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      • zas
        yes, hetzner ones are much faster
      • 2016-02-28 05955, 2016

      • reosarevok
        What was hetzner again?
      • 2016-02-28 05917, 2016

      • Freso
        Server hosting I believe.
      • 2016-02-28 05932, 2016

      • Freso
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      • ruaok
        AB and LB are there already.
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      • Freso
        (A Minecraft server I used to be headmod of was(/is?) hosted there.)
      • 2016-02-28 05930, 2016

      • Freso
        (Come to think of it, that server was *also* run by a German. Hm...)
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      • Leo_Verto
        Freso, did you find the colour picker?
      • 2016-02-28 05920, 2016

      • Freso
        Yep.
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      • Freso
        Ehm.
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      • Freso
        zas, is there a reason not to use the same e-mail for "contact email" and "notification email" in Discourse?
      • 2016-02-28 05958, 2016

      • ruaok
        bitmap: ping
      • 2016-02-28 05901, 2016

      • ruaok
        dagon is dead. I've upgraded rocko. we need to put it into rotation.
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      • ruaok
        can you please do that when you get a chance?
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      • Freso
        LordSputnik and Leftmost, re-ping?
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      • ruaok
        bitmap: rocko is ready
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      • LordSputnik
        Freso: pong
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      • Gentlecat
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      • Freso
        Gentlecat: :)
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      • Freso
        I'm considering whether we need a gsoc-ideas category as well, or if that's better suited to the per-project categories.
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      • Freso
        Gentlecat: Did you try creating a topic in it? (Don't actually create one.)
      • 2016-02-28 05917, 2016

      • Gentlecat
        we have a wiki for ideas
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      • alastairp
        Freso: are categories like tags?
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      • alastairp
        or folders
      • 2016-02-28 05928, 2016

      • Freso
        alastairp: Folders.
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      • alastairp
        it’d be nice to have a place to see them all at once
      • 2016-02-28 05954, 2016

      • Freso
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      • alastairp
        no
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      • alastairp
        them == gsoc ideas
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      • Freso
        (Tags will come once zas has given me access to the server.)
      • 2016-02-28 05927, 2016

      • alastairp
        oh, but there’s also the applications category
      • 2016-02-28 05931, 2016

      • Freso
        (I need to install a plugin for that.)
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      • alastairp
        I don’t think we need to differ between ideas and applications
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      • alastairp
        (unless you think we do)
      • 2016-02-28 05956, 2016

      • alastairp
        "Only GSoC applications should be posted here.” ahh
      • 2016-02-28 05903, 2016

      • Freso
        alastairp: Yes, the idea is that all applications go into the applications go into gsoc-applications and *only* applications go there.
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      • Gentlecat
        what if multiple students apply for the same idea?
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      • alastairp
        so I’m thinking selfishly
      • 2016-02-28 05935, 2016

      • alastairp
        “how few categories do I have to keep an eye on and visit from day to day"
      • 2016-02-28 05907, 2016

      • Freso
        alastairp: Let's see how tags work once I get that installed.
      • 2016-02-28 05911, 2016

      • alastairp
        ok, cool
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      • Freso
        Maybe you're able to subscribe to tags.
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      • LordSputnik
        navap1: any news on the Twitter account?
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      • Freso doesn't know, hasn't been able to play with that yet :)
      • 2016-02-28 05952, 2016

      • alastairp
        Mineo: is it important that we keep http://acousticbrainz.org/datasets/aa589b3f-71f8-… ?
      • 2016-02-28 05902, 2016

      • Mineo
        no :)
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      • alastairp
        I’m migrating AB to a new postgres version
      • 2016-02-28 05926, 2016

      • alastairp
        and don’t know if I should also migrate users, or just delete them all
      • 2016-02-28 05941, 2016

      • Leo_Verto
        why'd you want to do that?
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      • alastairp
        there are actually a few datasets that people have tried to make
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      • Freso
        alastairp: Feel free to delete me. :p
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      • Gentlecat
        Freso: yes, I can create a new topic and there's a template with application info
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      • Freso
        Gentlecat: Isn't it neat? :)
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      • alastairp
        when are we going to make it not look terrible?
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      • alastairp
        and by we, I mean not me
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      • Freso
        How long did it take us to make forums.mb.o look not terrible?
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      • alastairp
        no idea, never used them
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      • Leo_Verto
        heh
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      • reosarevok
        (they always looked terrible)
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      • alastairp
        there’s something about the layout of discourse that just doesn’t sit well with me
      • 2016-02-28 05959, 2016

      • alastairp
        perhaps it’s because it’s so close to what the new mb design looks like, but it isn't
      • 2016-02-28 05912, 2016

      • Freso goes hunting for the SVG gcilou made
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      • Freso found it
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      • reosarevok
        What's the difference between "sign up" and "log in"?
      • 2016-02-28 05958, 2016

      • reosarevok
        (I clicked log in and it signed me up :p)
      • 2016-02-28 05939, 2016

      • Freso
        reosarevok: I can't make "sign up" disappear without "log in" not working for users not already in the system.
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      • Freso
        (Maybe we can add some CSS or something to hide the sign up though.)
      • 2016-02-28 05902, 2016

