that was geared at everyone, but thanks, bitmap :)
2016-02-08 03917, 2016
Leo_Verto
anyone want to continue talking about ideas for a beginner/artist interface now?
2016-02-08 03900, 2016
reosarevok
I kinda need to sleep soon
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
LordSputnik
Leo_Verto: Oh yeah, I forgot
2016-02-08 03931, 2016
LordSputnik
Not now, BB release :P
2016-02-08 03935, 2016
reosarevok
But I'd love to talk about that stuff
2016-02-08 03906, 2016
Leo_Verto
I feel like this would probably work together with the new UX stuff
2016-02-08 03922, 2016
chirlu`
Can we take down the banner now, BTW?
2016-02-08 03929, 2016
reosarevok
chirlu`: I think so
2016-02-08 03936, 2016
reosarevok
I'll do that
2016-02-08 03904, 2016
Leo_Verto
maybe a big getting started link, some kind of popup after a new registration?
2016-02-08 03913, 2016
chrisskye
I’d love to see a simplified option for data entry for artists entering their own material.
2016-02-08 03929, 2016
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Leo_Verto
the way I see it there are two options: designing an entirely new interface or guiding a new user through the existing one
2016-02-08 03953, 2016
Leo_Verto
for artists the former would probably be better
2016-02-08 03904, 2016
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Leo_Verto
yet another question is whether you'd want to do that on mb.org or create a dedicated client for it (like stanislas is planning to do for BB)
2016-02-08 03906, 2016
Leo_Verto
that could allow for more easily accessible importing options and not clutter up the site so much
2016-02-08 03946, 2016
LordSputnik
Leo_Verto: make one for BB :D
2016-02-08 03905, 2016
Leo_Verto
a client?
2016-02-08 03920, 2016
stanislas
LordSputnik: check PM please
2016-02-08 03926, 2016
LordSputnik
No a web Q/A editing interface :)
2016-02-08 03931, 2016
Leo_Verto
Ah
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Leo_Verto
Eh, GSoC maybe? :P
2016-02-08 03906, 2016
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LordSputnik
Leo_Verto: depends if I get to it first :P
2016-02-08 03953, 2016
LordSputnik
But actually, that'd be a great GSoC task for BB, so I might intentionally leave it
2016-02-08 03935, 2016
LordSputnik
bitmap: Gentlecat: you guys might know this - is the mentoring for GSoC more or less time-intensive than for GCI?
2016-02-08 03916, 2016
reosarevok
Well, it's more long-term
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
reosarevok
So at least there's less of the "this needs to be checked today" thing I think
2016-02-08 03947, 2016
reosarevok
But an actual mentor can tell you more I guess yeah, I was just a student :)
2016-02-08 03907, 2016
reosarevok
Freso: could you tweet about today's release if you haven't yet?
2016-02-08 03934, 2016
chrisskye
editing/data input for artists needs to be user friendly. I know almost nothing...but the whole ‘how to’ seems really WORDY and cumbersome...I tire of it before I even think about starting...
2016-02-08 03937, 2016
reosarevok
Or actually, wait, I remember the password now so I can log in here too :p
2016-02-08 03947, 2016
reosarevok
chrisskye: have you seen the videos?
2016-02-08 03952, 2016
reosarevok
(they're still long though)
2016-02-08 03902, 2016
chrisskye
I saw that videos exist.
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
chrisskye
most people are lazy...
2016-02-08 03941, 2016
chirlu`
Freso/ruaok: As I said above, I think it is a dumb idea to close a ticket as wontfix and at the same time propose it for GSoC. If it is a desirable goal, the ticket should stay open.
2016-02-08 03945, 2016
chrisskye
...but a musician will know his own data. As long as there was a system for reviewing it...
