11:25 AM
stanislas
Gentlecat: ping
2016-01-16 01630, 2016
11:25 AM
chirlu`
Perhaps it just fell behind like it has done repeatedly, for some unrelated reason.
2016-01-16 01608, 2016
11:27 AM
Freso
2016-01-16 01610, 2016
11:34 AM
Freso
opatel99: I just tried your script. It seems to give me an empty event/create page.
2016-01-16 01619, 2016
11:34 AM
Freso
(Ie., it doesn't seem to feed anything to it.)
2016-01-16 01639, 2016
11:49 AM
reosarevok
Freso: does he read logs? because he's not around
2016-01-16 01608, 2016
11:50 AM
Freso
reosarevok: He's said he does once or twice.
2016-01-16 01620, 2016
11:50 AM
reosarevok
Ok :)
2016-01-16 01627, 2016
11:50 AM
Freso
And I know he's not around. I have to type out his nick manually instead of tab-completing it. -.-
2016-01-16 01635, 2016
11:50 AM
reosarevok
ruaok / zas: forums should be kept for read-only somewhere unless we're importing history into discourse
2016-01-16 01608, 2016
11:51 AM
Freso
We could push archiveteam/bot at it.
2016-01-16 01611, 2016
11:51 AM
reosarevok
So I wouldn't say they're not important :)
2016-01-16 01626, 2016
11:51 AM
reosarevok
We could, but I'd like to have them available in a more user-friendly way
2016-01-16 01609, 2016
11:52 AM
Freso
Well, they're not important in the same way mailing lists and old IRC chat logs weren't important. They're important to keep, but they can be safely tucked away as static webpages.
2016-01-16 01626, 2016
11:52 AM
reosarevok
Sure
2016-01-16 01636, 2016
11:52 AM
Freso
2016-01-16 01639, 2016
11:52 AM
reosarevok
But until we have done that we can't just get rid of them :)
2016-01-16 01648, 2016
11:52 AM
Freso really should get his GPG set up again
2016-01-16 01603, 2016
11:53 AM
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2016-01-16 01603, 2016
11:53 AM
Freso
I agree with that.
2016-01-16 01641, 2016
11:53 AM
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2016-01-16 01634, 2016
12:00 PM
stanislas
LordSputnik, Leftmost: How are relationship_texts returned ? I can't find any entity on bookbrainz that has them.
2016-01-16 01653, 2016
12:09 PM
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews, DR MBS-8451 again (chirlu), Team page (ruaok), contacting all auto-editors (Freso/reo)
2016-01-16 01633, 2016
12:12 PM
zas
reosarevok: i think ruaok meant they aren't important since we are moving to discourse, archiving them as read-only is part of the plan
2016-01-16 01650, 2016
12:12 PM
Freso
(As I said. :))
2016-01-16 01654, 2016
12:12 PM
reosarevok
Ok, just making sure :)
2016-01-16 01620, 2016
12:13 PM
reosarevok
Did you find time to try the plugin, zas?
2016-01-16 01649, 2016
12:13 PM
zas
nope, not yet, but i could do it now, where is it ?
2016-01-16 01613, 2016
12:14 PM
zas
2016-01-16 01640, 2016
12:15 PM
reosarevok
I dunno, Freso probably does though
2016-01-16 01647, 2016
12:16 PM
Freso
reosarevok: zas already found it. :p
2016-01-16 01606, 2016
12:17 PM
reosarevok
haha. Didn't realise it was under meb so I assumed that'd be something else
2016-01-16 01603, 2016
12:23 PM
Freso
reosarevok: :) It was a bit cumbersome getting it there, since apparently opatel99 couldn't transfer ownership there straight from his own user. So we transferred to @Freso first, and then I transferred it on to @MetaBrainz.
2016-01-16 01631, 2016
12:23 PM
Freso
But I figured that'd be the best home for it.
2016-01-16 01626, 2016
12:24 PM
Freso
2016-01-16 01635, 2016
12:24 PM
Freso
I'll make a GCI task based on this ticket now.
2016-01-16 01655, 2016
12:24 PM
zas
installing a plugin causes a long downtime, since discourse web app needs to be rebuilt
2016-01-16 01635, 2016
12:25 PM
zas
this issues is known, but it looks like the discourse team didn't find a solution yet
2016-01-16 01619, 2016
12:29 PM
zas
2016-01-16 01654, 2016
12:29 PM
Freso
2016-01-16 01658, 2016
12:29 PM
zas
this way it will be easier to move redis from teto to another server
2016-01-16 01640, 2016
12:30 PM
zas
discourse downtime is around 10 mins when rebuilding
2016-01-16 01608, 2016
12:31 PM
Freso
:| But hopefully we won't need to do that too often once we go live-live.
2016-01-16 01608, 2016
12:31 PM
zas
in the future we'll need to add a maintenance notice when doing it
2016-01-16 01613, 2016
12:31 PM
Freso
Yeah.
2016-01-16 01612, 2016
12:34 PM
zas
Freso: ok it is back online, can you test ?
