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      • Gentlecat
        Freso: what do you mean by layout?
      • 2016-02-08 03924, 2016

      • Gentlecat
        I'm trying to apply new branding without changing too much
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      • ruaok
        adjusting the letter heights to be a little less offensive is a <5% change. thats fine by me. but bigger changes may require a ton of really expensive work. I would really like to avoid that.
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      • Gentlecat
        I think it's pretty obvious at this point that just throwing bootstrap at the project is not a way go
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      • ruaok
        yep, we leaned that a couple of summers ago.
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      • Gentlecat
        it took me ~6 hours to make this
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      • ruaok
        :(
      • 2016-02-08 03903, 2016

      • ruaok
        once we get more of our templating mess sorted, we can have a look at a proper bootstrap conversion.
      • 2016-02-08 03907, 2016

      • Gentlecat
        I don't think it's bad considering how long we were trying to do this
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      • Gentlecat
        do we actually need bootstrap?
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      • ruaok
        it would be nice for all of our sites to use the same consistent UI elements.
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      • Gentlecat
        I don't see much benefits in it apart from grid system
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      • Gentlecat
        the rest just adds more work to make it look less generic
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      • ruaok
        I'm open to whatever.
      • 2016-02-08 03922, 2016

      • Gentlecat
        yes, I agree about consistency
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      • ruaok
        we just need to take small steps.
      • 2016-02-08 03908, 2016

      • ruaok
        that last attempt to bring bootstrap in was done in massive steps and pretty much failed because we could not review the changes. they were too massive.
      • 2016-02-08 03930, 2016

      • Gentlecat
        that's why I'm not trying to change anything apart from that header
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      • Gentlecat
        I think that's more than enough for now
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      • ruaok
        +1
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      • ruaok
        agreed.
      • 2016-02-08 03930, 2016

      • ruaok
        and keep in mind, that this is the beginning of the road, not the end.
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      • Freso
        Gentlecat: "what do you mean by layout?" - moving menu items around. (E.g., I don't agree with removing "blog" completely from the main menu entirely, so let's not do that, and let's also take the discussion about it once we've rolled the first iteration out.)
      • 2016-02-08 03903, 2016

      • Gentlecat
        ah, ok
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      • LordSputnik
        I'm not sure there is a gradual way to convert to bootstrap, apart from a rewrite :P
      • 2016-02-08 03931, 2016

      • Freso
        LordSputnik: I'm currently debating with myself on whether I should try to get a GCI blog out ASAP once Google's made their post (in which case it would be nice if BB could wait until tomorrow), or if it'd better to make the GCI blog post to hit around noon or something tomorrow.
      • 2016-02-08 03944, 2016

      • Freso
        I think I'm leaning towards the latter, so go ahead with the BB post. :)
      • 2016-02-08 03905, 2016

      • LordSputnik
        Freso: no problem either way, I'll get started writing it
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        zas: in order to migrate to google apps, we need to:
      • 2016-02-08 03921, 2016

      • ruaok
        1) make a list of aliases we need to create. do we have already?
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      • ruaok
        2) creat the aliases. Caveats: max 30 aliases per user, (should be fine) and >It can take up to 24 hours for the alias to become available.
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      • ruaok
        3) figure out how to deal with musicbrainz.org email. The google apps domain is for use with metabrainz.org
      • 2016-02-08 03951, 2016

      • ruaok
        hopefully we can get started on this today.
      • 2016-02-08 03925, 2016

      • Freso
        Should we all switch using that then?
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      • Freso
        +to
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      • ruaok
        not just yet.
      • 2016-02-08 03937, 2016

      • ruaok
        we need to carefully manage the transition to the new setup to avoid bouncing emails.
      • 2016-02-08 03912, 2016

      • ruaok
        and once we get setup, if people have created separate, but still private, email accounts for their metabrainz work, those can be migrated into the google apps setup.
      • 2016-02-08 03935, 2016

      • ruaok
        and then we can freely and easily give anyone a metabrainz account.
      • 2016-02-08 03947, 2016

      • ruaok
        *that* will make me feel more professional and grown up. :)
      • 2016-02-08 03958, 2016

      • ruaok
        ok, not grown up. adulting harder.
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      • zas
        ruaok: about http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBH-424, do we use SNMP for anything atm ? I mean it is running on some machines, but not all, and afaik we don't use the data provided at all.
      • 2016-02-08 03948, 2016

      • ruaok
        That might very well be a hangover from the old stats system.
      • 2016-02-08 03929, 2016

      • ruaok
        Try shutting down the daemon?
      • 2016-02-08 03939, 2016

      • ruaok
        If nothing break, close the port?
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      • ruaok misses GCI
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      • ruaok
        it is so quiet in here.
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: look at your mail. Answer someone. Stuff is going on. Buy chocolate.
      • 2016-02-08 03902, 2016

      • reosarevok
        Better? :p
      • 2016-02-08 03952, 2016

      • ruaok shakes his head
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      • reosarevok
        :)
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      • Freso
        !m reosarevok
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      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, reosarevok!
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      • CJ_
        !m CJ_
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      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, CJ_!
      • 2016-02-08 03902, 2016

      • CJ_
        :)
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      • ruaok
        CJ_: how are things on the solr front?
      • 2016-02-08 03900, 2016

      • ruaok
        do we need to rally the troops for more testing?
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      • ruaok
        what is our next step?
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      • CJ_
        ruaok, Slow. I have not had much time to work on it. Logging is not working correctly and I am not sure why.
      • 2016-02-08 03946, 2016

