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      • LordSputnik
        Freso: what do you mean?

        • 2015-09-25 26829, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Ohhh

        • 2015-09-25 26832, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        $

        • 2015-09-25 26846, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        I believe it's sh

        • 2015-09-25 26827, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        (although I've never really used anything but bash and csh, so I don't know if that's right)

        • 2015-09-25 26806, 2015

      • Freso
        LordSputnik: I'll look into it.

        • 2015-09-25 26821, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Oh, /bin/sh is symlinked to dash, so I guess it's using that?

        • 2015-09-25 26841, 2015

      • Freso
        LordSputnik: When logged in as yourself, `chsh --shell /bin/bash`?

        • 2015-09-25 26856, 2015

      • Freso
        Maybe you need to append your user to it too.

        • 2015-09-25 26829, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Perfect (with sudo)

        • 2015-09-25 26812, 2015

      • Freso
        Really? I thought it was possible for users to change their shell without root. :/

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      • LordSputnik
        It said I didn't have permission

        • 2015-09-25 26800, 2015

      • Freso
        Darn.

        • 2015-09-25 26840, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        now BookBrainz stuff...

        • 2015-09-25 26842, 2015

      • Freso
        Did you specify your login or no?

        • 2015-09-25 26808, 2015

      • Freso
        `chsh -s /bin/bash` seems like it would work for me, only I have no idea what my login's password is. :p

        • 2015-09-25 26827, 2015

      • Freso
        (Ie., using it without specifying the account.)

        • 2015-09-25 26840, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Freso: I tried with and without, same erro

        • 2015-09-25 26849, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Although it's asking for a password now I retry

        • 2015-09-25 26800, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        perhaps it was something to do with having dash as the default shell

        • 2015-09-25 26829, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Btw, http://waveplot.net:3000/ is up for music player goodness, and should be for 3-4 hours now

        • 2015-09-25 26832, 2015

      • Freso
        Ooh. Yes. It's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0 !

        • 2015-09-25 26810, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Haha, well for now I'm doing a little bit more work on the ORM, because I've been neglecting it for the last few days

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      • Freso
        !m LordSputnik

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      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, LordSputnik!

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      • LordSputnik
        haha :D

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      • CatQuest
        !m LordSputnik

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      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, LordSputnik!

        • 2015-09-25 26854, 2015

      • CatQuest
        :D

        • 2015-09-25 26805, 2015

      • CatQuest
        !m Freso

        • 2015-09-25 26805, 2015

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, Freso!

        • 2015-09-25 26839, 2015

      • chirlu`
        !m BrainzBot

        • 2015-09-25 26839, 2015

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, BrainzBot!

        • 2015-09-25 26851, 2015

      • ruaok
        !m GraceNote

        • 2015-09-25 26851, 2015

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, GraceNote!

        • 2015-09-25 26852, 2015

      • MBChatLogger
        disgracenote is evil!

        • 2015-09-25 26853, 2015

      • MBChatLogger
        disgracenote is evil!

        • 2015-09-25 26858, 2015

      • ruaok snickers

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      • CatQuest
        it's like they're arguing

        • 2015-09-25 26825, 2015

      • CatQuest
        !f BrainzBot

        • 2015-09-25 26830, 2015

      • CatQuest
        !s BrainzBot

        • 2015-09-25 26832, 2015

      • zas
        LordSputnik: does it work with 24bits/192khz FLACs too ? The UI is a bit rough atm, but it works pretty well (i got minor interruptions when opening a new tab ie. on firefox)

        • 2015-09-25 26835, 2015

      • CatQuest
        !t BrainzBot

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      • CatQuest
        ohh there is links0r?

