Like if you're user x
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iliekcomputers
Do you want to see similarity with any other user y
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iliekcomputers
Or do you want to see the top 10 similar users to you
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iliekcomputers
The auto generated playlists are also pretty much based off users who have common listens with you
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iliekcomputers
But they still seem a bit too... impersonal, I guess
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Lotheric
for example
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Lotheric
I listen to hip hop... (english, french and Québécois hip hop). I'm interested in finding new french hip hop from a fellow listener that listens to french hip hop but I don't want to listen to a 3 way split playlist of the 3 types of hip hop you see ?
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Lotheric
Going to the listening history of a fellow listener with similar taste and trying a few unknown artists from his history is more fun to discover new music
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Lotheric
for me at least
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iliekcomputers
Hmm, yeah, that makes sense. That's essentially what our algorithm right now does. But because it generates playlists (and because it's an algorithm) it doesn't feel as good.
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iliekcomputers
That is, it tries to find users similar to you and then recommend things you havent listened to yet.
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iliekcomputers
I guess, exposing the actual similar users would be helpful for people
