21:07 PM
chirlu`
On the opposite, we should have a common “artwork” entity.
2016-02-15 04614, 2016
21:07 PM
ruaok
we can't backup the DB without dropping them. not enough disk space.
2016-02-15 04616, 2016
21:07 PM
bitmap
hmm, I seem to remember one
2016-02-15 04645, 2016
21:07 PM
ruaok
that can be done beforehand.
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21:07 PM
ruaok
we just need to ensure that none of the tables are still in use.
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21:08 PM
Freso
gcilou: Also, the event icon should probably be simpler.
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21:08 PM
chirlu`
MBS-384
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21:08 PM
chirlu`
Sorry, MBH-384.
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21:08 PM
Freso
(That one has at least three different grays + the orange.)
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21:08 PM
bitmap
thanks
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21:09 PM
bitmap
it was mentioned in the postgres upgrade doc too, sans ticket #
2016-02-15 04629, 2016
21:09 PM
bitmap adds it there
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21:09 PM
CatQuest
where are the old icons stored?
2016-02-15 04659, 2016
21:09 PM
CatQuest 'd like iot download them.. for.. uh nostalgia
2016-02-15 04617, 2016
21:10 PM
Freso
In the musicbrainz-server repository.
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21:10 PM
CatQuest
...
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21:10 PM
bitmap
I'll add MBH-384 to the schema fix version too
2016-02-15 04629, 2016
21:10 PM
CatQuest
the url
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21:10 PM
gcilou
Freso, yes I will find another for events
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21:10 PM
Freso
I don't have the URL handy.
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21:10 PM
Freso
static/images somewhere, probably.
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gcilou
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21:10 PM
gcilou
^ CatQuest
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21:11 PM
CatQuest except they're in mb.org/someting/something (folder containing those)
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21:11 PM
CatQuest
cheer gcilou
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21:11 PM
bitmap
ruaok: what day do we typically do the schema changes on?
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21:12 PM
ruaok
the closest monday to the 15th.
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21:12 PM
Freso
"static/images" somewhere indeed. :)
2016-02-15 04618, 2016
21:12 PM
ruaok
so, in this case the 16th, IIRC. I mentioned it in the blog post about postgres
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21:12 PM
Freso
bitmap ruaok: The 16th.
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21:12 PM
bitmap
ok :)
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21:13 PM
CatQuest
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21:14 PM
Freso
Leftmost: Re: schema change ticket, ruaok may decide that we only do one 2016 schema change again, so unless you think it should be pushed back one more year, getting it done for this round is the safe bet. :)
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21:14 PM
reosarevok
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bitmap
hmm. can't assign MBS versions to MBH tickets
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21:14 PM
ruaok
bitmap: move the ticket to MBS.
2016-02-15 04600, 2016
21:15 PM
ruaok
it really should be there anyway.
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21:15 PM
CatQuest
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21:15 PM
bitmap
k
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21:15 PM
CatQuest
trying to be able to wget it maybe
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21:15 PM
ruaok
Freso: if we don't spend months and months cleaning up after the schema change, then there will be a second one.
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21:15 PM
CatQuest
nope
2016-02-15 04640, 2016
21:15 PM
Freso
ruaok: I didn't say it would be so, I just said it might be so. We'll see. :)
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21:16 PM
Freso
CatQuest: There's a magic flag you can give to wget to make it disregard robots.txt.
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21:16 PM
CatQuest
yea.. I don't remember that tho :/
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21:16 PM
Freso
You could also "just" git clone musicbrainz-server and copy the entire directory from there.
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21:16 PM
Freso
Sure, it might take a while to clone mb-s, but you'd be sure to get all of the images and not forgetting a random one.
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21:17 PM
Leftmost
Freso, okay. I should be able to do it for this round.
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21:17 PM
Freso
bitmap: ^
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21:17 PM
reosarevok
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21:17 PM
bitmap
hm?
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21:17 PM
CatQuest
wow, thanks reo!
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21:17 PM
Freso
CatQuest: But also, even when new icons get pushed to musicbrainz-server, the old icons will still be available in the history of the Git repository, so you can always access them in the future too.
