#metabrainz

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      • zas
        Leftmost: something is prolly stuck during the startup process :(
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      • zas
        ruaok: i stopped the indexer for now, since search servers are ... experimental ;)
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      • bitmap wonders if this tomcat_memory thing can check if things exist first before grepping them
      • 2015-11-24 32833, 2015

      • zas
        it can, it was a hack
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      • zas
        i'll stop it
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      • zas
        ok stopped
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      • zas
        it was a fast hack to get stats about search servers on those old dists
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      • zas
        for now we switched to jetty, to see if it works better than tomcat
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      • bitmap
        I'm used to the emails, I was just wondering if it was 'working as designed' ;)
      • 2015-11-24 32819, 2015

      • zas
        it wasn't "designed" ;)
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      • bitmap
        haha fair enough
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      • Leftmost
        At this point, I'm comfortable saying someone will have to take a physical look at rika.
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      • zas
        ruaok: ^^
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      • LordSputnik
        Leftmost: pong
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      • kepstin
        anyways, if people would like their irccloud to be low-contrast and yellowish, feel free to give https://userstyles.org/styles/121074/irccloud-sol… a try :)
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      • zas
        ruaok: i set up daemontools service for jetty, check /etc/service/jetty-service, on dora & roobarb. It uses softlimit to take care of memory leaks and run under unpriviledged user, logs available too
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      • zas
        but i dont think it works as it should ... :(
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      • zas
        servers are receiving queries and answering but stats shows our ratio between 2xx and 5xx is still abd
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      • zas
        they exhibit the exact same behavior at startup, huge cpu consumption for 7-8 mins
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      • zas
        ok, they are running now. But imho they still have the (not) slow start issue, they couldn't catch up when started with full request rate.
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      • zas
        i had to reduce it, start servers, and increase it again
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      • zas
        so this is more related to the search server code than the java env. Though jetty memory usage is lower and cpu looks a bit better too
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      • zas
        ruaok: i modified search restart scripts on dora/roobarb to svc -t /etc/service/jetty-service instead of the wild killall -9 java, and restarted the indexer
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      • zas
        apart monitoring (nagios/graphana), the rest is ok.
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      • zas
        we'll see if they are stabler than tomcat
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      • zas
        i have to do a pause now, if you want to set nagios, perhaps just change ports to 8080 on jetty configs and ernie's nginx one.
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      • zas
        bitmap: Guess Case in artist's editor doesn't match english guidelines for "stouffi the stouves" it capitalizes it as "Stouffi The Stouves" instead of "Stouffi the Stouves" (https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Language/English, 2a)
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      • zas
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      • bitmap
        aight I'll look at the GC code later
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      • zas
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      • zas
        first batch of changes, not yet finished
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      • zas
        the test was made on precise, because Gentlecat used that, but it seems at least one package doesn't exist on it (logtster)
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      • zas
        i simulated a pino deployement for this batch
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      • zas
        apart 2 show stoppers the rest is more or less ok, though i will review cookbooks in details tomorrow
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      • zas
        (if search servers let me...)
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      • Freso
        ruaok: Does the gelato place have a website?
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      • bitmap
        yeah, we used to use https://launchpad.net/~kiall/+archive/ubuntu/logs… with precise but our ppa only has builds for trusty
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      • zas
        anyway we target trusty now
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      • ruaok_
        hi zas.
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      • ruaok_
        thanks for fighting fires.
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      • bitmap
        right, doesn't make sense to support it anymore
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      • ruaok_
        I was out trying to recruit someone for our biz dev position
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      • zas
        bitmap: i propose to separate cookbooks: 3rd-party ones in one dir, and ours in another
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      • Freso
        ruaok_: Ooh. Any luck?
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      • bitmap
        zas: makes sense
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      • ruaok_
        I've got a very promising lead.
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      • bitmap
        assuming it knows how to find them, dunno how that works
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      • zas
        also i'm using a solo.rb which defines paths, and i noticed this batch was using system-wide chef cache and the like
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      • zas
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      • zas
        i didnt separate paths in it yet, but it will be an array on line 2 (simple as that)
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      • Freso
        ruaok_: Got a name or website for gelato place? :)
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      • zas
        also since we use chef-solo, i prefer we keep its files in the user's home (easier to clean if needed)
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      • ruaok_
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      • ruaok_
        I love that they have a .it domain for a .es shop. :)
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      • Freso
        Grazie.
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      • Freso
        (It's a .com though, but sure.)
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      • zas
        ruaok_: about search servers, read the back log ;)
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      • ruaok_
        ah, yes.
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      • ruaok_
        zas: I did, but it wasn't quite clear enough.
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      • ruaok_
        running on jetty now, but still have a slow start problem, right?
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      • zas
        yes, it seems, i set up daemontools for it, restarted on both, and they failed to catch up, so i did the usual procedure, reducing rate limit, then stop one, restart the other, and set the rate limit up after a while, and it works
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      • zas
