20:06 PM
zas
ahah, it was less obvious but static files are slow too on critiquebrainz
2015-12-06 34045, 2015
20:06 PM
zas
2015-12-06 34054, 2015
20:06 PM
zas
on chrome
2015-12-06 34045, 2015
20:07 PM
zas
2015-12-06 34010, 2015
20:08 PM
bitmap
does the HTML download quickly though?
2015-12-06 34038, 2015
20:08 PM
creature has quit
2015-12-06 34017, 2015
20:09 PM
bitmap
2015-12-06 34034, 2015
20:10 PM
bitmap
it'd be more strange if it were only certain files
2015-12-06 34041, 2015
20:10 PM
zas
144 MB/s for this one
2015-12-06 34008, 2015
20:11 PM
zas
it seems to me that's only concerning static files
2015-12-06 34018, 2015
20:12 PM
zas
2015-12-06 34036, 2015
20:12 PM
zas
215 711 6,83KB/s ds 23s
2015-12-06 34000, 2015
20:13 PM
zas
good old modem speed
2015-12-06 34028, 2015
20:13 PM
bitmap
let's see what happens if I change the file type, to rule that out
2015-12-06 34007, 2015
20:14 PM
chirlu`
It’s faster for me. I get the Picard image in 1.5 s, the MB static.js in 2.2 s.
2015-12-06 34031, 2015
20:14 PM
chirlu`
*common.js
2015-12-06 34051, 2015
20:14 PM
chirlu`
The js is four times the size of the image, though.
2015-12-06 34022, 2015
20:16 PM
zas
2015-12-06 34030, 2015
20:16 PM
zas
7 769 --.-K/s ds 0,002s
2015-12-06 34030, 2015
20:16 PM
Leo_Verto joined the channel
2015-12-06 34042, 2015
20:16 PM
mildused
Can someone summarize what this conversation is about?
2015-12-06 34049, 2015
20:16 PM
bitmap
2015-12-06 34008, 2015
20:17 PM
bitmap
got 1.00M 156KB/s in 5.9s
2015-12-06 34024, 2015
20:17 PM
zas
lol ...
2015-12-06 34032, 2015
20:17 PM
zas
eta 84s
2015-12-06 34038, 2015
20:17 PM
chirlu`
9.6 s
2015-12-06 34059, 2015
20:17 PM
mildused
I got 155kb/s at starbucks
2015-12-06 34013, 2015
20:18 PM
zas
not finished yet
2015-12-06 34029, 2015
20:18 PM
zas
max 13K/s
2015-12-06 34034, 2015
20:18 PM
chirlu`
zas: Do you see packet loss when pinging picard.musicbrainz.org?
2015-12-06 34053, 2015
20:18 PM
zas
1 048 576 12,7KB/s ds 91s
2015-12-06 34029, 2015
20:19 PM
mildused
ping averaging ~70ms for me
2015-12-06 34035, 2015
20:19 PM
mildused
50 bytes
2015-12-06 34002, 2015
20:20 PM
chirlu`
Ping 188 ms for me, no packet loss.
2015-12-06 34019, 2015
20:20 PM
zas
2015-12-06 34028, 2015
20:20 PM
zas
packet loss
2015-12-06 34035, 2015
20:20 PM
zas
here is the issue
2015-12-06 34057, 2015
20:20 PM
zas
but this isn't a temporary one
2015-12-06 34004, 2015
20:21 PM
bitmap
I wonder if other websites located at DWNI would exhibit similar issues
2015-12-06 34015, 2015
20:21 PM
mildused
Why not try their own site?
2015-12-06 34014, 2015
20:22 PM
mildused
What host is this?
2015-12-06 34017, 2015
20:22 PM
bitmap
2015-12-06 34058, 2015
20:22 PM
zas
2015-12-06 34029, 2015
20:24 PM
mildused
86 packets transmitted, 86 received, 0% packet loss, time 85127ms
2015-12-06 34029, 2015
20:24 PM
mildused
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 64.654/70.662/181.267/17.441 ms
2015-12-06 34045, 2015
20:24 PM
bitmap
I think you should provide some traceroutes to rob so he can send it to them
2015-12-06 34013, 2015
20:25 PM
chirlu`
From both ends, IIRC.
2015-12-06 34056, 2015
20:25 PM
zas
i tested few other sites, no ping packet loss, much better rtt <25ms)
2015-12-06 34058, 2015
20:25 PM
mildused
Any packet loss on an independent site?
2015-12-06 34002, 2015
20:26 PM
mildused
Sniped me
2015-12-06 34007, 2015
20:29 PM
mildused
zas, What about on a different network/ computer
2015-12-06 34023, 2015
20:32 PM
chirlu`
bitmap: Could you check if the production DB has a primary key for the place table?
2015-12-06 34012, 2015
20:35 PM
bitmap
chirlu`: "place_pkey" PRIMARY KEY, btree (id)
2015-12-06 34048, 2015
20:35 PM
chirlu`
OK, so it got added manually at some point, I guess.