2016-01-16 01613, 2016
12:34 PM
reosarevok
Yeah, not the end of the world :)
2016-01-16 01604, 2016
12:35 PM
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12:35 PM
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12:35 PM
Freso
zas: Maybe.
2016-01-16 01606, 2016
12:36 PM
zas
not sure what will happen with accounts created before this change
2016-01-16 01655, 2016
12:36 PM
Freso
Yeah.
2016-01-16 01601, 2016
12:37 PM
Freso
Hence the "maybe". :)
2016-01-16 01626, 2016
12:37 PM
zas
do you want me to remove old accounts and we start over ?
2016-01-16 01601, 2016
12:38 PM
Freso
Possibly.
2016-01-16 01640, 2016
12:38 PM
zas
i'll start by your account, so you can re-create one
2016-01-16 01643, 2016
12:38 PM
Freso
Oh.
2016-01-16 01645, 2016
12:38 PM
Freso
No.
2016-01-16 01647, 2016
12:38 PM
Freso
Wait.
2016-01-16 01629, 2016
12:40 PM
zas
lol too late
2016-01-16 01635, 2016
12:40 PM
Freso
Okay.
2016-01-16 01655, 2016
12:40 PM
Freso
Well, you'll have to go enable the OAuth MB login then, because right now it only does user/pass auth.
2016-01-16 01656, 2016
12:40 PM
zas
i think it is better to start over and do a full auth test
2016-01-16 01607, 2016
12:41 PM
zas
huh?
2016-01-16 01612, 2016
12:41 PM
zas
ok let me check
2016-01-16 01627, 2016
12:41 PM
Freso
Hence why I wanted you to wait so I could have looked into it myself :)
2016-01-16 01605, 2016
12:42 PM
ruaok
Freso: MEB-45 looks fine. Im sure that will generate more questions, but that is the gist of it.
2016-01-16 01634, 2016
12:42 PM
ruaok
reosarevok, Freso : for the autoeditors bit... I have a list over at groups.io for the the board discussion.
2016-01-16 01649, 2016
12:42 PM
ruaok
I could create one for autoeditors until we get discuss moving
2016-01-16 01602, 2016
12:43 PM
Freso
reosarevok: ^
2016-01-16 01603, 2016
12:43 PM
reosarevok
Let's talk it on Monday
2016-01-16 01610, 2016
12:43 PM
Freso
Yeah.
2016-01-16 01611, 2016
12:43 PM
zas
What should go in oauth2 client id and oauth2 client secret ? random strings or ?
2016-01-16 01620, 2016
12:43 PM
reosarevok
Given zas and Freso are already looking at discourse stuff, maybe we don't need hacks :)
2016-01-16 01635, 2016
12:43 PM
Freso
zas: Uh. That's a good question.
2016-01-16 01637, 2016
12:43 PM
ruaok
reosarevok: agreed. I was just suggesting for the very short term.
2016-01-16 01642, 2016
12:43 PM
reosarevok
(I do wonder if an a-e only section in discourse would be appropriate or not though)
2016-01-16 01648, 2016
12:43 PM
Freso
I'd ask opatel99, but he's not around. luks maybe?
2016-01-16 01603, 2016
12:44 PM
reosarevok
I know :) I cancelled that election for a bit though, so no huge hurry. Thanks ruaok: )
2016-01-16 01618, 2016
12:44 PM
Freso
reosarevok: Maybe an AE read-only-for-others section?
2016-01-16 01632, 2016
12:44 PM
Freso
Similar to the mailing list where only AE's can write, but everyone can read.
2016-01-16 01636, 2016
12:44 PM
reosarevok
Was the a-e list logged?
2016-01-16 01639, 2016
12:44 PM
Freso
Yes.
2016-01-16 01641, 2016
12:44 PM
reosarevok
Hmm, ok. In that case that'd work
2016-01-16 01650, 2016
12:44 PM
reosarevok
I kinda thought it was private :D
2016-01-16 01657, 2016
12:44 PM
reosarevok hopes he never insulted anyone too much :p
2016-01-16 01600, 2016
12:45 PM
zas
i fear that if i enable it i will lose the access to the admin panel.
2016-01-16 01602, 2016
12:45 PM
Freso
;)
2016-01-16 01601, 2016
12:46 PM
Freso
zas: Enabling it shouldn't disable normal user/pass auth by itself.
2016-01-16 01615, 2016
12:46 PM
Freso
(I think that needs to be done separately.)
2016-01-16 01620, 2016
12:46 PM
zas
k
2016-01-16 01614, 2016
12:47 PM
Freso
opatel99 was really good at not doing hardcoded config, so it can be used by any Discourse install out there.
2016-01-16 01632, 2016
12:50 PM
zas
Freso: mb oauth is enabled, but it needs that cliend id and secret
2016-01-16 01612, 2016
12:51 PM
Freso
zas: I wonder if that's given in mb.o's config file?
2016-01-16 01622, 2016
12:51 PM
zas
perhaps
2016-01-16 01638, 2016
12:51 PM
zas
i have to go out for a while, bb in ~20 mins
2016-01-16 01625, 2016
12:55 PM
Freso
Yeah, I need to head out for a family birthday. I'll be back later (than ~20 minutes).
