still some pending comments there. but people have requested it several times, and now we need it for the sitemaps server
2016-01-18 01800, 2016
bitmap
other than that, I was commenting on Gentlecat's comms server google doc and helping deploy some server-y things with zas
2016-01-18 01808, 2016
bitmap
fin.
2016-01-18 01825, 2016
Freso
Gentlecat | I reviewed pull requests for MBS and CB. Fixed a couple of display issues on CB related to Spotify player.
2016-01-18 01827, 2016
Freso
Gentlecat | Continued to cleanup notifications/messaging gdoc, hopefully will write a draft of a blog post related to that.
2016-01-18 01829, 2016
Freso
Gentlecat | фин.
2016-01-18 01835, 2016
Freso
zas: Go.
2016-01-18 01807, 2016
zas
Well, i tried to get a useful answer from Gandi
2016-01-18 01841, 2016
zas
unsuccessful for now, it is about tests i made to find a way to get rid of our mail server
2016-01-18 01813, 2016
zas
We moved our DNSs to Gandi now
2016-01-18 01829, 2016
zas
It is much easier to make changes now
2016-01-18 01854, 2016
zas
I removed the encrypted swap on jiji
2016-01-18 01816, 2016
zas
it was useless and disallowed swap stats
2016-01-18 01801, 2016
zas
i worked with ruaok & bitmap to get pingu back, it is now, we have 5 web servers
2016-01-18 01849, 2016
zas
so i experimented few changes in the infrastructure, mainly using website-only web servers and web service only web servers, it looks promising
2016-01-18 01823, 2016
zas
but i discovered our website performance is very bad, and we'll need to dig into this to improve the situation before doing that change
2016-01-18 01800, 2016
zas
i also tried to understand the difference in response time we have between similar servers, namely pingu and others
2016-01-18 01825, 2016
zas
and for now, i excluded a lot of things, but didn't find the exact reason
2016-01-18 01851, 2016
bitmap
which reminds me that I haven't deployed mbserver on baron yet
2016-01-18 01801, 2016
zas
this is something interesting because pingu is just ... 10x times faster than others to answer to web service requests...
2016-01-18 01820, 2016
zas
bitmap: yes, we'll do it soon
2016-01-18 01818, 2016
zas
During those investigations i found another thing we can test, to improve performance a bit, it is related to private search, i'll not enter into the details, but it will be soon functionnal
2016-01-18 01849, 2016
zas
I wrote a logster parser to get proxy stats from mb servers
2016-01-18 01807, 2016
zas
And fixed issues after hoser crash and reboot
2016-01-18 01831, 2016
zas
I prepared the move of redis from teto to jiji
2016-01-18 01849, 2016
zas
That's all, folks.
2016-01-18 01859, 2016
zas
chirlu` ?
2016-01-18 01814, 2016
zas
alastairp ?
2016-01-18 01816, 2016
Freso
(reosarevok, CJ_, gcilou, alastairp, stanislas, chirlu` - who's around and wants to go?)
2016-01-18 01829, 2016
zas
reosarevok ?
2016-01-18 01832, 2016
reosarevok
I'm around
2016-01-18 01838, 2016
Freso
Go.
2016-01-18 01841, 2016
gcilou
( I can go next )
2016-01-18 01841, 2016
reosarevok
I did support and heavy editing like usual
2016-01-18 01802, 2016
reosarevok
I also watched gcilou's video a few times, looks pretty good now :)
2016-01-18 01807, 2016
reosarevok
And that's about it really
2016-01-18 01814, 2016
Lingo__ has quit
2016-01-18 01826, 2016
Freso
gcilou: Go :)
2016-01-18 01832, 2016
chirlu`
I didn’t do much MB-related. Answered some questions here and there, commented on a few tickets and pull requests. Fin.
2016-01-18 01857, 2016
Freso
chirlu`: 👍
2016-01-18 01859, 2016
gcilou
Well, I finished that welcome to MeB video and started and finished the release editor tutorial which i suspect will go onto YT tonight-ish
2016-01-18 01819, 2016
gcilou
And I just started a relationship editor tutorial which should be done this week sometime
2016-01-18 01831, 2016
Freso
🙌
2016-01-18 01853, 2016
Freso
Oh, next week's meeting is last meeting during the GCI.
2016-01-18 01854, 2016
gcilou
and am sad/happy about GCi being done next Monday :) Fin
2016-01-18 01819, 2016
Freso
Looks like no one else around, and we're not even at :30!
2016-01-18 01832, 2016
Freso
Plenty of time to for agenda topics. Excellent! :D
2016-01-18 01833, 2016
ruaok
you can keep helping out and being part of the community.
