I mean, that some random person has stuff (c) us is pretty wtf :p
2016-01-13 01351, 2016
reosarevok
(if these guys changed the name of their product *after* Zack's existed, that's also kind of a dick move)
2016-01-13 01318, 2016
ruaok
agreed. but no need to throw around unverified accusations and faux legalese.
2016-01-13 01331, 2016
ruaok
that shit really pisses me off.
2016-01-13 01314, 2016
ruaok tones down the language, adds a legal lesson, a nice fuck you note and hits send
2016-01-13 01332, 2016
ruaok makes the halo motion above his head
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reosarevok
I don't see a need to be angry in return once it was solved, but oh well :p
2016-01-13 01355, 2016
ruaok
I deal with enough of these thugs that their behaviour pisses me off. a lot.
2016-01-13 01309, 2016
ruaok
still dealing with the photographer dude. that's going to swallow more of my time.
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Freso
zas: I was thinking that maybe you could "casually" sprinkle the stickers on a table or other neat surface and take some interesting high quality photos of it that could be used for "banners" for e.g. Facebook and Twitter etc. :p
2016-01-13 01320, 2016
Freso
adesh JesseW (in case you read logs): I have a weechat client constantly running on a Raspberry Pi 2 (along with some other stuff).
2016-01-13 01312, 2016
zas
Freso: i'll do a search at home, but with (my) children around it may be more like an Indiana Jones quest. I tell you more soon.
2016-01-13 01306, 2016
Freso
zas: If you can't find them, let me know and I'll send you some of mine and convince ruaok to have MeB reimburse me the postage. :p
2016-01-13 01342, 2016
Freso
(Could be cool to have such a photo mixing the "old"/current stickers with the new smaller ones ruaok said he'd order next.)
2016-01-13 01330, 2016
zas
No need it was much easier than i thought, mainly because my children have a wonderful mother ;)
2016-01-13 01344, 2016
zas
Not sure though i have one of each
2016-01-13 01337, 2016
Freso
Yeah, it'd probably be nicer with a few more. :)
2016-01-13 01319, 2016
ruaok
zas: pingu is ready for upgrade, right?
2016-01-13 01302, 2016
zas
ruaok: pingu was set up as webserver, but after the yesterday's dagon issue, i would like to do a full re-install from scratch to test cookbooks and see if we can reproduce the issue.
2016-01-13 01307, 2016
ruaok
sorry, I wasn't clear. can I proceed with the ram upgrade?
2016-01-13 01322, 2016
zas
Ah yes, it is not used atm
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ruaok
k
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ruaok
and powered down, right?
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ruaok can't log in
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ruaok
chrisskye: you got a copy of the rental terms, yes?
2016-01-13 01354, 2016
ruaok
they are exactly as you said they would be. a perfect play out of their play book.
2016-01-13 01352, 2016
alastairp
meaning that they're not like they said verbally?
2016-01-13 01358, 2016
chrisskye
just sat down...yes I see an email...
2016-01-13 01357, 2016
ruaok
alastairp: we didn't discuss full rental terms yesterday. just rent.
2016-01-13 01312, 2016
ruaok
and chrisskye predicted that a pile of onerous conditions will be tacked on. they were.
aquarius: that looks like it's the artist of the release
2016-01-13 01314, 2016
ruaok
chrisskye: do me a favor and make a quick n dirty gdoc that outlines each of the points in english to avoid confusion? I think I understand them, but would like to be very clear.
2016-01-13 01336, 2016
chrisskye
ok
2016-01-13 01322, 2016
aquarius
alastairp, it does. But does the MB site assume that if there's no l_artist_recording row that it should get the artist from the release(s)? (I didn't realise this, so I didn't import the release table because my DB is already big enough ;))
2016-01-13 01323, 2016
Freso
ruaok: support@ - "Please forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. Thanks" :p
2016-01-13 01341, 2016
alastairp
Freso: china domains?
