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zas
yes, hetzner ones are much faster
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reosarevok
What was hetzner again?
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Freso
Server hosting I believe.
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Freso
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ruaok
AB and LB are there already.
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Freso
(A Minecraft server I used to be headmod of was(/is?) hosted there.)
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Freso
(Come to think of it, that server was *also* run by a German. Hm...)
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Leo_Verto
Freso, did you find the colour picker?
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Freso
Yep.
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Freso
Ehm.
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Freso
zas, is there a reason not to use the same e-mail for "contact email" and "notification email" in Discourse?
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ruaok
bitmap: ping
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ruaok
dagon is dead. I've upgraded rocko. we need to put it into rotation.
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ruaok
can you please do that when you get a chance?
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Freso
LordSputnik and Leftmost, re-ping?
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ruaok
bitmap: rocko is ready
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LordSputnik
Freso: pong
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Gentlecat
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Freso
Gentlecat: :)
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Freso
I'm considering whether we need a gsoc-ideas category as well, or if that's better suited to the per-project categories.
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Freso
Gentlecat: Did you try creating a topic in it? (Don't actually create one.)
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Gentlecat
we have a wiki for ideas
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alastairp
Freso: are categories like tags?
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alastairp
or folders
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Freso
alastairp: Folders.
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alastairp
it’d be nice to have a place to see them all at once
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Freso
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alastairp
no
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alastairp
them == gsoc ideas
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Freso
(Tags will come once zas has given me access to the server.)
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alastairp
oh, but there’s also the applications category
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Freso
(I need to install a plugin for that.)
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alastairp
I don’t think we need to differ between ideas and applications
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alastairp
(unless you think we do)
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alastairp
"Only GSoC applications should be posted here.” ahh
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Freso
alastairp: Yes, the idea is that all applications go into the applications go into gsoc-applications and *only* applications go there.
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Gentlecat
what if multiple students apply for the same idea?
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alastairp
so I’m thinking selfishly
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alastairp
“how few categories do I have to keep an eye on and visit from day to day"
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Freso
alastairp: Let's see how tags work once I get that installed.
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alastairp
ok, cool
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Freso
Maybe you're able to subscribe to tags.
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LordSputnik
navap1: any news on the Twitter account?
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Freso doesn't know, hasn't been able to play with that yet :)
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alastairp
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Mineo
no :)
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alastairp
I’m migrating AB to a new postgres version
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alastairp
and don’t know if I should also migrate users, or just delete them all
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Leo_Verto
why'd you want to do that?
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alastairp
there are actually a few datasets that people have tried to make
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Freso
alastairp: Feel free to delete me. :p
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Gentlecat
Freso: yes, I can create a new topic and there's a template with application info
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Freso
Gentlecat: Isn't it neat? :)
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alastairp
when are we going to make it not look terrible?
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alastairp
and by we, I mean not me
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Freso
How long did it take us to make forums.mb.o look not terrible?
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alastairp
no idea, never used them
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Leo_Verto
heh
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reosarevok
(they always looked terrible)
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alastairp
there’s something about the layout of discourse that just doesn’t sit well with me
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alastairp
perhaps it’s because it’s so close to what the new mb design looks like, but it isn't
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Freso goes hunting for the SVG gcilou made
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Freso found it
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reosarevok
What's the difference between "sign up" and "log in"?
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reosarevok
(I clicked log in and it signed me up :p)
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Freso
reosarevok: I can't make "sign up" disappear without "log in" not working for users not already in the system.
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Freso
(Maybe we can add some CSS or something to hide the sign up though.)
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Freso
(Or make the sign up redirect to mb.o.)
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LordSputnik
They both seem to do the same thing
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Gentlecat
ideally it would redirect to MusicBrainz, which allows you to create an account if you don't have one
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Freso
I guess that's the current behaviour :)
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Freso
(For both "buttons")
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gcilou
Freso, does the svg work?
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Freso
gcilou: Nope. :/ So I derived a PNG, and that one does.
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gcilou
oh ok
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Freso
Not sure if we should maybe use medium-detail version instead.