        • 2015-09-25 26802, 2015

      • CatQuest
        jaaa

        • 2015-09-25 26811, 2015

      • CatQuest
        uhh. i don't get what i'm supposed to do here

        • 2015-09-25 26825, 2015

      • CatQuest
        wait now it works. odd :D

        • 2015-09-25 26830, 2015

      • CatQuest
        it works, it work it works

        • 2015-09-25 26831, 2015

      • CatQuest
        it does it does it does :D

        • 2015-09-25 26832, 2015

      • CatQuest
        :P

        • 2015-09-25 26853, 2015

      • CatQuest
        lol abba :D

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      • Leftmost
        LordSputnik, Leo_Verto, pre-pinging.

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      • CatQuest
        blup?

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      • CatQuest
        but why have the meeting at 22:30 cest?

        • 2015-09-25 26840, 2015

      • CatQuest
        (I assume is the start tim anyway)

        • 2015-09-25 26812, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Leftmost: gonna be about half an hour late, we've had a pizza delivery incident :/

        • 2015-09-25 26825, 2015

      • CatQuest
        :O

        • 2015-09-25 26826, 2015

      • Leftmost
        Okay.

        • 2015-09-25 26848, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Feel free to discuss some stuff without me, and I'll add my comments when I get here :)

        • 2015-09-25 26816, 2015

      • CatQuest
        this time I'm here though so.. but it guess not necesarry :/

        • 2015-09-25 26828, 2015

      • Leftmost
        CatQuest, because that's the time we settled on way back when and no one has suggested we change it that I'm aware.

        • 2015-09-25 26849, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        CatQuest: Leftmost: meeting agenda point 1 while I'm not here - what's a better time? :D

        • 2015-09-25 26853, 2015

      • CatQuest
        yea. :)

        • 2015-09-25 26810, 2015

      • CatQuest
        earlier than 22:30 @:D

        • 2015-09-25 26815, 2015

      • Leftmost
        It's fine with me, but if we want to change, we'll probably have to work something out.

        • 2015-09-25 26804, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        zas: I'd guess so, I haven't tested beyond standard CD sample rate/16bit stereo though

        • 2015-09-25 26805, 2015

      • Freso
        Isn't it always half an hour+ late? :p

        • 2015-09-25 26811, 2015

      • Freso
        That is, when people are actually around. :)

        • 2015-09-25 26823, 2015

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BB meeting agenda: ??

        • 2015-09-25 26851, 2015

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BB meeting agenda: Site Style (Lobes? Logo? Flat UIs?), Hubot (Broken? Server access?), Summit (BookBrainz discussion? Topics?)

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      • Freso
        So... 8 minutes, Leftmost LordSputz Leo_Verto.

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      • LordSputnik
        Leo_Verto: Leftmost: CatQuest: Freso: I'm here :)

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      • CatQuest
        :D

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      • Leftmost
        HHurrah!

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      • Leftmost
        s/HH/H/

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      • LordSputnik
        Anyone seen Leo_Verto this evening?

        • 2015-09-25 26819, 2015

      • Leftmost
        I have not.

        • 2015-09-25 26855, 2015

      • Leftmost
        Shall we start anyhow?

        • 2015-09-25 26856, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Ok, well, he didn't reply to earlier pings either, so I think we probably won't see him tonight

        • 2015-09-25 26858, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        so <BANG>

        • 2015-09-25 26812, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Ok, I'll start - haven't really done anything this week

        • 2015-09-25 26823, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        I made a cool web-based FLAC player though :)

        • 2015-09-25 26831, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        And also lost my passport

        • 2015-09-25 26842, 2015

      • CatQuest
        :(

        • 2015-09-25 26849, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        I don't *think* that'll prevent me coming to the summit, but I'll keep you updated

        • 2015-09-25 26854, 2015

      • Leftmost
        I've just been sifting the current code, looking to get a sense of how things fit together and how they ought to fit together.

        • 2015-09-25 26820, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Noted stuff for improvemen

        • 2015-09-25 26823, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        ts?

        • 2015-09-25 26835, 2015

      • Leftmost
        Also, I got all my materials together to get my passport renewed, so I'll be doing that bright and early Monday. (I should be able to get it in time for the summit.)

        • 2015-09-25 26847, 2015

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      • Leftmost
        LordSputnik, I'll be taking notes, but right now it's just mental spatial placement.

