LordSputnik forgot the meeting was shifted in time by a day
2016-01-27 02734, 2016
LordSputnik
stanislas: I would prefer userscripts to an application. I believe that people are more likely to use userscripts on sites they commonly visit than download an application for importing data into BB
2016-01-27 02723, 2016
LordSputnik
Of course, that doesn't stop you making an application, but I would warn you that people probably won't use it (especially since the number of BB is still very low at the moment)
2016-01-27 02731, 2016
LordSputnik
*BB users
2016-01-27 02745, 2016
LordSputnik
stanislas: A more useful Python project would be to create a BookBrainz python client library (like pymusicbrainzngs)
2016-01-27 02731, 2016
LordSputnik
Since that will inspire other people to make applications (and you'd be able to use it in your own applications too)
stanislas: have a twitter username I can mentioned in a tweet about our tests from the official BookBrainz twitter?
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surtin
quick question... anyone know a reason why the slave.sh script wouldn't work through a cronjob but works fine when executing from console? i.e. run from console works fine, crontjob fails and creates files in / instead of the server home folder
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darwin
cron has different working directory
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reosarevok
LordSputnik: thanks :)
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div13
Hi guys, having some troubles setting up. 'npm install'
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bitmap
div13: you may need to update node.js to at least 4.0, and/or update npm to at least 3.0 (npm install -g npm@latest). if that doesn't help, you'll have to tell us the error you're getting
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zas
surtin: do you get any error email from the cron job? Ensure PATH is correct, cron jobs have their own environment.
2016-01-27 02720, 2016
stanislas
LordSputnik: I have an account but it is visited once in a year or so.
2016-01-27 02744, 2016
stanislas
LordSputnik: I don't see why user scripts would be used more often but I agree that bookbrainzngs should be a first step to making the application.
2016-01-27 02746, 2016
div13
bitmap: I managed to run npm install. I'm working behind proxy so it needed some tweaks. But running ./compile_resources.sh gives the following error: http://pastebin.com/z49SibDU
2016-01-27 02727, 2016
stanislas
LordSputnik: If I make an executable from this python code and I know that it is doable, I don't see why people would prefer using user scripts. The biggest disanvantage of user scripts is that they use information only from one website which significantly decreases the quality of data.
2016-01-27 02739, 2016
stanislas
I don't know how to install user script myself now (I know what is greasemonkey) but it isn't as easy as just clicking .exe. Everyone knows how to do that. Other options are creating a chrome extension or just a web app.
2016-01-27 02725, 2016
stanislas
opatel99: Names of US olympiads are so long. In my country it is OI(informatics), OM(math), OF(physics) for these 3 you've written :)
2016-01-27 02707, 2016
stanislas
opatel99: Register on CodeForces if you aren't already there (and I don't see you). Great site, much better than TC
2016-01-27 02723, 2016
stanislas
LordSputnik: this web app would be using client's resources apparently to make requests to the pages from which it would be pulling data
zas: Thanks, I would figure it out in a minute. I've installed them some time ago. I just don't remember how. I said that to prove the point that it is no easier than running some executable.
2016-01-27 02738, 2016
stanislas
* I would have figured it out
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stanislas
zas: Do you think it is easier than running some provided executable :) ?
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reosarevok
Well, our powerusers run userscripts all the time, and it's easy for them to go into the page they want to import and click import
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reosarevok
That doesn't mean an executable is bad, as long as it runs in linux too :p
2016-01-27 02743, 2016
reosarevok
But I wouldn't expect an app to import one entry - while I might expect an app to add a whole catalogue
2016-01-27 02747, 2016
reosarevok
So I guess depends for what :)
2016-01-27 02705, 2016
stanislas
It would be written in python so I will include .exe only for "dumb" users, running .py is the official way
2016-01-27 02757, 2016
stanislas
dumb = those who don't know how to install dependencies
2016-01-27 02745, 2016
stanislas
I know for a fact that a lot of people doesn't have even python installed on windows.
2016-01-27 02715, 2016
stanislas
LordSputnik, Freso: I've updated my GCI Experience document to include my converation with Leftmost, just as I said I would :)
chirlu`: reosarevok: thanks for comments on MBS-8757
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MonkeyDo
Hello brainzians
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alastairp
hey
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alastairp
haven't seen you around for a while
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alastairp
we had a launch meeting for audiocommons last week and the slides looked *amazing*
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ruaok
hola MonkeyDo. must fetch another cuppa, then maybe brain will work.
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MonkeyDo
No rush, ruaok
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MonkeyDo
Great to hear it, alastairp !
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ruaok will attempt to fake it
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ruaok
MonkeyDo: the goal for today, as I hazily see it, is to find a tweezer-like crowbar and insert some portions of the new design into the existing musicbrainz.org site.
2016-01-27 02705, 2016
ruaok
ideally to not change the actual structure of the site; change only the site framework and adapt the colors of the site.
2016-01-27 02723, 2016
ruaok
and ideally create a PR for review by the end of the day.
2016-01-27 02743, 2016
MonkeyDo
Tweezer crowbar. Roger that.
2016-01-27 02749, 2016
ruaok
also, a dozen unicorns neatly filed in their respective rainbow color preferences.
not sure if I can put that into more vague terms. I tried really hard. :)
2016-01-27 02715, 2016
MonkeyDo
ruaok: gotcha
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ruaok
let's see if we can tighten that up to make it into a realistic goal.
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Freso
alastairp | I wish I was not busy enough for gci -- Me three. It would have been amazing to have had you on the team for some AB and maybe LB things. :) Perhaps next winter!
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Freso
ruaok | ideally, and this is likely my job, we should start cooperating with libraries on a grander scale. -- Would love this. ❤️
2016-01-27 02748, 2016
ruaok
I've been making more connections on this front... as soon as chrisskye is up to speed and most critical battles that zas is fighting are taken care of, I can do that.
2016-01-27 02725, 2016
Freso
LordSputnik | Of course, that doesn't stop you making an application, but I would warn you that people probably won't use it -- Ḯ'm not sure about that though. *Most* users probably wouldn't (but *most* MB users also don't use userscripts), but if the interface of it is good, I'd imagine it might make it easier to import stuff into BB than a userscript could.
2016-01-27 02704, 2016
Freso
But then again, BB's Web API is much more powerful than MB's (at least in that it actually allows editing), so maybe a userscript could be written to do a pretty amazing job.
2016-01-27 02711, 2016
Freso
Or a browser plugin, perhaps.
2016-01-27 02705, 2016
Freso
stanislas | LordSputnik: I don't see why user scripts would be used more often but I agree that bookbrainzngs should be a first step to making the application. -- You probably don't want the "ngs" in the name... :)
2016-01-27 02735, 2016
Freso
stanislas | LordSputnik, Freso: I've updated my GCI Experience document -- please include link with such statements. I am lazy...