        also the search server code is emitting quite a lot errors, but i think it isn't jetty related
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      • ruaok_
        sigh.
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      • zas
        i did enough for today really need to do something else ;)
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      • ruaok_
        ok, I'll keep an eye on things for the next couple of hours.
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      • ruaok_
        lets touch base on this tomorrow.
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      • zas
        yes
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      • zas
        ah, and it seems Leftmost killed rika
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      • zas
        it answers to ping, but no port open, no ssh
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      • zas
        after the reboot
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      • zas
        do we have a kvm or smt like that on those machines ?
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      • ruaok_
        nothing of the like. :(
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      • zas
        any human ? ;)
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      • Freso
        ruaok_: Did we have other sponsors than Google and Spotify?
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      • ruaok_
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      • ruaok_
        zas: do we have a clue what needs doing?
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      • ruaok_
        I have a sneaky suspicion that it might be best for me to do it.
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      • ruaok_
        on the... 11th of dec, I'll be at DWNI
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      • Freso
        ruaok_: For the summit...
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      • ruaok_
        no, just those two.
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      • zas
        i guess the machine is stuck during startup, but i don't know what was done on it
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      • Freso
        Alright.
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      • ruaok_
        in fact, we need to add spotify to the sponsors page
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      • ruaok_
        zas: it has software raid. :(
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      • ruaok_
        I bet I know what is wrong.
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      • zas
        ohoh
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      • ruaok_
        let me see if I can replace the whole thing with another donated machine with real RAID
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      • zas
        you can perhaps ask a reboot in case of (i doubt it will solve anything, but... )
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      • zas
        nothing to lose anyway
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      • zas
        ok this time ... cya
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      • ruaok_
        I'll mail for a reboot
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      • ruaok_
        yeay, search died.
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      • ruaok_
        ah, false positive from nagios.
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      • ruaok_
        zas: still here?
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      • ruaok_
        I'm wondering about index rotations.
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      • Freso
        bitmap: Ping?
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      • bitmap
        pong
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      • Freso
        How difficult is it to add a "MusicBrainz Event" to the statistics graph?
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      • Freso
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      • Freso
        Might be interested to note when we made "add release" et al edits auto-edits.
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      • Freso
        *interesting
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      • bitmap
        oh, good question, I'm not sure
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      • ruaok_
        not hard, IIRC. we need to back-fill a few things...
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      • Freso
        Mostly I'm asking whether it's at the level of "sure, your ping here is enough, let me get right on it" or "please make a ticket so I can look into this later".
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      • ruaok_
        bitmap: do you remember me packing my own care package in alviso?
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      • Freso
        It sounds like it's the latter. :)
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      • ruaok_
        where did the caution tape come from??? :)
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      • chirlu`
        There is a table statistics.statistic_event
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      • bitmap
        ruaok_: the one with the custom handle?
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      • ruaok_
        yeah.
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      • Freso
        chirlu`: Ah, so it's "manual" SQL entry?
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      • chirlu`
        I guess so.
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      • Freso
        I guess this would be an MBS ticket.
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      • chirlu`
        MBH?
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      • chirlu`
        OTHER?
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      • ruaok_
        MBS
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      • Freso
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      • Freso
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      • chirlu`
        Viewing that blog post made my browser crash.
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      • Freso
        Heh.
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      • LordSputnik
        Freso: Leftmost: It might be good to do a followup blog post on rika saying it'll be down for a longer period than anticipated
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      • Freso
        LordSputnik: chirlu` made a comment on the blog post about it.
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      • Freso
        I think that's probably enough.
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      • chirlu`
        Yeah, I guess there are very few people who care.
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      • Freso
        Yeah.
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      • chirlu`
        And even fewer who aren’t here.
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      • Freso
        Yes. :p
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      • Freso
        And those who do and aren't here should be tech savvy enough to read the comments to the post.
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      • Freso
        Perhaps Leftmost could make an edit-addendum to the blog post noting that the unforeseen has happened and the downtime will be significantly longer than planned.
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      • Freso
        (Ie., so it's right in the blog post and not in a comment.)
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      • LordSputnik
        I think if chirlu` has commented it should probably be enough ;)
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      • Freso
        (Well, it'd also be in a comment. :))
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      • LordSputnik
        As you say, anyone with a sandbox who cares is likely to already know one way or the other
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      • LordSputnik
        Time to install BookBrainz on a Raspberry Pi for pre-release testing :D
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      • Freso
        :p
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