LordSputnik, I'm liking the direction that table inheritance would take us. I think it would allow us to ignore abstractions when they don't need to be explicit but still have those abstractions for when we want them.
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Leftmost
(We don't need to worry about creating a Revision for an EntityRevision, but we can still get a list of all Revisions if we want it.)
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Leftmost
I'm now wondering about the wisdom of offloading some of the effort of hiding implementation details like the distinction between Entity and EntityData in postgresql. Have entity be a view of some sort which presents the flattened object. It simplifies the data layer further, but I'm not totally sure of the consequences.
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Leftmost
(bitmap, Guest66112, feedback on this would be appreciated from someone who knows postgresql better.)
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Leftmost: I just tried postgres inheritance out, it is indeed wonderful
LordSputnik, was looking through the docs and I think it'll work great for us. Not exactly sure how to utilize it, though. Revisions, obviously, and Relationships. Unclear if we should rework our entity schemas for it, though.
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Leftmost
At the very least, I do think we should have some sort of view for entities that gives the full entity object with data folded in.
Leftmost: Should we finish node-orm first and then implement the DB polymorphism or the other way around?
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Leftmost
I'd lean toward getting a working database implementation in place and keep an ongoing dialogue about what we want the database to look like in the long run.
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Leftmost: I've updated all of -site's dependencies. Had to manually go through the changes for all 31 to make sure there was nothing breaking. Another reason to add more tests :P
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LordSputnik
I've signed up to greenkeeper.io (http://greenkeeper.io/) for -data-js, so the dependencies will be automatically updated with PRs
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LordSputnik
(since we have tests there)
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Leftmost
Yeah, we have a few things to sort out.
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LordSputnik
Unfortunately travis is still caching the old dependencies for a few of the tests, but the next build should be after they're deleted
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Leftmost
What's the current state of your entity stuff for -data-js?
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LordSputnik
In progress, not had much time lately
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Leftmost
Okay.
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Leftmost
I'll try to sketch up some thoughts on the database and keep working on the things immediately in front of me and we can talk more tomorrow about what we should be looking at.
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Leftmost
I can try and improve our coverage as well.
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LordSputnik
OK
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LordSputnik
Leftmost: just resent the invite to the BB Startup Procedures document, so you might be able to deploy the new site code on rika for testing now
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Leftmost
Cool, thank you.
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daksh
I am getting an error when I try searching for "taylor swift" at the search page. The error says "read timeout at /usr/share/perl5/Net/HTTP/Methods.pm line 257, line 116.
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daksh
" Unusal?
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Leftmost
The search server is currently having some issues, apparently.
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ruaok_
naw, that's just for taylor swift fans. :)
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ruaok_
I
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ruaok_
I've been waiting for the search servers to cool off a bit.
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ruaok_
any moment now.
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Leftmost
Literally?
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daksh
Alrighty :)
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daksh
Thank you :D
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ruaok_, how much notice would you say I should give for rika downtime for an upgrade?
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ruaok_
I suppose a blog post the day before would be good
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Leftmost
Okay. I'll put together something that someone can post tomorrow and do it Tuesday. if that works.
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ruaok_
I'd say that is perfect.
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ruaok_
ok, search is bent back into shape.
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ruaok_
zas: FYI, the search servers like to be rebooted every 2-3 weeks.
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ruaok_
I think we ought upgrade them ASAP.
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ruaok_
that might help with the problem, methinks.
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daksh
Isn't the website like quite an old design?
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daksh
Why din't some web developers of the community update that? It seems so old? Or is it, umm. I am drawing a blank here
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CatQuest
daksh: sh! or you'll give them ideas
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CatQuest
¬__¬
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CatQuest
(certainly some functionality could be updated) but generally I like the way the website looks now
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daksh
CatQuest, I mean, I am just like too new here, But the website seems like a stock wiki one. No offence
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CatQuest
(I saw we wait out the bootstrap-fad and instead jump on the next-next big design thing!)
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daksh
CatQuest, Why not some really nice themes and stuff? Like the new frameworks and responsive pages...
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CatQuest
generally i prefer usability over fancy pages, but i guess that's jsut me...
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daksh
CatQuest, What is bootstrap-fad?
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CatQuest
every page ever
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CatQuest
now
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CatQuest
ok
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CatQuest
there's.. uh the thing with not focusing on design nd having jsut a ready made theme
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CatQuest
and uh, can focus on ontent instead. which is.. very usefull
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CatQuest
but everybape ever is bootsrtap
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CatQuest
ersj, every page ever is bootstrap
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daksh
CatQuest, To someone who is searching I would say, the design would appeal more. Like say "musixmatch" is very popular android app...