2016-01-13 01343, 2016
aquarius
if you don't know off the top of your head then I can of course try to track it down in the source, but I'm not great at Perl :)
2016-01-13 01344, 2016
Freso
Yep.
2016-01-13 01351, 2016
alastairp
Freso: we got one a few days ago
2016-01-13 01328, 2016
Freso
I can't tell if they're genuine or not. It seems a bit too non-shady to be a decent scam.
2016-01-13 01334, 2016
alastairp
aquarius: right, that's definitely the case. recording-artist credits are special cases
2016-01-13 01338, 2016
alastairp
Freso: google is your friend
2016-01-13 01354, 2016
aquarius
alastairp, goshdarnit. Off to import the whole release table then :-)
2016-01-13 01357, 2016
alastairp
and if they're not listed, it takes it from recording relationships
2016-01-13 01359, 2016
aquarius
Thank you!
2016-01-13 01310, 2016
alastairp
np. can't wait to see what you're building :)
2016-01-13 01312, 2016
aquarius
er. recording relationships? I may have missed that one...?
2016-01-13 01316, 2016
alastairp
I meant to say release relationships
2016-01-13 01323, 2016
aquarius
ah, ok, cool, cheers :)
2016-01-13 01350, 2016
aquarius
New policy, when I become emperor: Nobody is allowed to cover anyone else's song, or release a song more than once. :)
2016-01-13 01333, 2016
alastairp
"Oh, I know, let's just have an artist, album name, and track list. that'll cover all music ever released"
2016-01-13 01345, 2016
aquarius
that'd be so nice. :)
2016-01-13 01323, 2016
reosarevok
aquarius: recording artist is not taken from the release as such
recording has artist credit that has one or more names that are linked to artists
2016-01-13 01352, 2016
aquarius
oh, I need to go through artist_credit? ha, OK :)
2016-01-13 01306, 2016
ruaok
ha, yes. Gmail dutifully spammed that email, Freso. :)
2016-01-13 01314, 2016
aquarius
cheers reosarevok
2016-01-13 01347, 2016
reosarevok
Freso: not the first time we get this one either
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reosarevok
IIRC
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reosarevok
So yeah :)
2016-01-13 01330, 2016
chrisskye
ok. translation shared to ruaok
2016-01-13 01349, 2016
chrisskye
I need to read the actual contract. Nothing is fixed in stone...it is sure to be negotiable. I am not surprised about the request for extra deposits and references. Security is what the owner seeks.
2016-01-13 01317, 2016
chrisskye
going out to eat and for a walk in Collserola. I will check in later, and have a go at my task list
2016-01-13 01332, 2016
ruaok
chrisskye: enjoy the walk. looks like a fabu day for it.
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zas
chirlu`: i wonder about some translations ie. french "Modification no 4014447" for "Edit #4014447". In edit notes, one can write "Edit #4014447" and get this linked to the edit, but i guess it doesn't work for "Modification no 4014447". What would be needed for such feature to work in all languages ?
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MZinman
help
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MZinman
@ruaok: Hello Robert, this is Michael Zinman from Digital West. I have your ticket, T20160113.0017 open and am ready to proceed with the ram install. Is now a good time for you?
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ruaok
hi MZinman!
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ruaok
thanks for popping in.
2016-01-13 01343, 2016
ruaok
ready for a RAM upgrade?
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MZinman
Yes sir! How would you like me to proceed?
2016-01-13 01311, 2016
ruaok
ok, in the musicbrainz rack you'll find a machine named pingu.
2016-01-13 01321, 2016
MZinman
ok
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ruaok
it should be powered off, but just double check before you de-rack.
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ruaok
do you have the package with the new ram?
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MZinman
Yes, I do
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ruaok
if so, then un-rack pingu, yank out the old ram and put in new.
2016-01-13 01304, 2016
ruaok
there should be 6 sticks and 6 slots.
