#metabrainz

MBS-11190: Change the name of "Montagnais" language to "Innu" or "Innu-aimun"

Lotheric: cool :D

CatQuest, skræling language :P (sort of)

:P

I'm pretty sure "skrælling" wasn't a nice word they called them

idk what it means, the closest I can think of in modern norwegian would be "skrulling" (crazy/werido) or "spjæling" (weakinling)

FYI, I've been thinking about it and thought I'd put it down here

I've personally historically appreciated album recommendations much more than song or playlists

With album recommendations, you get an order decided by an artist instead of an algorithm

And it's generally much better

Also, you just need to recommend one good album to make people trust your recommendations more

Vs songs or playlists where if you follow up a good song with a bad one, your credibility is pretty much gone

Also, even if the playlist decided by the algorithm is better than an album by some chance, I think people appreciate human curated orders of songs in albums more than auto-generated stuff.

None of this is backed up by actual data, but I believe that all of it is still true.

personally, I listen to albums, rarely playlists or individual songs (I do when I watch videos on youtube)

Yeah exactly

If I was building a recommendation engine for myself, I'd make it recommend albums, not tracks or playlists

when I'm on spotify and I click new releases and a playlists loads up I'm like.. duh

Yep

I use rate your music to get most popular albums

Or I go to good artists or genres and pick up albums from there

I grew up with cassettes and cds.. maybe it's different for younger peoples :)

I know people curate their own playlists these days

But I don't know anyone who really loves a single auto-generated playlist

I think generating good playlists is a much harder problem to solve than recommending good albums

And I'm not sure if generating good playlists is really a more worthy problem to solve than recommending good albums anyways

don't know any online service that recommend albums

I'm pretty sure last.fm used to many moons ago

But now, I'm not sure either

one thing I liked that they did is finding users with similar taste

according to their scroblles

Lotheric: yes!

I'm supposed to be working on that :D

That's a fun feature :)

Yep, I think we can get a first version of that shipped by the end of the year

Hopefully

I think it's more fun to find a user with similar taste in music (few common listens) and then explore what you don't know in their listening history

The problem I'm grappling right now is whether we should show similarity between any user pair or just show users other similar people

...than... auto-generated playlists...

They're different problems and need different solutions

Like if you're user x

Do you want to see similarity with any other user y

Or do you want to see the top 10 similar users to you

The auto generated playlists are also pretty much based off users who have common listens with you

But they still seem a bit too... impersonal, I guess

for example

I listen to hip hop... (english, french and Québécois hip hop). I'm interested in finding new french hip hop from a fellow listener that listens to french hip hop but I don't want to listen to a 3 way split playlist of the 3 types of hip hop you see ?

Going to the listening history of a fellow listener with similar taste and trying a few unknown artists from his history is more fun to discover new music

for me at least

Hmm, yeah, that makes sense. That's essentially what our algorithm right now does. But because it generates playlists (and because it's an algorithm) it doesn't feel as good.

That is, it tries to find users similar to you and then recommend things you havent listened to yet.

I guess, exposing the actual similar users would be helpful for people

Then they get to make their own choices

it'll make LB more social too I guess