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LordSputnik
hmm, BB search may still be down, and I've forgotten whether redis needs a screen
2016-02-24 05558, 2016
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CatQuest
I saw this as an add thingy once I think it was for the "meny" supermarket
2016-02-24 05515, 2016
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Leo_Verto
ruaok mentioned that running things in screens isn't considered good practice for production :P
2016-02-24 05521, 2016
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Leo_Verto
and redis should work as a service
2016-02-24 05525, 2016
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CatQuest
if I come across any good ones i 'll tell you :D
2016-02-24 05527, 2016
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LordSputnik
Leo_Verto: yup, that's still good
2016-02-24 05544, 2016
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LordSputnik
I know it isn't, but it's quick
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CatQuest
alastairp: or did you mean the asterix ones specifically?
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CatQuest
:D
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LordSputnik
And doesn't require someone with root access
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alastairp
oh yes, only asterix :)
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CatQuest
aha!
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Leo_Verto
I'm proud to say I own all Asterix comics :P
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CatQuest
well the bard guy is called Trubadurix and the old guy is called "Senilix"
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darwin
I own most in german lol
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Leo_Verto
about 50% of my childhood :D
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CatQuest
i don't own all of thme, but i'm working on it
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CatQuest
there is also a (norwegian) mb user named "senilix" :D
2016-02-24 05533, 2016
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Leo_Verto
and reading some of them again recently, I got the political undertone
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LordSputnik
I used to have about 20
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Leo_Verto
CatQuest, that'd be Methusalix
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Leo_Verto
I only know the German names
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LordSputnik
In English he's Getafix the druid
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reosarevok
So what you're saying is that BB needs to store characters and have locale aliases for them?
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Lingo___
haudraufwienix
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Leo_Verto
Miraculix is the druid's german name
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Leo_Verto
Lingo___, <3 gems like that
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reosarevok
Panoramix in Spanish
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reosarevok
Getafix would be too similar to Madrid's neighbourhood of Getafe and nobody would take it "seriously"
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reosarevok
Panoramix doesn't work in the same joke way as Getafix does though
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CatQuest
the wizard guy is "Miraculix" and the leader of the gauls (the guy being carried on the sheild) is "Majestetix"
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CatQuest
[21:46] <reosarevok> So what you're saying is that BB needs to store characters and have locale aliases for them?
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CatQuest
JA!
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Leo_Verto
Oh, storing characters :P
2016-02-24 05546, 2016
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reosarevok
Can I link the Steve Jobs biography to a character with a Spanish alias of Esteban Trabajos?
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Leo_Verto
We've had that debate a while ago, characters aren't metadata but would be extremely useful to store
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reosarevok
:p
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reosarevok
I think it's reasonable to ignore characters until you have the main features for the site in place, but they'd be useful later on probably, yes
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CatQuest agrees
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Lingo___
is your discussion in any way related to book brainz?
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Leo_Verto
it is
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Lingo___
does book brainz cover characters?
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Leo_Verto
Not yet, but we could do that in the future
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Lingo___
thats cool
2016-02-24 05507, 2016
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Leo_Verto
that's one of the things most other online libraries do not store
2016-02-24 05512, 2016
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ruaok
so, if I were to reboot sakura now, would boobrainz come back up?
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Leo_Verto
nope
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Lingo___
btw I got 'Internal Server Error' at login
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ruaok
Leo_Verto: you have plans to fix this, right?
2016-02-24 05510, 2016
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Leo_Verto
yep, I'm working on a initscript for bb-site right now
2016-02-24 05519, 2016
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ruaok
sweet
2016-02-24 05505, 2016
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Leo_Verto
LordSputnik, ping, are you sure BB is fully up yet?
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Leo_Verto
I can't login either
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LordSputnik
Leo_Verto: apart from search and logging in
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Gentlecat
zas: btw, if you are upgrading postgres, might be better to just upgrade to 9.5
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chirlu`
alastairp: Do you have a word for something that is bigger than a boulder but not as huge as a mountain?
2016-02-24 05508, 2016
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Freso
I just want to know what Lingo wanted to use the logo for...
2016-02-24 05541, 2016
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Leo_Verto
Logo licensing is an interesting thing
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Leo_Verto
that seems like something you'd want to trademark
2016-02-24 05518, 2016
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Leo_Verto
kinda like the way Mozilla does it
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reosarevok
Freso: well, is an interesting question to answer in any case, see our discourse logo modifications and all
2016-02-24 05526, 2016
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Leo_Verto
LordSputnik, what's the absolute path for the bb repo clones on sakura?
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LordSputnik
Leo_Verto: /home/bookbrainz afaik
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Freso
reosarevok: He found his answer, it seems.
2016-02-24 05520, 2016
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LordSputnik
then bookbrainz-site/ws/schema
2016-02-24 05558, 2016
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Freso
ruaok chrisskye, have you had any talks/thoughts on ®'ing the new logos?
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LordSputnik
uwsgi script for ws is bookbrainz-ws/bbws.ini
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ruaok
cc-by
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Leo_Verto
okay, I'm setting up a dev VM and trying to replicate sakura
2016-02-24 05541, 2016
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Freso
ruaok: That works with copyright, not trademark law.
2016-02-24 05550, 2016
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LordSputnik
Leo_Verto: you might also want to run a gulp build on startup
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Leo_Verto
wouldn't want to test my initscripts on production :P
2016-02-24 05518, 2016
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ruaok
ah, your question was about trademarks.