2016-01-16 01642, 2016
13:00 PM
chirlu`
I’m not sure, but you may have to request the secret from MBS.
2016-01-16 01602, 2016
13:01 PM
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13:16 PM
zas
ruaok: are you around?
2016-01-16 01611, 2016
13:16 PM
ruaok
y
2016-01-16 01625, 2016
13:16 PM
zas
i found smt i would like we explain
2016-01-16 01655, 2016
13:16 PM
zas
2016-01-16 01610, 2016
13:17 PM
zas
pingu uses much less connections than other servers
2016-01-16 01624, 2016
13:17 PM
zas
but yesterday i set up another stat
2016-01-16 01638, 2016
13:17 PM
zas
2016-01-16 01656, 2016
13:17 PM
zas
compare pingu ws response time to other servers
2016-01-16 01615, 2016
13:18 PM
zas
2016-01-16 01629, 2016
13:18 PM
zas
on pingu mean is ~0.1 ms
2016-01-16 01651, 2016
13:18 PM
zas
on astro (and others) ~0.7ms
2016-01-16 01601, 2016
13:19 PM
zas
i think both are related
2016-01-16 01637, 2016
13:19 PM
zas
so the question is: what is different on pingu that may result in this ?
2016-01-16 01612, 2016
13:20 PM
zas
can you help me to find more about this ?
2016-01-16 01627, 2016
13:20 PM
zas
it is perhaps related to hardware
2016-01-16 01645, 2016
13:20 PM
zas
but i think it is more likely to be a software difference
2016-01-16 01627, 2016
13:22 PM
ruaok
I agree. It can't be hardware.
2016-01-16 01636, 2016
13:22 PM
ruaok
pingu & astro are the same mobo.
2016-01-16 01645, 2016
13:22 PM
ruaok
as are dora & roobarb.
2016-01-16 01603, 2016
13:23 PM
ruaok
asterix is an older machine, closer to lobe/jiji/sakura/dagon
2016-01-16 01614, 2016
13:24 PM
zas
pingu has the same mb, but firmware is more recent
2016-01-16 01630, 2016
13:24 PM
zas
2016-01-16 01645, 2016
13:24 PM
zas
vs
2016-01-16 01653, 2016
13:24 PM
zas
2016-01-16 01601, 2016
13:25 PM
zas
on astro
2016-01-16 01613, 2016
13:25 PM
zas
but i don't think it can be that
2016-01-16 01634, 2016
13:25 PM
ruaok
none of these graphs make much sense.
2016-01-16 01640, 2016
13:26 PM
zas
perhaps something with default sysctl values
2016-01-16 01642, 2016
13:26 PM
ruaok
the only possible explanation, which I can't explain why, is that pingu has more ram.
2016-01-16 01601, 2016
13:27 PM
ruaok
otherwise it is software and nothing else.
2016-01-16 01607, 2016
13:27 PM
zas
8Gb more can make a difference yes
2016-01-16 01613, 2016
13:27 PM
ruaok
are all 4 running the same kernel?
2016-01-16 01639, 2016
13:27 PM
zas
yes
2016-01-16 01651, 2016
13:27 PM
zas
well, i only compare astro & pingu for now
2016-01-16 01621, 2016
13:28 PM
zas
same system, same kernel, and i upgraded lobe this morning, no change in graphs
2016-01-16 01602, 2016
13:29 PM
zas
more ram means perhaps different sysctl default values, since kernel is using ram amount to calculate some of those
2016-01-16 01626, 2016
13:29 PM
ruaok
I think we may need to diff sysctl values.
2016-01-16 01639, 2016
13:29 PM
ruaok
I never changed anything on the app servers, only gateways
2016-01-16 01640, 2016
13:29 PM
zas
yes, i'm about to do it
2016-01-16 01647, 2016
13:29 PM
ruaok
k
2016-01-16 01646, 2016
15:12 PM
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15:12 PM
opatel99
CallerNo6: Ping?
2016-01-16 01602, 2016
15:27 PM
zas
search servers
2016-01-16 01605, 2016
15:27 PM
zas
on it
2016-01-16 01643, 2016
15:29 PM
zas
opatel99: what are the needed values for client id and secret to setup mb oauth on discourse ?
2016-01-16 01645, 2016
15:31 PM
zas
search servers are back
2016-01-16 01641, 2016
15:32 PM
opatel99
zas: Whatever you get from the MusicBrainz Application setup
2016-01-16 01619, 2016
15:33 PM
opatel99
With the callback url like so: http[s]://discourse.musicbrainz.org/auth/oauth2_basic/callback
2016-01-16 01638, 2016
15:33 PM
opatel99
http or https. and change the url to as you wish
2016-01-16 01637, 2016
15:35 PM
zas
not sure what you mean, url provided doesn't exist
2016-01-16 01659, 2016
15:36 PM
opatel99
When you create an application on MusicBrainz, it asks you for callback url, right?