2016-01-18 01841, 2016
Freso
chirlu`: DR MBS-8451 again, go. :)
2016-01-18 01843, 2016
ruaok
it has been a pleasure having you aroud, gcilou
2016-01-18 01848, 2016
Freso
^
2016-01-18 01854, 2016
gcilou
ruaok, Thanks!
2016-01-18 01807, 2016
gcilou
It's been a lot of fun for me :)
2016-01-18 01810, 2016
chirlu`
So, there was not that much discussion on the ticket.
2016-01-18 01835, 2016
chirlu`
I limited the decision to Wikidata for now to make it simpler.
2016-01-18 01803, 2016
chirlu`
1. Do we want to convert all Wikidata http URLs to (otherwise identical) https URLs?
2016-01-18 01814, 2016
chirlu`
2. If so, should we use bot edits or directly UPDATE the database?
2016-01-18 01837, 2016
Freso
Let's do 1.) first.
2016-01-18 01844, 2016
ruaok
I think #2 was answered sufficiently last week, namely no.
2016-01-18 01858, 2016
ruaok
and I like the restricting of #1.
2016-01-18 01801, 2016
Freso
"should we do A) or B)?" ruaok: "no"
2016-01-18 01803, 2016
Freso
What?
2016-01-18 01804, 2016
chirlu`
No to both?
2016-01-18 01829, 2016
ruaok
sorry, no to direct updates.
2016-01-18 01857, 2016
Freso
Anyway, personally, I say "yes, we want to convert" for 1) and "make edits" for 2).
2016-01-18 01816, 2016
ruaok
+1
2016-01-18 01828, 2016
chirlu`
I’m undecided on 1 (but we should choose either http or https, not a mixture).
2016-01-18 01844, 2016
reosarevok
Hmm. I guess if we eventually want to get rid of WP links anyway, converting those is kinda pointless. I'd say yes for WD though
2016-01-18 01846, 2016
chirlu`
(as it is now)
2016-01-18 01801, 2016
chirlu`
reosarevok: It’s about WD only for now. :)
2016-01-18 01818, 2016
chirlu`
Regarding 2, I was in favour of edits but could also imagine UPDATEs now. However, it is more complex than edits (we have to take care of URL merges ourselves and limit the number of updates per hour).
2016-01-18 01852, 2016
chirlu`
What’s speaking in favour of UPDATE is that there is no “real” change.
2016-01-18 01830, 2016
bitmap
pragmatically I'd prefer UPDATEs and be done with it
2016-01-18 01808, 2016
chirlu`
(Unlike the Discogs transition, where they went from /artist/Some+Name to /artist/123456. That was a real change.)
2016-01-18 01809, 2016
bitmap
but if someone else is going to run a bot that enters all the edits, I won't object to that
2016-01-18 01824, 2016
ruaok
bitmap: +1
2016-01-18 01833, 2016
ruaok
"be done with it"
2016-01-18 01859, 2016
Freso prefers the bot approach, it's still a change even if it's minor.
2016-01-18 01816, 2016
Freso
Anyway.
2016-01-18 01837, 2016
Freso
Is anyone *against* updating all WD links to be https:// (regardless of the method)?
2016-01-18 01800, 2016
Freso
(Speak now or forever hold your tongue, etc.)
2016-01-18 01849, 2016
ruaok
let move on.
2016-01-18 01852, 2016
ruaok
+'s
2016-01-18 01852, 2016
Freso
Doesn't seem like it.
2016-01-18 01810, 2016
Freso
So we need to figure out the method.
2016-01-18 01825, 2016
reosarevok
from support: "I am trying to add releases to music brainz but i am uncertain how to do it.". Freso, is that video up yet? :p
2016-01-18 01831, 2016
Freso
Give it another week on the ticket to see if anyone steps up to make and run a bot?
2016-01-18 01847, 2016
Freso
reosarevok: I'll down-and-then-upload it after the meeting.
2016-01-18 01851, 2016
reosarevok
Ok :)
2016-01-18 01855, 2016
reosarevok
I think another week seems fine
2016-01-18 01805, 2016
Freso
chirlu`: How's that sound to you?
2016-01-18 01815, 2016
reosarevok
If nobody volunteers to run a bot before then or during that meeting, we can go with updates
2016-01-18 01822, 2016
chirlu`
Well, it needs work in any case, whether that’s setting up a bot or writing an update script properly dealing with merges etc.
2016-01-18 01855, 2016
chirlu`
(Or at least ignoring merges so that we can do those manually.)
2016-01-18 01826, 2016
bitmap
a script might be able to call into MB's data layer to deal with merges
2016-01-18 01847, 2016
Freso
Anyway. Lets let it simmer for another week.
2016-01-18 01858, 2016
Freso
ruaok: Team page, go. :)
2016-01-18 01828, 2016
ruaok
so, the team page on mb.org is horrendously outdated and needs to be fixed.
