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      • alastairp
        one sec, we're fighting with paperwork

        • 2016-02-25 05655, 2016

      • bitmap
        rahulr: it should still save cover art if none already exists, though, right? then it should always be downloaded, because files can be matched to an album after it's loaded

        • 2016-02-25 05602, 2016

      • ruaok hands alastairp a flamethrower

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      • alastairp
        I wish

        • 2016-02-25 05655, 2016

      • alastairp
        ruaok: are you able to come to our barrio?

        • 2016-02-25 05620, 2016

      • alastairp
        we can find a bar close by so we can all get there easily

        • 2016-02-25 05615, 2016

      • ruaok
        our? all?

        • 2016-02-25 05621, 2016

      • ruaok
        what am I signing up for?

        • 2016-02-25 05635, 2016

      • ruaok
        SF barrio?

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      • UmkaDK
        Guys, I've got a question… hopefully a really simple one! I've just noticed that our server is throwing "Can't connect to 127.0.0.1:9009 Connection refused" when accessing /ws/2

        • 2016-02-25 05626, 2016

      • bitmap
        hmm, 9009 is the port used by our new template renderer, so that sounds like it isn't running

        • 2016-02-25 05633, 2016

      • UmkaDK
        I guess the most likely reason is that /root/server.js isn't working properly

        • 2016-02-25 05634, 2016

      • UmkaDK
        do you know what's rendered by that server? How critical is it to the normal slave operations?

        • 2016-02-25 05616, 2016

      • bitmap
        right now it's just used to render our 404 page, but we're planning to render all templates with it

        • 2016-02-25 05656, 2016

      • bitmap
        it should started automatically if RENDERER_HOST isn't configured, otherwise it can be started with ./script/start_renderer.pl

        • 2016-02-25 05633, 2016

      • UmkaDK
        ok, so I've got until my next server upgrade to fix this! :)

        • 2016-02-25 05644, 2016

      • bitmap
        I suppose we should look into whether it should be throwing that if you're just accessing /ws/2

        • 2016-02-25 05600, 2016

      • UmkaDK
        Awesome, thank you so much bitmap!

        • 2016-02-25 05627, 2016

      • bitmap
        oh, that error can happen with /ws/2 if the request 404s in certain cases

        • 2016-02-25 05619, 2016

      • UmkaDK
        Yep, found it: /ws/2/artists :)

        • 2016-02-25 05620, 2016

      • bitmap
        got any example of a /ws/2 request that returns "Can't connect to 127.0.0.1:9009"?

        • 2016-02-25 05630, 2016

      • bitmap
        heh :)

        • 2016-02-25 05606, 2016

      • bitmap
        well, we should be returning an XML response there in any case, not HTML, so still a bug on our side

        • 2016-02-25 05643, 2016

      • UmkaDK
        Well at the moment, just accessing /ws/2 returns Connection refused

        • 2016-02-25 05614, 2016

      • UmkaDK
        It doesn't even return html, it's just plain text! :D

        • 2016-02-25 05644, 2016

      • bitmap
        yeah, any path not defined in the API will error like that

        • 2016-02-25 05646, 2016

      • UmkaDK
        It dies in LWP/Protocol/http.pm line 47

        • 2016-02-25 05602, 2016

      • bitmap
        it'd return HTML if the renderer was running :)

        • 2016-02-25 05614, 2016

      • UmkaDK
        :D

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      • gcilou
        omg windows 10 is so weird..

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      • reosarevok
        At least it's not Windows 8 :p

        • 2016-02-25 05657, 2016

      • gcilou
        I upgraded from 7 so this is a big jump

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      • reosarevok
        Oh, ok, then yeah

        • 2016-02-25 05633, 2016

      • reosarevok
        You skipped the worst part still though ;)

        • 2016-02-25 05627, 2016

      • gcilou
        haha good. I only use my PC for school stuff occasionally though..just when I need to use a cd..

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      • Mineo
        wait til it tries to install candy crush saga all the time ;)

        • 2016-02-25 05651, 2016

      • gcilou
        lol I saw it pop up earlier lol

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      • reosarevok
        bitmap: IIRC http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-8825 was because you told me to? :) Or did I misunderstand?

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      • LordSputnik
        navap: I won't contact them any more until you're done with them

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      • bitmap
        oh...I think I said cursor: default but meant pointer

        • 2016-02-25 05620, 2016

      • bitmap
        sorry :P

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      • reosarevok
        heh

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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: name change request - I don't have the privs

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      • ruaok
        thanks biff.