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Freso
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Freso
gcilou: Any chance you feel like redoing the "Community" on a medium-detail version? :D
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gcilou
sure. medium-detailed being the "MetaBrainz" with the undetailed brain thing?
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Freso
Yeah. The ones called _small.
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gcilou
alright
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Freso
Apparently I never made a notext version of that (and committed it anyway).
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Gentlecat
why not be consistent with projects and use _mini version in the header?
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chirlu`
+1 to consistency, but probably in the other direction.
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ruaok
chirlu`: +1
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ruaok
the mini version is meant for icons.
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Mineo
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Freso
Gentlecat: I'm with chirlu`, ruaok, and Mineo :)
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Gentlecat is not going to be the one doing that
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ruaok
Gentlecat: just know that you're going against the (undocumented) design principles. :)
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Gentlecat
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Gentlecat
which are not mine, btw
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TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews; GSoC (Freso); Discourse (OTHER-243 and more; Freso); logo details (MBS-8830 etc., OTHER-246); DR “nostalgia edition”: MBS-6396, MBS-7501, MBS-7564
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TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews; GSoC (Freso); Discourse (OTHER-243 and more; Freso); logo details (MBS-8830 etc., OTHER-246) (chirlu); DR “nostalgia edition”: MBS-6396, MBS-7501, MBS-7564
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chirlu`
Could we ask MonkeyDo why he did it that way?
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Gentlecat
but I seem to be getting most of the complaints anyway
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Gentlecat
even when trying to improve it
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ruaok
welcome to the internet, Gentlecat.
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chirlu`
Well, there have been surprisingly few complaints about the MB restyling, IMO.
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ruaok
chirlu`: yes. I was expecting people to appear on my doorstep over that one.
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ruaok
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ruaok
has a great line in it that is very apt. hang on.
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Freso
Gentlecat: FWIW, I actually like the new design. Thank you for taking that task on. :)
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Freso
(I think I already said this once or twice, but I might not have done so to you directly. I cannae recall.)
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ruaok
"Debussy understood that a work of art or an effort to create beauty was always regarded by some people as a personal attack"
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CallerNo6
is the "Style" category mb-specific? If so, should it be either a sub-category or renamed "MB-Style"?
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Freso
CallerNo6: They already are subcategories.
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Freso
I don't want to rename them just yet. Let's see how much confusion they actually generate.
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CallerNo6
Oh, hmm, I should probably get used to the way things are displayed before I ask any more questions.
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gcilou
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Freso
gcilou: I'd still prefer the SVG :)
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Gentlecat
gcilou: can you also fix font on the top?
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gcilou
what's wrong with the font on the top?
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Freso
(In case we need/want to resize later (or whenever Discourse starts working with SVGs).)
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gcilou
(and yes, I'll get you an svg)
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Freso
Also, is it the same font for "Community"? It looks somewhat different to me.
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Freso
(But I didn't study it closely, so I may be wrong.)
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Gentlecat
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Gentlecat
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Gentlecat
I only fixed _mini for MB
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Gentlecat
you can see it used on the website right now
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Gentlecat
it would also be nice to have this community logo in the repo
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Freso
Gentlecat: Oh, I also got this comment in an e-mail earlier today from a not-currently-active editor: "MusicBrainz looks great!" :)
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Gentlecat
I'm glad people like it, but that wasn't really my point
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Gentlecat
my point was that people tell me I'm doing things "wrong" when I'm actually trying to make it look better
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Gentlecat
and in the end I'm getting told that it actually does look better
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Freso
Oh, I didn't mean to suggest using the no-detail logo on MB.o was wrong, since that *is* how the other sites currently do it too.
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chirlu`
Design is a matter of taste, and opinions differ.
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gcilou
Gentlecat, ok I see. So you said you used Roboto right?
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Gentlecat
Roboto Black is what I used
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gcilou
Ok. Did Illustrator have that or did you have to download it?
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Gentlecat
well, it was used in original logo as well, but some letters were modified
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Gentlecat
I had to download it, let me find a link
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gcilou
thank you