2016-01-18 01838, 2016
stanislas
Let's hope it's not too late yet. I've finally done Entity tests for BB, added dynamic display_alias, tests for it and added more info about albums on CB spotify mapping's page. It's all I remember doing :)
the question in my mind is this: beyond listing people who are paid by metabrainz, who else should we list?
2016-01-18 01826, 2016
ruaok
historical people?
2016-01-18 01833, 2016
Freso
stanislas: It was too late. ;)
2016-01-18 01833, 2016
ruaok
volunteers?
2016-01-18 01846, 2016
ruaok
where is the cut off for getting mentioned on the meb.org page?
2016-01-18 01849, 2016
chirlu`
stanislas: We won’t read it.
2016-01-18 01807, 2016
Freso
stanislas: ^ chirlu` is joking. :)
2016-01-18 01815, 2016
stanislas
Freso: ah :)
2016-01-18 01843, 2016
ruaok
thoughts anyone?
2016-01-18 01852, 2016
bitmap
people who have made more than X commits to MeB projects? :P
2016-01-18 01856, 2016
Freso
ruaok: I think meb.o should only list current employees. *Possibly* the volunteer heads of MeB projects, where the head isn't an MeB employee.
2016-01-18 01801, 2016
stanislas
Freso: If it's not too early, I've added your propositoin as 8th.
2016-01-18 01812, 2016
stanislas
Freso: You might want to take a look.
2016-01-18 01820, 2016
stanislas
Freso: I guess it's too early :)
2016-01-18 01824, 2016
Freso
stanislas: After the meeting please. :)
2016-01-18 01829, 2016
Freso
(Ie., in 15 minutes.)
2016-01-18 01835, 2016
ruaok
Freso: that's pretty good. bitmap's is pretty good too.
2016-01-18 01808, 2016
Freso
I like mine better. :p
2016-01-18 01817, 2016
ruaok
what if we list contractors and project leads on the meb.org page and then note significant project contributors on the specific project pages?
2016-01-18 01823, 2016
Freso
(I have actually given this some thought already.)
2016-01-18 01825, 2016
reosarevok
I would list only the team in the team page. That doesn't mean we can't have second "contributors" page
2016-01-18 01839, 2016
Freso
ruaok: Sounds good to me.
2016-01-18 01841, 2016
ruaok
sure.
2016-01-18 01846, 2016
Freso
reosarevok: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
2016-01-18 01855, 2016
ruaok
but then each project can decide how to manage its contributors page.
2016-01-18 01819, 2016
Freso
MetaBrainz.org is kind of a "company page" (as much as we may or may not like that), so having a bunch of "random" people listed is probably not what we want. :)
2016-01-18 01827, 2016
ruaok
agreed.
2016-01-18 01835, 2016
ruaok
is it too late to slide something like this in under gci?
2016-01-18 01808, 2016
Freso
No. :) I was considering just going for it when adding that other task.
2016-01-18 01820, 2016
Freso
ruaok: If you make an MEB ticket, I'll add a GCI task.
2016-01-18 01827, 2016
Freso
No promise that it'll be taken though.
2016-01-18 01828, 2016
ruaok
damn, beat me to it.
2016-01-18 01830, 2016
ruaok
ok, will do.
2016-01-18 01837, 2016
gcilou
( I may look into doing it )
2016-01-18 01838, 2016
Freso
There's only ~1 week left.
2016-01-18 01843, 2016
ruaok
onward!
2016-01-18 01843, 2016
Freso
gcilou: ❤️ :)
2016-01-18 01847, 2016
Freso
Yep.
2016-01-18 01854, 2016
Freso
Oh, reosarevok, this is us.
2016-01-18 01858, 2016
Freso
"contacting all auto-editors"
2016-01-18 01806, 2016
Freso
reosarevok: Want to introduce?
2016-01-18 01818, 2016
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: contacting all auto-editors (Freso/reo), WS JSON (ruaok)
2016-01-18 01827, 2016
reosarevok
heh, gcilou: I assume the person who just liked our FB page is your mom. Computer scientist too? We can use more volunteers ;)
2016-01-18 01834, 2016
reosarevok
Freso: sure
2016-01-18 01808, 2016
reosarevok
So, since the automods list is down, with all the others, there's no way for us to contact all autoeditors right now
2016-01-18 01816, 2016
reosarevok
(as I found out when trying to set up an election)
2016-01-18 01820, 2016
Freso
(10 minutes to go. ruaok, is it okay if we push JSON WS to next week, in case this one drags out?)
2016-01-18 01832, 2016
ruaok
sure
2016-01-18 01837, 2016
ruaok
might be quick, though.
2016-01-18 01845, 2016
reosarevok
It's not urgent, but we should find out a way to substitute the old automods list