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      • reosarevok
        :p

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      • reosarevok
        Do you read all the mails anyway? I try to mention the ones that are relevant so you don't need to read the whole thing, but I can stop if you want

        • 2016-02-25 05603, 2016

      • ruaok
        I do read them.

        • 2016-02-25 05613, 2016

      • ruaok
        someone has to keep tabs on reotab

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      • reosarevok
        dammit bitmap, I was doing it :p

        • 2016-02-25 05640, 2016

      • reosarevok
        Ok then

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      • reosarevok
        Less work for me :p

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      • Leo_Verto
        gcilou, DOOOOM!

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      • gcilou
        why?

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      • gcilou
        Leo_Verto ^

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      • reosarevok
        Maybe he wants you to install the game :p

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      • gcilou
        oh lol. I know it's soo addicting. Just don't want it on my laptop :)

        • 2016-02-25 05610, 2016

      • Leo_Verto
        Windows 10 is evil

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      • reosarevok
        Leo_Verto: isn't it basically ok as long as you deactivate all the "oh yeah disregard my privacy" bits?

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      • Leo_Verto
        nah, still keeps making requests to MS servers

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      • Leo_Verto
        even the server version does

        • 2016-02-25 05617, 2016

      • Leo_Verto
        and as a power user, metro feels horrible for mouse and keyboard and they basically removed features to move stuff from system control to that sidebar

        • 2016-02-25 05610, 2016

      • gcilou
        hm well good thing I use my Air most of the time :)

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      • Leo_Verto
        Have you tried our Lord and savior, Linux? :P

        • 2016-02-25 05620, 2016

      • gcilou
        lol no

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      • reosarevok
        It even has Sunless Sea now! :p

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      • Leo_Verto
        developing anything that's not .NET on windows is atrocious, never tried OSX but I'm really happy with my customized KDE on Arch

        • 2016-02-25 05628, 2016

      • Leo_Verto
        Also I see you joined SLUG, reosarevok :P

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      • reosarevok
        Heh

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      • reosarevok
        It's kinda funny in my school actually

        • 2016-02-25 05621, 2016

      • reosarevok
        Everyone has some Windows lappy or other

        • 2016-02-25 05639, 2016

      • reosarevok
        So whenever we need to get something running everyone keeps hitting different problems

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      • reosarevok
        For me it tends to be "oh, I ran apt-get and it worked" :p

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      • Leo_Verto
        Heh

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      • Leo_Verto
        Always issues with connecting to a RADIUS wlan

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      • Leo_Verto
        and every win version requires a different fix, even 8 and 8.1

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      • Freso
        I don't really get people who say that Windows "just work". I mean, have they actually used Windows?

        • 2016-02-25 05612, 2016

      • reosarevok
        It does for some things I guess?

        • 2016-02-25 05619, 2016

      • reosarevok
        A few

        • 2016-02-25 05620, 2016

      • reosarevok
        Not many

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      • reosarevok
        To be fair, I still need to run service network-manager restart on reboot for my wifi to work

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      • reosarevok
        So I'm not going to claim my install "just works" either :D

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      • Leo_Verto
        I think it depends on the attitude

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      • Leo_Verto
        Windows "works" mostly because of good driver support

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      • Leo_Verto
        And if you don't care about customization, aren't a dev and just want to browse facebook, it probably works for you

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      • Leo_Verto
        If you however try to customize it or develop stuff, you're going to run into a wall

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      • Leo_Verto
        gcilou, generally I'd recommend setting up a linux system (even if it's just in a VM), I felt I learned a lot from that

        • 2016-02-25 05651, 2016

      • Leo_Verto
        and I haven't even touched Linux From Scratch

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      • Leo_Verto
        might take two or three tries until you understand everything well enough to fix stuff you break trying to do other stuff, but you can get a system that is tailored to your needs and workflow and looks good

        • 2016-02-25 05621, 2016

      • Leo_Verto
        and wow, I do like monologues :P

        • 2016-02-25 05621, 2016

      • reosarevok
        I mean, I learnt not to fear the terminal back when I had a macbook

        • 2016-02-25 05624, 2016

      • reosarevok
        OSX isn't that bad

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      • reosarevok
        For that

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      • Leo_Verto
        I guess, it seems to be pretty popular with developers

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      • Leo_Verto
        It "just works" in that sense which might be better for work

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      • Leo_Verto
        but I love tinkering

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      • gcilou
        Leo_Verto, sounds interesting ! Sorry I was in a meeting with some dudes who I'm going to be on a programming team with for a competition :)

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      • Leo_Verto
        programming or robotics?

