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      • alastairp
        new headphones 👍. Ready for coworking space!
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      • ruaok
        we finally have 20 comments. that helps.
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      • ruaok
        alastairp: what did you get?
      • 2016-02-04 03512, 2016

      • alastairp
        audio technica athm50x
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      • alastairp
        they’re really closed. I’ll see if I can bear to wear them for more than 2 or 3 hours
      • 2016-02-04 03515, 2016

      • alastairp
        though the reviews I read seem to say that people can wear them all day for studio work
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      • ruaok
        or in the summer
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      • alastairp
        ahh, true
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      • alastairp
        damn barcelona
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      • alastairp moves to canada again
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      • ruaok
        ha.
      • 2016-02-04 03551, 2016

      • ruaok
        did you check their current weather. :)
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      • ruaok
        ?
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      • alastairp
        I’m scared to
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      • ruaok
        heh.
      • 2016-02-04 03544, 2016

      • alastairp
        hey, it’s >0C in montreal at the moment!
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      • ruaok
        today a friend introduced us to her friend: "I'm moving to barcelona. I got a plane ticket and selling all my belongings!"
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      • ruaok
        do you have a visa?
      • 2016-02-04 03505, 2016

      • ruaok
        no, but I have a mastercard!
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      • ruaok
        #facepalm
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      • darwin
        grooooooooaaan
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      • ruaok
        ok, maybe not *that* bad, but close.
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      • UmkaDK_
        Guys, a bit of a random question but how would I go about working out what artists are updated by a replication packet?
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      • ruaok
        UmkaDK_: the last_updated field is your friend.
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      • UmkaDK_
        ok, thanks ruaok!
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      • ruaok
        np
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      • ruaok
        now mind you, that tells you what artist table rows have changed.
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      • kartikgupta0909
        alastairp: Yes I plan to
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      • ruaok
        the artist last_updated field does NOT get changed when any of the data that belongs to that artist has changed.
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      • kartikgupta0909
        rather planning my masters in this field
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      • UmkaDK_
        Hmm … ok, may be I've started at the wrong end …
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      • alastairp
        kartikgupta0909: perfect. Ask me any questions you have about the different schools. I did my masters at McGill, and I know about many of the other ones. Gentlecat is doing his masters here at UPF
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      • UmkaDK_
        what I'm trying to do is verify that our cache entities are getting invalidated when replication updates an artist.
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      • UmkaDK_
        So i figured the easiest way to do that would be to take any replication packet, find one of the artists it updates, and compare it before and after the replication is applied.
      • 2016-02-04 03512, 2016

      • kartikgupta0909
        alastairp: actually I am bound to do my masters here because I was enrolled in a Btech/Ms Dual degree, But I have liberty of working with people outside my college.
      • 2016-02-04 03527, 2016

      • alastairp
        right
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      • darwin
        in mysql row based replication, you could do that... dunno re postgres.
      • 2016-02-04 03558, 2016

      • kartikgupta0909
        I did send proffessor Xavier Serra a mail for an internship under him, but didnt get a reply
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      • UmkaDK_
        The bit that I can't seem to work out is how to find an artist gid from the replication
      • 2016-02-04 03554, 2016

