our biz dev person is suggesting "Business Relations Cheerleader" for their position. :)
2015-12-04 33804, 2015
reosarevok
haha
2015-12-04 33856, 2015
reosarevok
So I guess I should be "Guideline Guidance Giver?
2015-12-04 33858, 2015
reosarevok
(no)
2015-12-04 33823, 2015
ruaok
Spam Wrangler?
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reosarevok
"Style, Sausage and Spam"
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reosarevok
:p
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Freso
ruaok: Community Manager
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ruaok
we need to start thinking about what our business cards are going to say.
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Freso
I know, it's the conservative one. :)
2015-12-04 33830, 2015
Freso
Yep.
2015-12-04 33838, 2015
ruaok
Executive Director won't cut it.
2015-12-04 33847, 2015
ruaok
May need to go back to Mayhem & Chaos Coordinator.
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reosarevok
ruaok: you could print two-sided ones
2015-12-04 33813, 2015
ruaok
these are two sided
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reosarevok
"Executive Director" on one side, "Mayhem & Chaos Coordinator" on the other
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reosarevok
Depending on who you give it to, you pick which side to give upwards :p
2015-12-04 33848, 2015
ruaok
:)
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alastairp
Freso: Community Mangler?
2015-12-04 33812, 2015
reosarevok
Community Untangler, if anything
2015-12-04 33839, 2015
CatQuest
[21:26] <kepstin> i guess if we end up changing the voting system to not require 'autoeditors', we should replace them with a system to let you report someone for being awesome.
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CatQuest
Nov 30 18:40:29 <CatQuest> I want a "report this user for awesome behaviour"
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CatQuest
hah!
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CatQuest
♬♫♪ "hello madness my old friend" ♫♪♬
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ruaok
ha. our bizdev person just suggested CatBrainz.
2015-12-04 33807, 2015
ruaok
because all those disorganized cat pictures on the net...
2015-12-04 33849, 2015
Freso
MemeBrainz... D:
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Freso
InternetPhenomenonBrainz...
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Freso hides
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ruaok
hmm.
2015-12-04 33826, 2015
ruaok
Freso: got a sec?
2015-12-04 33814, 2015
ruaok
I'm pondering how to handle the "all communications should be in the open" wrt to biz dev.
2015-12-04 33846, 2015
ruaok
given that a large chunk of that work will be related to companies who wish to not have their plans made public before they are ready to do so.
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reosarevok
Well, biz dev comms have never really been open
2015-12-04 33813, 2015
ruaok
exactly.
2015-12-04 33821, 2015
reosarevok
Have they? I mean, you've always let us know when it was allowed to, and nobody has seemed to have huge issues with that
2015-12-04 33836, 2015
ruaok
your sentiment is correct.
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reosarevok
I'd expect them to consult with more people before promising we can do X
2015-12-04 33857, 2015
reosarevok
But they don't need to say who is asking for this specifically probably nor what for? Dunno :)
2015-12-04 33802, 2015
ruaok
of course. this person will not be in the position to promise anything.
2015-12-04 33809, 2015
ruaok
except for sharp pokes in the eye.
2015-12-04 33845, 2015
ruaok
hmm. not 16h yet. I'll take care of #search, zas.
2015-12-04 33803, 2015
reosarevok
So, let's see what Freso says but I feel that as long as everything is made public when reasonable, it should be fine
2015-12-04 33827, 2015
reosarevok
I'd like them to come to the weekly meetings and say what they're up to as much as they can, but it's fine if it's like you do now
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ruaok nods
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ruaok
yep, that is already in the job description.
2015-12-04 33841, 2015
reosarevok
("some stuff is happening and will say more when clear" or whatevs)
2015-12-04 33846, 2015
reosarevok
Ok :)
2015-12-04 33828, 2015
zas
ruaok: ping
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ruaok
pong
2015-12-04 33852, 2015
ruaok
this time the fix didn't have the cluster freak out.
2015-12-04 33833, 2015
zas
this morning, the issue was different, and in general the cluster don't switch when we restart ratelimit server (i can adjust setting if needed though)
ruaok: I would like to perhaps come with some [off] announcements like you have sometimes done, but obviously nothing that gives more away than we're at liberty to.