2015-12-06 34016, 2015
20:36 PM
chirlu`
2015-12-06 34023, 2015
20:37 PM
bitmap
ah...
2015-12-06 34021, 2015
20:38 PM
zas
2015-12-06 34009, 2015
20:39 PM
zas
ah search servers ....
2015-12-06 34009, 2015
20:39 PM
zas
i do it
2015-12-06 34028, 2015
20:39 PM
ruaok
Send then to
2015-12-06 34011, 2015
20:40 PM
ruaok is out and about.
2015-12-06 34011, 2015
20:40 PM
zas
k
2015-12-06 34027, 2015
20:40 PM
zas
search servers freakinbg out again
2015-12-06 34033, 2015
20:41 PM
YatharthROCK_ has quit
2015-12-06 34029, 2015
20:43 PM
Bookzombie has quit
2015-12-06 34043, 2015
20:43 PM
Bookzombie joined the channel
2015-12-06 34034, 2015
20:49 PM
YatharthROCK joined the channel
2015-12-06 34052, 2015
20:54 PM
YatharthROCK_ joined the channel
2015-12-06 34010, 2015
20:55 PM
YatharthROCK has quit
2015-12-06 34006, 2015
20:57 PM
zas
search servers are back
2015-12-06 34019, 2015
20:58 PM
Leo_Verto has quit
2015-12-06 34007, 2015
21:11 PM
zas
down again :(-
2015-12-06 34022, 2015
21:12 PM
mildused
zas, What has been causing this recurring issue?
2015-12-06 34018, 2015
21:13 PM
zas
crappy code, and no one to fix it + unfinished work on a new solution
2015-12-06 34049, 2015
21:13 PM
mildused
zas, What is the new solution?
2015-12-06 34016, 2015
21:15 PM
zas
SOLR, though it will be a solution after it was finished and uber tested
2015-12-06 34047, 2015
21:15 PM
mildused
What is being used now?
2015-12-06 34055, 2015
21:15 PM
mildused
Elastic?
2015-12-06 34059, 2015
21:15 PM
zas
lucene
2015-12-06 34000, 2015
21:17 PM
mildused
Oh no wonder. Lucene is supposed to be used for embedding search in desktop applications
2015-12-06 34053, 2015
21:17 PM
zas
well, i dunno much about the history and reasons of that, but i'm very aware of the result atm ;)
2015-12-06 34030, 2015
21:18 PM
mildused
Is the SOLR implementation on github?
2015-12-06 34018, 2015
21:19 PM
mildused
Have you looked into ElasticSearch?
2015-12-06 34042, 2015
21:23 PM
ruaok
mildused: elastic search is a horrible technology that will fail on you the second you rely on it.
2015-12-06 34049, 2015
21:23 PM
ruaok
I strongly advise steering clear.
2015-12-06 34056, 2015
21:23 PM
ruaok
zas: how are things? can I help?
2015-12-06 34051, 2015
21:25 PM
zas
ruaok: ok for now, restarted
2015-12-06 34056, 2015
21:26 PM
zas
nothing new, hard to say if stopping indexer was of any help, it could have been worse with (or no) ;)
2015-12-06 34024, 2015
21:27 PM
zas
i'll restart it when load will start to decrease
2015-12-06 34016, 2015
21:28 PM
ruaok
I want to believe it was better. :)
2015-12-06 34033, 2015
21:28 PM
zas
:)) let's say it was !
2015-12-06 34010, 2015
21:43 PM
legoktm is now known as legoktm[NE]
2015-12-06 34028, 2015
21:49 PM
YatharthROCK_ has quit
2015-12-06 34006, 2015
21:56 PM
YatharthROCK joined the channel
2015-12-06 34027, 2015
21:59 PM
YatharthROCK has quit
2015-12-06 34039, 2015
22:19 PM
ruaok
search again, I'll go
2015-12-06 34013, 2015
22:26 PM
MajorLurker joined the channel
2015-12-06 34040, 2015
22:28 PM
sibilant joined the channel
2015-12-06 34007, 2015
22:42 PM
sibilant has quit
2015-12-06 34040, 2015
22:47 PM
YatharthROCK_ joined the channel
2015-12-06 34040, 2015
22:47 PM
YatharthROCK_ has quit
2015-12-06 34040, 2015
22:47 PM
YatharthROCK_ joined the channel
2015-12-06 34046, 2015
22:47 PM
YatharthROCK_ has quit
2015-12-06 34025, 2015
22:48 PM
CallerNo6
mildused, the solr setup is split into two GSoC projects.
2015-12-06 34050, 2015
22:48 PM
mildused
CallerNo6, great..
2015-12-06 34054, 2015
22:48 PM
CallerNo6
2015-12-06 34027, 2015
22:49 PM
CallerNo6
2015-12-06 34032, 2015
22:49 PM
ruaok
mildused: the assessment that lucene should be used for desktop apps is incorrect.