2016-01-13 01321, 2016
ruaok
in theory, and we know how that goes, it should be simple and straightforward.
2016-01-13 01338, 2016
ruaok
just go for it, I'll be watching from afar. ;)
2016-01-13 01313, 2016
MZinman
Haha, I understand! I'll let you know as soon as I've got the new sticks in and Pingu powered on.
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ruaok
thanks! :)
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chrisskye
ruaok:
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ruaok
yes?
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chrisskye
sent a reply to the gestor to say thank you for the information; we are reviewing it; has to be approved by the board before signing anything; we’ll be in contact
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ruaok nods
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ruaok
do tell, how does the guarantee differ from the deposit?
2016-01-13 01338, 2016
ruaok
a guarantee must be paid back if all rents are paid.
2016-01-13 01349, 2016
alastairp
there's 2 of them, so they can charge twice as much ;)
2016-01-13 01358, 2016
ruaok
and a deposit can be used to cover damage upon leaving?
2016-01-13 01307, 2016
ruaok
alastairp: that is exactly what it looks like.
2016-01-13 01353, 2016
chrisskye
The contact and fianza will be registered with the registry for these things. The other they likely will just give us a receipt for that promises to give it back after 5 years.
2016-01-13 01327, 2016
ruaok
so, deposit is registered and guarantee is direct?
2016-01-13 01305, 2016
chrisskye
It is like cash in hand to them, but they promise to give it back. It is something I’d try to avoid.
2016-01-13 01315, 2016
chrisskye
Offer to pay actual rent in advance instead.
2016-01-13 01316, 2016
ruaok
you and me both.
2016-01-13 01326, 2016
ruaok
because it sounds like a pain to get back.
2016-01-13 01336, 2016
ruaok
they can just make up endless excuses.
2016-01-13 01336, 2016
chrisskye
The paper might be legal, but yeah practically better to have everything registered...so if it is more guarantee get it as fianza registered too. Or, play the references and pay up front, but towards rent.
2016-01-13 01353, 2016
ruaok
I think I can ask a personal favor to one of the BMAT guys. local here, from catalunya, and can vouch for us being good people.
2016-01-13 01334, 2016
Freso
zas: I think MusicBrainz translation questions are likely better asked in #musicbrainz :)
2016-01-13 01355, 2016
chrisskye
k. gotta run.
2016-01-13 01300, 2016
ruaok
I think we can work the references in our favor. lets just assume that we'll dig up good ones.
2016-01-13 01308, 2016
ruaok
chrisskye: ok, have fun.
2016-01-13 01321, 2016
chrisskye
I’m not worried. Been vacant a year! Something is better than nothing for them!
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Freso
chrisskye: :)
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ruaok
exactly.
2016-01-13 01323, 2016
ruaok
we can always put an offer on the table, have it reject and then wait.
2016-01-13 01335, 2016
stanislas
LordSputnik: ping
2016-01-13 01302, 2016
MZinman
@ruaok: Hello Robert, I've installed the new ram in Pingu and am restarting it now. I have a triage cart hooked up in case anything *doesn't* go according to theory ;)
2016-01-13 01318, 2016
ruaok
awesome. :)
2016-01-13 01324, 2016
Freso
!M MZinman
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BrainzBot
You're doing good work, MZinman!
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MZinman
POST passed, at login screen now!
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ruaok
in!
2016-01-13 01338, 2016
MZinman
Thank you!
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Freso
🙌
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ruaok
we see all the ram. thanks much.
2016-01-13 01353, 2016
ruaok
can we ask you one more favor?
2016-01-13 01302, 2016
MZinman
Absolutely
2016-01-13 01315, 2016
ruaok
we have another machine that has the wrong distro on it.
2016-01-13 01334, 2016
ruaok
We need an Ubuntu LTS distro and clever me managed to install the wrong distro on it.
2016-01-13 01307, 2016
ruaok
could you download the right distro, write it to a key (maybe even a CD) and then do a basic install for us?
