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I mean. most of that owudl go to rent, electricity, etc but

poc a poc :D

CatQuest: it wouldn't pay most rents in Estonian cities

Well, it might pay the rent, but not the utilities

hard to pay rent in BCN with that.

sharing a room, maybe. your own flat? nope.

sharing a flat, sorry.

Here that's *about* the cost of renting your own flat

I mean, you can get it cheaper if you're ok with the shower being in the kitchen

wut

reosarevok's strange fantasies

shivam-kapila: #thingsscandinavianslike

Or if you have enough money for a mortgage - then you probably pay 200€ per month or whatever :)

rents are cheaper in india tbh

shivam-kapila: if your house was built back when you went to the public baths to clean yourself, then it won't have a bathroom :)

100-200 USD and you can get decent 2BHK

hello, I'm here for the afternoon

thank you

need anything else?

see you another day

lol

hey, that's for all of us!!

hello are we talking about rent

and afternoons.

shivam-kapila: So, especially for cheap houses, sometimes you have a shared toilet in the corridor and the shower is just placed wherever water is - so, the kitchen corner

It's not *common*, but I had one of those

iliekcomputers: hundred twenty five thousand six hundred minutes?

oh. My father told me thier old ancestral house had a similar architecture

five hundred, even

.. seriously my rent is cheaper than yours?? https://i.imgflip.com/507dqh.jpg

alastairp: ruaok Mr_Monkey iliekcomputers _lucifer I was trying a mockup for the new profile page. I am currently stuck on what else to show. Any suggestions?

CatQuest: I expect your rent is cheaper because you have lived in there for a long time? In Spain some cases are like that

(ugh. Sigyn said you spammed by tagging :\)

Like, are new similar apartments near you being rented for the same?

ruaok: did yours go up since you moved here? I recall it was less than that when you arrived

mine is 1135 euro but my apartment is much much shittier than ruaok's

reosarevok: no idea and now i'm scared

isn't housing crisis fun

I guess they're around 6000 (well were 10 years ago :/)

not till you are homeless

We pay 250€ per month + another 150 to 200€ or so in utilities + heating + everything

housing crisis, huh 2008?

But that's loan not rent

;)

up 200 after my first 5 years, yes. but 400 wouldn't have been out of place. I just didn't give in to my landlord. he had to fix exactly nothing in 5 years. I fixed it (and stuff in the building) myself and always pay my rent/bills on time. he gave in

Rent for the same apartment, *at least* 380, maybe 450

shivam-kapila: the timeline will be a different page or a part of the profile page?

I like how BCN is designed btw (as it looks in the pictures atleast)

_lucifer: different

shivam-kapila: the first city planner of the world, designed BCN.

Well, the designed part :D

The center is "good luck getting lost"

Ildefons Cerda.

But then, most old centers are

ruaok: wow. The night view is so mesmerising

that wasn't his work -- that was his inspiration. (let's unfuck this!)

i remember the main via thin, that was neat

It's nice design for a city

If only it had max 100k people in it, I'd even like it :D

and getting better by the day.

and without tourists? LOVELY.

Coming to city designs. My city is not at all designed CC _lucifer :p

design? hahah OSLO. hahah what

lol

oof

oof reo

Well, yeah, I guess that's like at least as many people as the actual inhabitants

The tourist mass

I'm so happy nobody can be bothered to come here :D

shivam-kapila: lol true, i think only chandigarh was designed most other cities have very less planning around here

I just love that all the greedy airbnb speculators ate shit at the start of the pandemic.

shivam-kapila: the mockups look good for now, I don't think we have enough understanding of what we want to put on such a page yet though. I think it might be a good idea to focus on each of the widgets (we already have the 'you are following' and 'follow you'). Let's add one for mutually follow, and the compatibility indicator. Are you happy to work on the react components?

_lucifer: yeah. But as the city expands its becoming a mess.

alastairp: Yeah totally

ruaok: I guess rent prices haven't come down tho?

only if you move.

spanish landlords refuse to lower rents.

reosarevok: a little. most airbnb speculators have their places up on idealista for 11 month contracts

but are happy to have a flat sit empty for 6 months while a new tenant comes in.

same in India

much cheaper than the same place on airbnb, but they're definitely going to kick you out when the tourists come back

you can see immediately from the photos that it's one of those

another unintentional consequence of technology based "disruption"

Not so sure about "unintentional", but :)

it's an externality they never thought about

I mean, promoting greed seems kinda intentional, I guess gentrification isn't

or cared about

talking about following/follwers, I had a thought while thinking about how we differentiate ourselves from other social networks... Are we planning on making the list of followers/followees public? If I go to see information about reosarevok's profile can I see who he is following?

I'd like that, alastairp

I wont like to see reosarevok followers at least :p

yeah, it's a worrying thought

lol

ok, no problem. we can keep that

Wonder how long until we have fake users

I was just thinking about how a site would work if you could follow someone, but no one could see who you followed

Recently I'm starting to get fake users liking my "I want to read this" *in Goodreads*

I can't think of a reason why that should be kept private

"Person you never heard of likes you want to read this obscure Estonian book" sounds legit

ruaok: iliekcomputers: I saw you throwing around ideas for URL structures for API this morning. is that solidified?

alastairp: yes

So if they're there, I assume they'd also want to be in LB :p

`/1/user/<user>/timeline-events/create/recording`is what we ended up with.

great. that fits well with my comment on the planning doc

my main point was to make sure that user centric calls go under /user

we should move the json endpoint from lb.org/user/<user_name>/followers to api/1/[same url]

> talking about following/follwers, I had a thought while thinking about how we differentiate ourselves from other social networks... Are we planning on making the list of followers/followees public? If I go to see information about reosarevok's profile can I see who he is following?

This reminds me of "Will the blocked user be able to see this in some indirect way e.g. a disable follow button?"

and if we already have a /1/user/<username> structure, it'll fit right in

got link for that, alastairp ?

shivam-kapila: yeah, we haven't talked much about what blocking means yet.

ruaok: planning document, Follow user -> work to do (page 2)

alastairp: okay okay

ruaok: `sudo su - request_consumer` asks for a password

k, it sounded like it was already implemented.

_lucifer: hang on

ruaok: iliekcomputers already implemented it, but in the main website namespace. this is just a case of moving an existing method to another file

lol

lol

_lucifer: done. may need to log out and back in.

iliekcomputers: are you making any pydantic models?

ruaok: works now, thanks!

alastairp: yes, https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-serv...

iliekcomputers: perfect. I was just thinking about LB-801 while we were adding more models

LB-801: Unify models into the listenbrainz package https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/LB-801

would be good to get your feedback on it

i remember ishaanshah deciding to use something out of the `listenbrainz` package because we wanted to re-use models in `listenbrainz_spark` and were running into import errors

they should be unified sure, but should they be inside `listenbrainz`, i'm not completely sure.

that's a good point to consider

as I mentioned in the ticket, I'm still a little unsure about the difference between domain models and database wrapper models

ruaok: there are uncommited local changes there. i tried stashing but a couple of files will get overwritten if i switch branch. can you take a look?

I just `git reset --hard`to clear it out.

lol

:D

Mr_Monkey: I was thinking about something like this https://i.ibb.co/qj1Lwfq/Screenshot-2021-03-03-...

atj: I mean, sure that isn't bad

(but I'd prefer listening ot it in whole but)

yes, but that's not the aim :D

🤷

Deezer and Spotify provide links to previews in API responses

atj: I see, could be an interesting idea

"could be an interesting idea" :D