        • 2015-09-25 26809, 2015

      • CatQuest has been doing bio stuff and going on a field study!

        • 2015-09-25 26809, 2015

      • CatQuest
        so hasn't had much time to test features :(

        • 2015-09-25 26831, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Yeah, I should be able to get it done in a week, but the appointment can be up to 3 weeks from when you ring, so it's tight... I'll probably ring Sunday (having a last look around tomorrow)

        • 2015-09-25 26855, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        CatQuest: ah nice, I did a field study of a coastal ecosystem a while ago :)

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      • CatQuest
        :D

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      • CatQuest
        yea it was a costal thing

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      • CatQuest
        we looked at plancton we picked up in microscopes today

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      • LordSputnik
        Oh really nice, we didn't get down to that level - just snails and stuff!

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      • LordSputnik
        So, onto site style

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      • CatQuest
        neat :D

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      • CatQuest
        flat UI!

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      • Leftmost
        Mostly I just want to make sure I understand how things fit together and how to make them fit together better if possible.

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      • LordSputnik
        Leftmost: yes, there's a lot of refactoring to be done, I think

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      • LordSputnik
        I've bought a book on that :)

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      • CatQuest
        add it to bb!

        • 2015-09-25 26844, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        So, I said last week, and I haven't changed my mind - I'm not a huge fan of Lobes

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      • LordSputnik
        I think the viable alternatives to create a new "Lobes-like" style are something like https://bootswatch.com/flatly/ or something like http://bootflat.github.io/documentation.html

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      • LordSputnik
        (Flat-UI only comes with all the elements we need if you pay for Pro)

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      • CatQuest
        :(

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      • LordSputnik
        Also https://bootswatch.com/cosmo/ looks quite nice

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      • Leftmost
        I'm strongly of the opinion that we should match our style with MB, so this sounds like something MeB-wide to discuss.

        • 2015-09-25 26826, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        True, but I think we should take the lead in creating an alternative

        • 2015-09-25 26821, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        My own reason for disliking it is that the elements are inconsistent (eg. some follow a flat style, while others have shadows), and there are quite a lot of buggy parts (eg. buttons not being on the right level with text), and also it doesn't play well with mobiles (eg. the buttons on the main page)

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      • Leftmost
        I have no problem taking the lead, but I think it should probably be discussed with the community as a whole before we commit.

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      • LordSputnik
        Ok

        • 2015-09-25 26800, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        Let's bring it up Monday

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      • LordSputnik
        Secondly, Logo

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      • LordSputnik
        I like the design, but I'm still not convinced about brown

        • 2015-09-25 26851, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        I associate brown with dullness, and it also isn't a particularly useful colour in a UI

        • 2015-09-25 26857, 2015

      • LordSputnik
        (too close to black)

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      • LordSputnik
        I'd be happier if it was a more vibrant colour

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      • LordSputnik
        I could create some more logo samples, if you guys also feel that brown is bad, or we can leave it if you think I'm just being pedantic

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      • CatQuest
        don't really hate brown, but it's maybe a little dull? but dull cna be ok, idk

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      • CatQuest
        maybe brown and green instead of yellow

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      • Leftmost
        I haven't been a fan of the brown, but that's another thing that I think at least requires Rob's input. At least as I understand it.

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      • LordSputnik
        Leftmost: the final decision definitely needs Rob's approval, but I think it'd be good to go to him with a "first pick" and a "runner up"

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      • ruaok
        the thing I most care about is that you finally decide what you want and then stick with it.

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      • Leftmost
        Alright. Something that goes well with orange. :-P

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      • CatQuest
        green goes well with orange@! :D

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      • LordSputnik
        I'll draw up some more candidates and send them out soon

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      • Freso
        ^

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      • Freso
        Green goes will with .*

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      • Freso
        s/will/well/

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      • LordSputnik
        CatQuest: the problem is that the blue/green/purple palette is pretty occupied by other *Brainz projects