2016-02-15 04621, 2016
21:18 PM
reosarevok
CatQuest: let me know if you got them and it worked so I can remove the file again :)
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21:18 PM
CatQuest
reosarevok: sure:)
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21:20 PM
zas
reosarevok: about InfluxDB, i was looking for an alternative to the whisperdb used by graphite. We currently have issues because this database requires a lot of write access, and this resource is limited on any server, so we can't increase too much for number of stored points (each point being something like value + timestamp + a name,
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21:20 PM
zas
collectd.astro.net.eth0.tx.bytes 12345 <time>).
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CatQuest
thanks reo; it worked
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21:22 PM
zas
we are currently using mostly collectd > carbon relay > carbon > whisper > graphite > grafana, and since grafana has direct support for influxdb queries (a kind of SQL for time series), i'm moving to collectd > influxdb > grafana
2016-02-15 04610, 2016
21:22 PM
reosarevok
CatQuest: :)
2016-02-15 04629, 2016
21:22 PM
reosarevok
That sounds like an improvement, yes :)
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21:23 PM
bitmap
Leftmost: is there a schema change ticket you're working on?
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21:25 PM
zas
InfluxDB has got a lot of attention recently, very active developpement, and tons of nice features coming, and it is very fast compared to whisper, so we'll be able to store more stats. In the future i would like most of our apps or services reporting stats so we can more easily evaluate the impact of changes on the whole system.
2016-02-15 04600, 2016
21:27 PM
LordSputnik
zas: that actually looks useful for an IoT data storage thing I'm working on atm, thanks :P
2016-02-15 04621, 2016
21:27 PM
zas
I already and heavily used existing stats, and discovered and eventually fixed multiple performance or reliability issues.
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21:28 PM
bitmap
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21:29 PM
bitmap
and "MBS-xxxx Change how relationships are represented in the database" isn't in there, not sure what that is exactly yet :)
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21:34 PM
Freso
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21:34 PM
Freso
For Leftmost's schema change ticket.
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21:35 PM
bitmap
ah, thanks
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21:37 PM
Freso
(Leftmost already had a PR open and doesn't have any other schema change tickets on his plate, so I hope it'll be doable for him. :))
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21:43 PM
gcilou pulls out hair from lack of orchestra and choir icons out there..
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21:45 PM
Freso
gcilou: Maybe make a "large group" one? ~10 person icons?
2016-02-15 04624, 2016
21:46 PM
gcilou
yeah..would look mumbo jumbo at a small size thou
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21:46 PM
gcilou
though rather
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21:47 PM
Leo_Verto
A quartet should suffice :P
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21:50 PM
gcilou
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21:54 PM
Leo_Verto
heh "director-of-music-icon"
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21:54 PM
reosarevok
Leo_Verto: but a quartet is not an orchestra! :p
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21:54 PM
gcilou
hey that's what it downloaded itself as
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21:54 PM
reosarevok
(as in, it specifically uses the "group" type :p)
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Leo_Verto
ah
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Freso
That eyes one is kind of creepy.
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22:13 PM
Freso
Remember to keep track of creators and licenses.
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22:13 PM
gcilou
yes I know that's why I was joking ;)) ok
2016-02-15 04616, 2016
22:14 PM
Freso
I'm not sure the label one really works.
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22:14 PM
gcilou
hm okay. what would you suggest?
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22:14 PM
Leo_Verto
could add a record to the building
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22:14 PM
Freso
Would the releases work without the "shine"?
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22:14 PM
Freso
RG one probably wouldn't. :/
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22:15 PM
gcilou
I could find different cds
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22:15 PM
Freso
I like that the area one is mostly showing ocean. :)
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22:16 PM
gcilou
yeah it's not centered over a certain area :)
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22:16 PM
Freso
Yep.
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22:16 PM
Freso
Well, it is.
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22:16 PM
gcilou
well land area at least
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22:16 PM
Freso
Just not an area under any nation's sovereignity.
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gcilou
inhabitable area
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