2015-12-06 34035, 2015
22:49 PM
CallerNo6
er, I might have that wrong, but that's the idea
2015-12-06 34044, 2015
22:49 PM
ruaok
solr and elastic search both use lucene
2015-12-06 34051, 2015
22:50 PM
mildused
I meant that Lucene would have better time handling custom requirements for low level access to Lucene APIs
2015-12-06 34021, 2015
22:51 PM
YatharthROCK joined the channel
2015-12-06 34021, 2015
22:51 PM
YatharthROCK has quit
2015-12-06 34021, 2015
22:51 PM
YatharthROCK joined the channel
2015-12-06 34030, 2015
22:51 PM
ruaok
the thing is that our use of lucense pre-dates SOLR and ES by years.
2015-12-06 34017, 2015
22:52 PM
Leftmost
weeksio has been busy for the past while now, right? Is he still contactable for questions on it?
2015-12-06 34008, 2015
22:53 PM
ruaok
he just dropped me an email that I haven't gotten to. lemme see
2015-12-06 34007, 2015
22:54 PM
ruaok
> I should have done a B.A. :-/
2015-12-06 34014, 2015
22:54 PM
ruaok
As opposed a to B.S.
2015-12-06 34027, 2015
22:54 PM
ruaok
that was essentially the gist of it. :(
2015-12-06 34037, 2015
22:55 PM
ruaok puts out the proposal to hire weeksio for a semester.
2015-12-06 34057, 2015
22:55 PM
Freso
2015-12-06 34009, 2015
22:57 PM
Leftmost
I'd like to get a sense of what's missing still and try to dig in to get it working. Gonna need to do it for BB too.
2015-12-06 34015, 2015
22:58 PM
ruaok
Leftmost: I'd love that.
2015-12-06 34023, 2015
22:58 PM
ruaok
let me know where to send choco/beer to!
2015-12-06 34051, 2015
22:58 PM
YatharthROCK has quit
2015-12-06 34052, 2015
22:58 PM
Leftmost
My mouth, duh.
2015-12-06 34058, 2015
22:58 PM
YatharthROCK_ joined the channel
2015-12-06 34017, 2015
22:59 PM
ruaok wonders if the postoffice knows how to route that
2015-12-06 34016, 2015
23:01 PM
Leftmost
Leftmost's Mouth, Montana I Think, United States
2015-12-06 34037, 2015
23:09 PM
LordSputnik
Leftmost: pong
2015-12-06 34036, 2015
23:10 PM
CallerNo6 would like to shadow Leftmost if he's looking into solr.
2015-12-06 34000, 2015
23:11 PM
Leftmost
LordSputnik, hey. Wanted to ask you about the button layout task. It's not clear from the description what you're looking for, and I was going to revise it and add some design tasks.
2015-12-06 34018, 2015
23:11 PM
LordSputnik
bitmap: also, static stuff for BB is incredibly slow, I managed 4-10 seconds by eliminating a 1 MB SVG
2015-12-06 34033, 2015
23:11 PM
LordSputnik
But our JS bundle is still taking 3-6 seconds to download
2015-12-06 34048, 2015
23:11 PM
LordSputnik
Leftmost: go for it, it's the task I'm least happy with
2015-12-06 34028, 2015
23:12 PM
Freso
drsaunders D4RK-PH0ENiX, please verify that you've gotten into the GCI mentor hangout. :)
2015-12-06 34048, 2015
23:12 PM
Leftmost
What were you thinking for it? Would it make sense to turn it into "revise layout of entity display pages"?
2015-12-06 34008, 2015
23:13 PM
D4RK-PH0ENiX
Freso: I got a lot of GCI mail list spam >_>
2015-12-06 34018, 2015
23:13 PM
Leftmost
CallerNo6, I'd be happy for it. I suspect it's something I won't have a chance to dig into until later in the week, but I can ping you.
2015-12-06 34022, 2015
23:13 PM
LordSputnik
I was going for "look at how users can perform actions in BB at the moment, and see if we could make it clearer what buttons do by moving them about a bit"
2015-12-06 34003, 2015
23:14 PM
Freso
D4RK-PH0ENiX: The hangout is not a maillist though. :)
2015-12-06 34012, 2015
23:14 PM
LordSputnik is going to add some testing tasks
2015-12-06 34019, 2015
23:14 PM
Freso
🙌
2015-12-06 34026, 2015
23:16 PM
Leftmost
Okay. Well, I'd like three main design tasks for us, each with at least two instances:
2015-12-06 34037, 2015
23:16 PM
Leftmost
Layout work on the main page (with specific criteria, such as displaying the requisite menus and branding, as well as providing discoverable actions and dynamic content based on what's happening in the database).
2015-12-06 34056, 2015
23:16 PM
LordSputnik
the home page?
2015-12-06 34017, 2015
23:17 PM
ruaok registered staticbrainz.org
2015-12-06 34033, 2015
23:17 PM
Leftmost
Layout work on entity display pages, with attention to clear presentation of data and indication of available interactions, especially editing.
2015-12-06 34011, 2015
23:18 PM
ruaok
brainz.io is available.
