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      • zas
        i tried to find in logs any clue but they look not very different from usual
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      • zas
        so, apart kicking search servers, we re-installed dora and roobarb, to 14.04 with search server deployed from cookbook
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      • zas
        i had to prepare the cartman upgrade, and moved the memcached daemon on jiji$
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      • zas
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      • zas
        we can see it takes 2 days and 6 hours for it to start evicting
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      • zas
        quite efficient, hits/misses ratio is not bad at all ;)
      • 2015-12-14 34812, 2015

      • zas
        i also re-worked a lot of scripts related to indexer and search servers
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      • Gentlecat
        is it recording only one server now?
      • 2015-12-14 34826, 2015

      • Freso
        ruaok | thanks for spearheading GCI, Freso -- ^_^
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      • zas
        to make them more secure, reliable, and easier to work with
      • 2015-12-14 34857, 2015

      • ruaok was pleased to see the high hit rate.
      • 2015-12-14 34807, 2015

      • zas
        Gentlecat: we can easily add more if they run a recent version enough
      • 2015-12-14 34809, 2015

      • Gentlecat would love to see what's happening on sakura ;)
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      • ruaok
        fin, zas?
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      • zas
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      • zas
        i'll add memcached module to its collectd conf
      • 2015-12-14 34820, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        right, I mean memcached
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      • Gentlecat
        nice
      • 2015-12-14 34826, 2015

      • zas
        and you'll have memcached stats in graphana
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      • zas
        i completed syswiki, adding dns aliases to it
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      • zas
        stopped the cluster spam
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      • zas
        i'll look into that later, too much mails
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      • zas
        apart that, a lot of minor things on servers
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      • ruaok
        thank you. :)
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      • zas
        fin.
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      • zas
        bitmap?
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      • bitmap
        zas: btw, we're getting some "could not translate host name "totoro.mb" to address: Name or service not known" from lolo and lobe
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      • bitmap
        ok, I'll go
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      • zas
        bitmap: point me to the logs so i can check when it happens
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      • zas
        perhaps during gateway failover (we had one this morning)
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      • bitmap
        early in the week chirlu` helped with performance-tuning the new query for showing auto-edits in people's subscriptions, and I got those changes deployed on beta
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      • chirlu`
        It’s not really tuned, though. :)
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      • bitmap
        well, the important thing is, the query actually finishes now :)
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      • bitmap
        I was thinking of ways we could address people not seeing edit notes, before we get a notification system, and opened http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-8676
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      • bitmap
        so I spent a lot of the week working on that, plus the linked ticket (MBS-4565 Search for Edits by editor notes.) and related autocomplete issues
      • 2015-12-14 34847, 2015

      • bitmap
        I also did a bunch of code review/merging, and got the new search server code running locally so I can hopefully start digging into that
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      • bitmap
        friday I got sick, still don't feel good today but I'll try to get as much done as possible
      • 2015-12-14 34811, 2015

      • ruaok
        which search server? Solr based stuff?
      • 2015-12-14 34822, 2015

      • bitmap
        yes, the new solr stuff
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      • ruaok
        awesome.
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      • ruaok
        fin, bitmap?
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      • bitmap
        I'll need to familiarize myself with in eventually, since it's tied in with mbserver
      • 2015-12-14 34816, 2015

      • ruaok nods
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      • bitmap
        fin.
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      • ruaok
        Gentlecat: ?
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      • Gentlecat
        well, as opposed to Freso, I'm sure that GCI is the only thing I've done this week
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      • Gentlecat
        a lot of stuff at the uni for the next few days, after that I should be free
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      • Gentlecat
        hopefully with get back to reviews and XMPP stuff
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      • Freso
        🙌
      • 2015-12-14 34851, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        fin. 🚴
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      • ruaok
        chirlu`: ?
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      • ruaok
        alastairp?
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      • alastairp
        I released the new sqlalchemy for AB
      • 2015-12-14 34859, 2015

      • alastairp
        not sure if I said that last week?
      • 2015-12-14 34815, 2015

      • alastairp
        anyway, we found some bugs with stats, but now we know the cause and have a fix
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      • alastairp
        we’ve released a version of the new beta site internally at mtg and are spamming it with submissions to make sure it still works, once that’s confirmed and we’ve rewritten data dumps we’ll do the migration for real
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      • alastairp
        current beta.ab -> ab.org
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      • alastairp
        that’s about it
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      • chirlu`
        I did some small things and started looking into URL display, to fix a double-encoding issue and add support for internationalized domain names.
      • 2015-12-14 34835, 2015

      • chirlu`
        Huge can of worms. :-/
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      • zas
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      • chirlu`
        I already found a XSS vulnerability and lots of other problems in the code.
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      • Gentlecat
        zas: thank you! :)
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      • bitmap
        zas: I don't see these in the logs, but I can tell you what times the emails are from (we just got one two minutes ago)
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      • chirlu`
        That will develop into a cleanup pull request with lots of commits at some time.
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      • chirlu`
        fin
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      • zas
        bitmap: forward one of them plz
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      • ruaok
        ok, anyone else?
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      • ruaok
        onward, gci, freso
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      • Freso
        Just a sec!
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      • Freso
        Ok.
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      • ruaok notes that he has a call right after this.
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      • bitmap
        zas: done (the bugs email account credentials are in syswiki if you want to see all of them :))
      • 2015-12-14 34841, 2015

      • Freso
        Yeah, I just wanted to take a proverbial second to talk about the past week.
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      • Freso
        We have had a bunch of students come by and I think the mentors are doing a really good job at keeping up with things. So thanks to all of you. :)
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      • opatel99
        And from us to you as well
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      • Freso
        I also want to think chirlu` and CatQuest and everyone else who have helped out here on IRC when mentors weren't readily available.
      • 2015-12-14 34852, 2015