      • alastairp
        ah. He did ask me if you were interested in working with the CompMusic project when I told him that you were working with AcousticBrainz
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      • alastairp
        perhaps he got too many emails :) it would have been nice to have had you here
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      • kartikgupta0909
        alastairp: I agree, he is one of the tobmost names in machine learning in Music. And so is Dr Tillman weyde
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      • kartikgupta0909
        *topmost
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      • ruaok
        UmkaDK_: replication is keyed off artist row id, since it is internal.
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      • ruaok
        lookup the GID (MBID) from the artist table
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      • UmkaDK_
        So, for a replication record that looks like this: 232270470 f "id"='171042' "artist"='1325999' "name"='五十嵐孝司'
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      • UmkaDK_
        (that's just the start of the record)
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      • UmkaDK_
        artist id would be 171042
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      • UmkaDK_
        and `SELECT name FROM artist WHERE id = '171042';` should return that artist's name, right?
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      • ruaok
        in theory yes, but I dont have a DB to hand to check.
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      • UmkaDK_
        ok, no worries, I'm sure I'll work it out from here. Thanks again ruaok!
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      • milomak
        i am running debian and am having problems making unaccent in /opt/musicbrainz-server/postgresql-musicbrainz-unaccent
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      • milomak
        /usr/bin/install: will not overwrite just-created '/usr/share/postgresql/9.5/extension/musicbrainz_unaccent--1.0.0.sql' with 'sql/musicbrainz_unaccent--1.0.0.sql'
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      • chirlu`
        Sounds like the file is already there?
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      • milomak
        yes it is
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      • milomak
        but that happens when i run make install
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      • chirlu`
        I mean, the file seems to be in /usr/share/postgresql/9.5/extension already; i.e. it seems to be installed.
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      • Gentlecat
        alastairp: yes, I can confirm that we compile gaia in VM https://github.com/metabrainz/acousticbrainz-serv…
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      • chirlu`
        milomak: OK, that error message apparently indicates that the same copying tried to copy two different files to the same place.
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      • chirlu`
        e.g. “cp foo/foo bar/foo baz/”
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      • alastairp
        Gentlecat: yeah - we compile it, but not into the venv
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      • Gentlecat
        hmm
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      • Gentlecat
        oh, I guess I didn't use it after you set up that thing with venv
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      • milomak
        chirlu - it is the make file that tries to copy it there
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      • milomak
        so there is surely a problem with the make
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      • Gentlecat
        alastairp: have same headphones, had to get new earpads because default ones started falling apart after a year of use
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      • Gentlecat
        but otherwise pretty good
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      • alastairp
        Gentlecat: interesting
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      • alastairp
        european consumer protection laws :)
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      • chirlu`
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      • chirlu`
        Not sure what the status is.
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      • kepstin
        heh, I have an interesting set of headphones now, since my work stuff involves doing voip work and testing, but most voip headsets suck for music
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      • kepstin
        so I got a broadcast headset instead
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      • kepstin
        and a usb audio interface to connect it to :/
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      • kepstin
        (not a super high-end set tho, it's the Sennheiser HMD 280 Pro, which is really just their HD 280 headphones with a mic attached)
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      • chirlu`
        Interesting LWN article about Python looking into new solutions for holding discussions: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/674271/95beb9550cec…
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      • chirlu`
        They appear to have similar issues to MeB (mailing lists preferred by some and hated by others, e.g.).
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      • alastairp
        JonnyJD_: the weird thing about relations on browse queries is that the docs just say “all relations are available on browse queries"
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      • alastairp
        but looking at the code it’s apparent that very few actually exist
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      • alastairp
        one thing I dislike about our whitelist system is that an update to musicbrainz to allow something more means that we need to release a new version
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      • alastairp
        and so I’m a fan of being as broad as possible
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      • reosarevok
        Freso and others: MEPA? MEIA? (Musical Events Picture|Image Archive)
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      • reosarevok
        (yes, I still didn't decide on a name :p)
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      • reosarevok
        If you can decide something, whatever it is, tell ruaok to make a mail account for it :p
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      • stanislas
        LordSputnik: identifiers_uri doesn't show for this Edition: https://bookbrainz.org/ws/entity/32f78c16-39d0-45… but it contains some identifiers
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      • stanislas
        It shows when using /edition/
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      • reosarevok
        Freso: also, do I need to send a PR against the MeB repo to add my MB and Github links to the team page? Or are you maybe willing to ;)
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      • reosarevok
        Bed time for now :)
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      • Bookzombie
        New commits on pull request "Fixed BB-169 Identifier.update doesn't work properly." (https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-schema/p…)
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: No ideas for a name I haven't uttered already. And yes, please do a PR yourself. I don't have any more rights to the meb.o repository than you do.
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      • ruaok
        Freso: that book will get published after you write it. :)
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      • Bookzombie
        Merged: pull request "Fixed BB-169 Identifier.update doesn't work properly." by stasszczesniak (https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-schema/p…)
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      • Bookzombie
        LordSputnik pushed 4 commits to bookbrainz-schema: https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-schema/c…
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      • LordSputnik
        Leftmost: Leo_Verto: please vote on the style ticket ;) One more day until we run out of time
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      • LordSputnik
        stanislas: will look into it tomorrow, thanks :)
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      • Leo_Verto
        stanislas, just saw the email, thanks for adding me to bb-python :D
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      • Leo_Verto
        LordSputnik, done
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      • Leo_Verto
        night!
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