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      • gcilou
        programming

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      • Freso
        How does that even work?

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      • reosarevok
        Heh, that momment when I'm thinking "oh, I so agree with that ticket Gentlecat just commented on" without noticing it's my own ticket :D

        • 2016-02-25 05638, 2016

      • reosarevok
        At least I'm consistent.

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      • Gentlecat
        lol

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      • Freso
        It'd be more amusing if you'd been like "that's the most daft thing anyone has ever asked! ... oh."

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      • reosarevok
        I'm sure I'd think that of some old tickets of mine :p

        • 2016-02-25 05617, 2016

      • reosarevok
        Freso: we had a team competition on programming in our school

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      • gcilou
        Freso, just a bunch of teams of two or three people sitting in a big room with computers working on problem sets trying to get the most done in a certain amount of time :) lol

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      • reosarevok
        I ended up doing everything because nobody else had a clue, but

        • 2016-02-25 05645, 2016

      • reosarevok
        It was supposed to be "every member on the team works on a different piece of the site / software"

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      • reosarevok
        (honestly, I got picked as top 3 student in my class and I don't even speak the language fluently, that's how bad it is :p)

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      • Leo_Verto
        I once got top grade for a game we didn't even hand it

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      • gcilou
        these are the types of problems we are going to be doing http://hspc.csce.uark.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015…

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      • Leo_Verto
        A friend of mine made the client, I did the server and handled project administration and the third guy had no idea how to Java and just made some art

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      • gcilou
        ^ that type of thing sounds interesting

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      • Leo_Verto
        ended up being a fun little game with a unique art style

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      • Leo_Verto
        lan multiplayer was a bit problematic due to desyncs though

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      • reosarevok
        Heh, that sounds kinda fun

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      • reosarevok
        (to both of you)

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      • Leo_Verto
        We had a lot of fun, did a lot of unrelated stuff and learned how to use Git

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      • gcilou
        well this is my first "live in-person" comp. so it should be interesting at least :)

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      • reosarevok
        For ours, we had to make this basic website and ordering system for the school restaurant, and then present it

        • 2016-02-25 05603, 2016

      • reosarevok
        It was a few hours and the site was a mess, of course :p

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      • Freso
        All of those seem like interesting exercises, but I guess my aversion towards competitions just makes the whole thing seem icky to me. :)

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      • reosarevok
        The presentations were apparently worse than the sites though :D

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      • reosarevok
        We got an extra class on presentations the week after because they were all so bad :p

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      • Leo_Verto
        Freso, wasn't a competition in my case, just IT class

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      • gcilou
        Yeah, I think that the time constraints are going to kill me :\

        • 2016-02-25 05602, 2016

      • reosarevok
        Freso: generally agreed, yes. (good) Students in this country are all crazy about competitions, and they even get scholarships and stuff for them

        • 2016-02-25 05606, 2016

      • Freso
        Leo_Verto: Yeah, I was referring specifically to the PDF gcilou linked.

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      • Leo_Verto
        I find team programming is a great thing to learn, but you really need team partners willing to work

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      • reosarevok got offered a few of those in school back in Spain and his answer was always like "eh, no, I'd rather not do competitive stuff"

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      • reosarevok
        Competitive learning is a bit weird for me :p

        • 2016-02-25 05602, 2016

      • reosarevok
        But still, as long as you do it for fun, and have fun, who cares about the prize

        • 2016-02-25 05605, 2016

      • gcilou
        yeah today was my first time meeting these guys, so we'll see what they're made up of ;)

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      • gcilou
        (we'll meaning I...)

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      • reosarevok
        My issue is when people go all competitive like WE NEED TO WIN THIS and it's like "dude just chill and learn stuff" :p

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      • Freso
        ^

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      • Leo_Verto
        A lot of funding and competitions for sciences here, never heard of anything promoting IT in schools

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      • Gentlecat went to china once for a programming competition

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      • Freso
        But you also lived pretty much on the border to China. :p