      • Freso
        *thank
      • 2015-12-14 34803, 2015

      • Freso
        So far we have had a few presentations done in some class rooms, which has spread "the message" of MusicBrainz to impressionable young minds around the globe (or at least in India and England and maybe one in the US too?). :p
      • 2015-12-14 34843, 2015

      • Freso
        Some infographics have been made/are in the works, some wiki docs have been produced and put into use, a bunch of (small) patches across different projects, ...
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      • Freso
        A bunch of icons.
      • 2015-12-14 34814, 2015

      • Freso
        Oh, and a handful of CritiqueBrainz reviews!
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      • Gentlecat
        👍
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      • ruaok
        Freso: just keep going, since all the topics are yours. :)
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      • Freso
        I feel like it's been a fairly productive week, but the first week is also supposedly the busiest/craziest, so we'll see how things stay for the next few weeks. :)
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      • Freso
        ruaok: I know. :p
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      • Freso
        reosarevok also commented a bit in his review, but any of the mentors (or other people!) want to chime in with their thoughts on the last week/GCI in general so far?
      • 2015-12-14 34812, 2015

      • Freso
        Okay then!
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      • bitmap
        I don't have any deep thoughts, but I'm happy with all the new activity :)
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      • Freso
        Enabling more languages on beta! Freso, go!
      • 2015-12-14 34833, 2015

      • Freso
        Alright!
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      • ruaok
        :)
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      • Freso
        So we've enabled a couple of languages on prod. now.
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      • Freso
        Which is great! I love it! 🙌
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      • Freso
        But maybe this also means that we can lower our standards a bit for what's acceptable on beta.mb.o?
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      • bitmap
        sounds like a good idea
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      • chirlu`
        But not too much. It’s not a good idea to list lots of available languages that then have 5 % coverage or so.
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      • Freso
        So we can have a sort of "staging" area for things that are not ready for prod. mb.o, but also far enough along that the translators or other interested people might want to play with it using real data and not just on the i18n sandbox.
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      • Freso
        Yep. I don't have a good suggestion for what the cut-off point should be. chirlu`, do you have one?
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      • chirlu`
        No numbers, but when I look at the site in $language, it should feel like “most of it” is translated.
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      • Freso shrugs
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      • Freso
        I like numbers, but I'd be fine with that as well.
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      • Freso
        bitmap: Something you could live with?
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      • bitmap
        I'm happy to enable any languages people have a consensus on
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      • Freso
        And any objections? CatQuest, what are your thoughts on this? (I think you were the one who inspired me to add this topic to today's meeting. :))
      • 2015-12-14 34831, 2015

      • Freso
        Alright, so make a ticket suggesting some languages then? And chirlu` can pick which ones he doesn't like? ;)
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      • chirlu`
        It’d be good to have the i18n sandbox running again so that one can get a feeling for how much is translated or not.
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      • Freso
        Yeah. It's on my to-do, but everything's kind of been pushed back by GCI right now.
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      • ruaok prepares for his call and leaves Freso in charge with a reminder to have a look at the clock
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      • Freso
        Yep. I think Gentlecat cleared off most of the CB stuff earlier though.
      • 2015-12-14 34858, 2015

      • Freso
        Alright. I'll go with "Freso | Alright, so make a ticket suggesting some languages then? And chirlu` can pick which ones he doesn't like? ;)" then.
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      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews; CB-88 (Freso), DR: CB-187 (Freso), DR: CB-65 (Freso)
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      • chirlu` will object to all languages that can’t be tested before. :)
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      • Freso
        So I think CB-88 is mostly just that someone needs to write it, so let's skip that.
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      • Freso
        CB-65 I guess is what I really wanted ruaok's feedback on, but not sure if he's still around. I guess I'll ask post-meeting.
      • 2015-12-14 34851, 2015

      • ruaok looks
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      • ruaok
        I guess the question relates to if we want to even show releases in CB.
      • 2015-12-14 34801, 2015

      • ruaok
        and not just release groups
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      • Gentlecat
        I'm not sure if there's a point in showing releases if you can't review them
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      • Gentlecat
        because otherwise it would be just a wrapper for MusicBrainz page, which I think is not our goal
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      • ruaok
        zas: search is dead.
      • 2015-12-14 34802, 2015

      • ruaok
        please look?
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      • bitmap
        I think it makes sense to be able to review a specific edition of an album, but if you can't do that, then I wouldn't show them
      • 2015-12-14 34808, 2015

      • zas
        ok
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      • reosarevok
        It might make sense to show a list of "release events"
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      • reosarevok
        Labels, catnos and so
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      • reosarevok
        But not a full entry for each unless reviewable
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      • bitmap
        +1
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      • reosarevok
        Which I agree would make sense eventually to allow reviewing them
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      • ruaok
        as long as we've thought about what this means (seems like it now) I'm ok with it.
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      • Freso
        Alright. Let's close the meeting with that. I think the two other CB ones got clarified by Gentlecat earlier pre-meeting.
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      • Freso
        And let ruaok get on with his call. :)
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      • Freso
        Alright then.
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      • Freso
        </BANG>
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      • Freso
        Thanks for your time. ;)
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      • zas
        rate limit on 150 and they still do'nt start
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      • stanislas
        I've given a presentation today about MB, what should my teacher write about it ?
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      • Freso
        stanislas: You should upload photos or videos taken of you doing the presentation to the task.
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