I would guess less intensive because there's only one student and it's easier to coordinate
2016-02-08 03916, 2016
Leo_Verto
I disagree with their TLS settings but other than it seems good :P
2016-02-08 03917, 2016
Freso
chrisskye: */me is lazy
2016-02-08 03928, 2016
Freso
chrisskye: Don't use 1st person for /me :)
2016-02-08 03935, 2016
chrisskye
damn
2016-02-08 03938, 2016
Freso
:D
2016-02-08 03952, 2016
chirlu`
We could have a tag “MeB won’t pay for fixing this ticket”, if we could have tags. ;-)
2016-02-08 03903, 2016
reosarevok
Heh. "A musician will know its own data" is... not always true :d
2016-02-08 03903, 2016
Freso
chirlu`: :)
2016-02-08 03907, 2016
reosarevok
But fair enough :p
2016-02-08 03914, 2016
reosarevok
Tweeted
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2016-02-08 03935, 2016
chrisskye
I agree...false premise...
2016-02-08 03940, 2016
LordSputnik
chrisskye: One way or another, all being well we should have beginner editing in BB by the end of summer, so we can hopefully copy that into MB if it turns out well
2016-02-08 03918, 2016
chrisskye
:)
2016-02-08 03941, 2016
chrisskye
I try to explain to people what MusicBrainz is...and their eyes start to glaze over...
2016-02-08 03916, 2016
Freso
chrisskye: "IMDb for music!"
2016-02-08 03921, 2016
chrisskye
...and the musicians want to know: “what’s in it for me?”
2016-02-08 03929, 2016
Freso
*IMDb á la Wikipedia for music!
2016-02-08 03912, 2016
chrisskye
...except that IF it was Wiki they’d have already used it...they don’t seem to *get it.
2016-02-08 03921, 2016
Freso
I really wish we could get more details from Spotify, Google, et al about how exactly they're using our data and how it helps artists in their systems that they're in MB.
2016-02-08 03934, 2016
chrisskye
I think many people do not want to think too hard about what is behind the things they read on the net
2016-02-08 03901, 2016
Freso
I mean, I love that BBC is so open about what they're using MB for (everything! pretty much :p), but it's not really relevant to people who do not have "radio play" in the UK as a goal. :)
2016-02-08 03917, 2016
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Freso
(E.g., Danish artists and a bunch of indie/underground stuf.)
2016-02-08 03958, 2016
chrisskye
But...theoretically other radio stations may/might do the same?
2016-02-08 03901, 2016
Freso
Theoretically :)
2016-02-08 03916, 2016
Freso
But we *know* that BBC require anything they play to be in MB.
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
Freso
We don't know that for other radio stations.
2016-02-08 03957, 2016
Freso
And saying to artists that there is maybe a radio station out there, playing their kind of music, relying on MB data...
2016-02-08 03919, 2016
chrisskye
...then they see the website and get scared and/or lazy
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
Freso
I've gotten some musician friends of mine to send me their music in return for me adding it to MB for them.
I actually think the credit on that site to MB is decent. I mean, it'd be nice if they added a footer on the whole page, but they actually have three mb.o links in the "how it works" section.
2016-02-08 03957, 2016
bitmap
I would guess in general it's about the same since there's less hand-holding, but the tasks are bigger and more technical so by their nature require more discussion/review
2016-02-08 03958, 2016
Leo_Verto
Other than that, awesome use of MB data :D
2016-02-08 03909, 2016
Freso
One of them is not linking to the best place, sure, but still. :)
2016-02-08 03914, 2016
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Freso
Leo_Verto: I'll e-mail them and ask them to change that. ;)
CallerNo6 tried a few friends too. So far, no luck.
2016-02-08 03951, 2016
Freso
kepstin ruaok: Are you linked to Vince via me? I seem to be a 6 on the Vince index. :)
2016-02-08 03902, 2016
ruaok
yep
2016-02-08 03919, 2016
kepstin
Freso: yep, exactly :)
2016-02-08 03939, 2016
LordSputnik isn't in MB
2016-02-08 03942, 2016
LordSputnik
:(
2016-02-08 03943, 2016
chrisskye
She hosts a radio show, organized indie festivals, organizes music projects for municipal government; writes, records...well connected in the Canadian scene