      • CJ_
        Once I figure out why the results are not returning correctly it should be ready for testing.
      • 2016-02-08 03937, 2016

      • CJ_
        The problem appears to be in the mbjson format code as you can return all of the data when using regular solr formats.
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      • ruaok
        ok, remember that lots of people here have lots of random knowledge.
      • 2016-02-08 03932, 2016

      • ruaok
        meaning that if you can't figure out a thing, such as the logging stuff, it can't hurt to ask here.
      • 2016-02-08 03915, 2016

      • CJ_
        The logging has something to do with the way mineio set it up. I had it working with the base solr install but when I pointed things to his mbssss it stopped working.
      • 2016-02-08 03939, 2016

      • CJ_
        Most of my time is trying to figure out what he did.
      • 2016-02-08 03957, 2016

      • ruaok
        ha. sadly he's not around ATM.
      • 2016-02-08 03935, 2016

      • Freso
        CJ_: Do you have his e-mail?
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      • CJ_
        Freso, Maybe? I have already talked to him about it. Mainly I just need to finish tracing through the code as that will give me a better understanding.
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      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews, GCI (Freso), DR: MBS-4502 (reo), MBS-8542 (reo)
      • 2016-02-08 03952, 2016

      • ruaok
        alastairp: do you want your own full gmail acccount for alastair@ (allows you to send from @metabrainz) or should I continue to forward to UPF?
      • 2016-02-08 03919, 2016

      • Freso
        CJ_: Will you be around tonight? (Aka, 6-hour-advance-pre-ping. ;))
      • 2016-02-08 03958, 2016

      • CJ_
        For the meeting? Yes?
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      • ruaok
        zas: how do we handle musicbrainz.org redirects?
      • 2016-02-08 03957, 2016

      • ruaok
        have gandi do a wholesale redirect?
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      • zas
        I think it has, let me check
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      • Freso
        CJ_: For the meeting. :)
      • 2016-02-08 03910, 2016

      • CJ_
        Yes, I should be here. :)
      • 2016-02-08 03921, 2016

      • ruaok
        Leftmost, LordSputnik: I'm creating google apps email boxes for people.
      • 2016-02-08 03929, 2016

      • ruaok
        for use with @metabrainz.org
      • 2016-02-08 03940, 2016

      • ruaok
        I've already created leftmost.
      • 2016-02-08 03912, 2016

      • ruaok
        well, I guess I should really ask this first.
      • 2016-02-08 03922, 2016

      • ruaok
        are you guys happy with the current bookbrainz mail setup?
      • 2016-02-08 03929, 2016

      • ruaok
        if not, who wants a @metabrainz account?
      • 2016-02-08 03901, 2016

      • ruaok
        in fact, that offer is open to all the regular suspect.
      • 2016-02-08 03903, 2016

      • ruaok
        +s
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      • ruaok
        chirlu`: ?
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      • reosarevok
        Christ, a third google account :p
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      • ruaok
        you only have two??
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      • reosarevok
        Two that I use at the same time and need to keep open at all times, yes :p
      • 2016-02-08 03944, 2016

      • ruaok
        (you can always just set forwarding, and leave it be after that)
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      • reosarevok
        (my normal one and my school one)
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: did you make support mail come here instead?
      • 2016-02-08 03931, 2016

      • reosarevok
        I think it's a good idea for me to get support mail clearly separate from my other stuff anyway, so I can see it :p
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      • ruaok
        yes, that is my next task.
      • 2016-02-08 03906, 2016

      • reosarevok
        (I get tons of mail so that's why I sometimes miss some)
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      • ruaok
        to make apps group aliases for these things.
      • 2016-02-08 03908, 2016

      • reosarevok
        Ok :)
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      • dddd
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      • dddd
        listenbrainz??
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      • dddd
        i'm stuck at code chef
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      • ruaok
        yes.
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      • dddd
        Failed to list data bag items in data bag: "ssh_known_hosts"
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      • dddd
        at step 2 (kitchen converge)
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      • ruaok
        have you done a "kitchen converage" ?
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      • dddd
        Failed to list data bag items in data bag: "ssh_known_hosts"
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      • dddd
        i cn send u log?
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      • ruaok
        yes, please. use gist.github.com please
      • 2016-02-08 03919, 2016

      • dddd
        ok
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      • dddd
        thanks
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      • dddd
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      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: seems to be working
      • 2016-02-08 03907, 2016

      • ruaok
        Gentlecat: great.
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      • ruaok
        dddd: I've never seen that problem before.
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      • ruaok
        have you tried running converge a second time?
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      • dddd
        yep
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      • dddd
        same
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      • dddd
        i'm on windows 10
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      • dddd
        is it a problem?
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      • ruaok
        not sure if that matters.
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      • ruaok
        In theory is shoudn't but I haven't run windows in eons.
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      • ruaok
        anyone here know how to help dddd ?
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      • dddd
        actually normal environment is preferable to me
      • 2016-02-08 03954, 2016

      • dddd
        rather than virtualbox
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      • dddd
        but no documantation
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      • dddd
        is anyone with windows??
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      • Gentlecat
        shouldn't be relevant since it runs in a VM
      • 2016-02-08 03918, 2016

      • samithaj
        my VM can start seperately
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      • samithaj
        but what is username password
      • 2016-02-08 03938, 2016

      • Leo_Verto
        Gentlecat, hmm, is there no way you could get all the links and the search into the navbar?
      • 2016-02-08 03943, 2016

      • samithaj
        i'm ddd from before