I need to go now to teach my Friday class, and there's a jam going down afterwards that I'm going to, so let me have it in the back of my mind and maybe I'll have something interesting to say later.
2015-12-04 33826, 2015
zas
i did changes in scripts so they use a config file (/home/search/mb_search_server.conf)
2015-12-04 33836, 2015
zas
if the config file is present, scripts read variables from it after variables were set in the scripts (so the behavior is the same as now if no config is used)
2015-12-04 33855, 2015
zas
plus various cleanups and scripts improvements
2015-12-04 33846, 2015
zas
one thing that will be hard to put in cookbook is the ssh authorized_keys with specific config for push/receive commands
2015-12-04 33805, 2015
ruaok
I see that tomcat doesnt have the softlimit support yet.
2015-12-04 33819, 2015
ruaok
which doesn't really make them drop in replacements for each other.
2015-12-04 33820, 2015
zas
yes, i didnt change svc run yet
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zas
i'm about to do that
2015-12-04 33834, 2015
ruaok
k
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zas
i just committed the ones from prod, but they'll be more templatized soon
2015-12-04 33824, 2015
zas
they'll use values from attributes for paths/users/etc...
2015-12-04 33828, 2015
zas
including limits
2015-12-04 33858, 2015
zas
so changing attributes and re-deploying the cookbook will update those
2015-12-04 33807, 2015
zas
then i'll add flags: indexer, indexer+search, search, jetty/tomcat
2015-12-04 33831, 2015
ruaok
I forget, does the search builder need to have more than the std amount of files open?
2015-12-04 33855, 2015
zas
yes, it emitted errors about too low value recently
2015-12-04 33856, 2015
ruaok
ah, nm. I see it now.
2015-12-04 33805, 2015
zas
not sure it is expected though
2015-12-04 33829, 2015
zas
i didnt dive in search server code internals yet (and i wish i haven't to)
data from total counts disappeared after I removed it, wtf
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Gentlecat
oh, that's right, `second` is reference to one of those total_* dictionaries
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legoktm
o/
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legoktm
ruaok, zas: how difficult would it be to upgrade the server that MediaWiki runs on to trusty? We're probably going to bump our PHP version requirements in ~6 months (so not urgent or anything)
2015-12-04 33807, 2015
ruaok
hi!
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ruaok
not too difficult I imagine. and zas ought to have time within 6 months. :)
2015-12-04 33802, 2015
legoktm
ok, cool :)
2015-12-04 33840, 2015
Gentlecat
alastairp: problem might be in the way timestamps are calculated there
ruaok: it would be great if we could sync to make upgrade to trusty when you are at DWNI, so you can eventually fix boot issues, i'll list machines to upgrade, and we'll see if upgrade is possible (or wanted), and we'll try to do the most we can while you are not too far. I'll try to prepare a todo list for that for monday meeting. I will try to get search
2015-12-04 33830, 2015
zas
server cookbooks ready soon enough, so we can upgrade dora/roobarb and put jiji into play
2015-12-04 33804, 2015
ruaok
sure.
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ruaok
that will need careful coordination, for sure.
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CallerNo6
legoktm, are you still around? Did you see my message about the wikidocs link on the wiki, by chance?
2015-12-04 33836, 2015
legoktm
CallerNo6: yes, nope, what's the question?
2015-12-04 33856, 2015
CallerNo6
(oh, also, "hi")
2015-12-04 33818, 2015
CallerNo6
The wikidocs link in the sidebar isn't working as expected.
2015-12-04 33808, 2015
CallerNo6
It works correctly in the preview (when editing the sidebar).
2015-12-04 33824, 2015
CallerNo6
Any thoughts?
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legoktm
oh, yes :P
2015-12-04 33845, 2015
legoktm
one sec
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legoktm
CallerNo6: try now?
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CallerNo6
magic!
2015-12-04 33812, 2015
CallerNo6
Was that something I should have been able to figure out on my own?
2015-12-04 33821, 2015
legoktm
Sorry, I broke that a few days ago when I enabled some caching, I missed that it was dependent upon the current page
2015-12-04 33835, 2015
legoktm
Probably not
2015-12-04 33817, 2015
CallerNo6
Well, I'm glad it was easy for /somebody/. Thanks!
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chirlu`
Leftmost: Any ETA for the Postgres extensions on rika?