2016-02-24 05525, 2016
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LordSputnik
Leo_Verto: you could change rika to mirror it
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ruaok can't read the small bit
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alastairp
chirlu`: cliff face? hill?
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Freso
:)
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alastairp
mound
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LordSputnik
then we can test the init scripts there too
2016-02-24 05552, 2016
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ruaok
the problem is this: registering and maintaining a trademark is expensive.
2016-02-24 05559, 2016
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ruaok
let alone 8 or so.
2016-02-24 05554, 2016
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Leo_Verto
LordSputnik, sounds like a good idea, you wouldn't mind adding my new SSH key, would you? :P
2016-02-24 05500, 2016
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chirlu`
Hill and mound sound too “soft” to me. Rather mud than rock. But that may be just me.
2016-02-24 05506, 2016
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chrisskye
this is true. it isn’t simple, fast or cheap to protect the logos
2016-02-24 05512, 2016
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Freso
ruaok: Yep. Just wanted to know if it'd crossed your mind(s). :)
2016-02-24 05522, 2016
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Freso
If not, is has now. ;)
2016-02-24 05532, 2016
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Leo_Verto
chirlu`, cliff face?
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ruaok
Leo_Verto: grrrrr.
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chrisskye
Each name. Each logo would be independently registered.
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chrisskye
And, you need to decide where to do it...California + USA + global?
2016-02-24 05510, 2016
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ruaok
ch-ching x 16! (or whatever our count now is)
2016-02-24 05516, 2016
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LordSputnik
Leo_Verto: I can add it when I get home :P
2016-02-24 05538, 2016
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Freso
chrisskye: I was involved with Jeunesses Musicales International's discussion on trademarking their names and logos several years back. :)
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Leo_Verto
ruaok, what was that for? D:
2016-02-24 05559, 2016
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chrisskye
Here...I think 8 months and 500euros...I could get 1 name/1 mark registered, in one country...
2016-02-24 05500, 2016
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Freso
(As a Canadian, you might be one of the few who have actually heard of the organisation.)
2016-02-24 05512, 2016
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ruaok
Leo_Verto: actually never mind. sorry.
2016-02-24 05520, 2016
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ruaok
chrisskye: that.
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chrisskye
have not heard of them
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Freso
Ah well.
2016-02-24 05521, 2016
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ruaok
one possible thought, possibly naive...
2016-02-24 05522, 2016
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Freso
chrisskye: They're involved with far most of youth music things in Canada as I understand it.
2016-02-24 05523, 2016
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chrisskye
It’s just that protecting something isn’t easy. You want to forbid others from using what? How similar? What industry? Colours? Shapes?
2016-02-24 05542, 2016
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ruaok
we're a non profit with limited means. if someone registers our trademarks, that is a dick move.
2016-02-24 05500, 2016
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chrisskye
...might consider just the name.
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Gentlecat
if you do that you get a cake?
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ruaok
then we sound the alarm and see if we can get the internet to help us out.
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Gentlecat
a bit one
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Leo_Verto
heh
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Gentlecat
big*
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ruaok
Gentlecat: cake and a tire iron
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chrisskye
Although...you could probably contest someone making use of the name, without registering...because it has been in use and is known
2016-02-24 05514, 2016
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chrisskye
yeah...fighting infringement with lawyers...we wouldn’t have means for that!
2016-02-24 05517, 2016
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ruaok
that might be the only real possibility for us.
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Leo_Verto
LordSputnik, I don't think starting the service should rebuild bb, but I could add a command for that
2016-02-24 05500, 2016
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chrisskye
A different issue...might be patents...of anything you do as makers
2016-02-24 05549, 2016
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chrisskye
well...
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LordSputnik
Leo_Verto: sure OK
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chrisskye
I had a friend who, by luck, got a patent on a piece they use in eye exam machines...it has been paying for years...
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chrisskye
...somehow every new technology still needs this gem of electronics he engineered.
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Leftmost
LordSputnik, did you manage to get into the twitter account?
2016-02-24 05530, 2016
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LordSputnik
Leftmost: I'm in yeah
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LordSputnik
I can change it to the BB@meb address I think
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Leftmost
Great, thanks.
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LordSputnik
Well the password has changed since then
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LordSputnik
Freso: Leftmost: navap: I've sent a support request, but we're locked out until then I guess :(
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LordSputnik
Unless I can get on on my phone...
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Freso
I guess the tweet that needed retweeting isn't really relevant anymore though. :)
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Freso
So it's not that great of a rush.
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navap
LordSputnik: Leftmost I also created a ticket
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LordSputnik
yeah, just unlucky we got locked out just as we needed it
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Leftmost
I'll create a ticket too! :-P
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LordSputnik
navap: thanks, I'm not sure they respond to some types of ticket, so I've sent two different types :P
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navap
heh
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navap
I just hope they don't see all the activity and think it's suspicious
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navap
Freso: I see you liked the show Friends ;)
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Freso
navap: Uh. On Facebook? Or where?
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navap
Just in general. There's no l in my name ;)
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LordSputnik
(Chandler is a Friends character, while Pavan's surname is Chander ;))
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CallerNo6 likes that "like" is something one does on facebook!
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darwin
f/k/a/ "digg"
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kepstin
well, liking brand names is a thing you do on facebook.
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kepstin
or at least a thing some people who use facebook do on it
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LordSputnik
Leftmost: do you have the BB Twitter password anywhere?