      • Freso
        (Or make the sign up redirect to mb.o.)
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      • LordSputnik
        They both seem to do the same thing
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      • Gentlecat
        ideally it would redirect to MusicBrainz, which allows you to create an account if you don't have one
      • 2016-02-28 05937, 2016

      • Freso
        I guess that's the current behaviour :)
      • 2016-02-28 05944, 2016

      • Freso
        (For both "buttons")
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      • gcilou
        Freso, does the svg work?
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      • Freso
        gcilou: Nope. :/ So I derived a PNG, and that one does.
      • 2016-02-28 05917, 2016

      • gcilou
        oh ok
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      • Freso
        Not sure if we should maybe use medium-detail version instead.
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      • Freso
        It does seem slightly clamped: https://community.metabrainz.org/
      • 2016-02-28 05919, 2016

      • Freso
        gcilou: Any chance you feel like redoing the "Community" on a medium-detail version? :D
      • 2016-02-28 05904, 2016

      • gcilou
        sure. medium-detailed being the "MetaBrainz" with the undetailed brain thing?
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      • Freso
        Yeah. The ones called _small.
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      • gcilou
        alright
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      • Freso
        Apparently I never made a notext version of that (and committed it anyway).
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      • Gentlecat
        why not be consistent with projects and use _mini version in the header?
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      • chirlu`
        +1 to consistency, but probably in the other direction.
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      • ruaok
        chirlu`: +1
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      • ruaok
        the mini version is meant for icons.
      • 2016-02-28 05908, 2016

      • Mineo
        what a coincidence, I opened http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/OTHER-246 yesterday :)
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      • Freso
        Gentlecat: I'm with chirlu`, ruaok, and Mineo :)
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      • Gentlecat is not going to be the one doing that
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      • ruaok
        Gentlecat: just know that you're going against the (undocumented) design principles. :)
      • 2016-02-28 05907, 2016

      • Gentlecat
        not according to https://metabrainz.github.io/lobes/examples/kitch… and original designs
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      • Gentlecat
        which are not mine, btw
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      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews; GSoC (Freso); Discourse (OTHER-243 and more; Freso); logo details (MBS-8830 etc., OTHER-246); DR “nostalgia edition”: MBS-6396, MBS-7501, MBS-7564
      • 2016-02-28 05902, 2016

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews; GSoC (Freso); Discourse (OTHER-243 and more; Freso); logo details (MBS-8830 etc., OTHER-246) (chirlu); DR “nostalgia edition”: MBS-6396, MBS-7501, MBS-7564
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      • chirlu`
        Could we ask MonkeyDo why he did it that way?
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      • Gentlecat
        but I seem to be getting most of the complaints anyway
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      • Gentlecat
        even when trying to improve it
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      • ruaok
        welcome to the internet, Gentlecat.
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      • chirlu`
        Well, there have been surprisingly few complaints about the MB restyling, IMO.
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      • ruaok
        chirlu`: yes. I was expecting people to appear on my doorstep over that one.
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        has a great line in it that is very apt. hang on.
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      • Freso
        Gentlecat: FWIW, I actually like the new design. Thank you for taking that task on. :)
      • 2016-02-28 05906, 2016

      • Freso
        (I think I already said this once or twice, but I might not have done so to you directly. I cannae recall.)
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      • ruaok
        "Debussy understood that a work of art or an effort to create beauty was always regarded by some people as a personal attack"
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      • CallerNo6
        is the "Style" category mb-specific? If so, should it be either a sub-category or renamed "MB-Style"?
      • 2016-02-28 05903, 2016

      • Freso
        CallerNo6: They already are subcategories.
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      • Freso
        I don't want to rename them just yet. Let's see how much confusion they actually generate.
      • 2016-02-28 05924, 2016

      • CallerNo6
        Oh, hmm, I should probably get used to the way things are displayed before I ask any more questions.
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      • gcilou
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      • Freso
        gcilou: I'd still prefer the SVG :)
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      • Gentlecat
        gcilou: can you also fix font on the top?
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      • gcilou
        what's wrong with the font on the top?
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      • Freso
        (In case we need/want to resize later (or whenever Discourse starts working with SVGs).)
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      • gcilou
        (and yes, I'll get you an svg)
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      • Freso
        Also, is it the same font for "Community"? It looks somewhat different to me.
      • 2016-02-28 05929, 2016

      • Freso
        (But I didn't study it closely, so I may be wrong.)
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      • Gentlecat
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      • Gentlecat
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      • Gentlecat
        I only fixed _mini for MB
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      • Gentlecat
        you can see it used on the website right now
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      • Gentlecat
        it would also be nice to have this community logo in the repo
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      • Freso
        Gentlecat: Oh, I also got this comment in an e-mail earlier today from a not-currently-active editor: "MusicBrainz looks great!" :)
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      • Gentlecat
        I'm glad people like it, but that wasn't really my point
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      • Gentlecat
        my point was that people tell me I'm doing things "wrong" when I'm actually trying to make it look better
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      • Gentlecat
        and in the end I'm getting told that it actually does look better
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      • Freso
        Oh, I didn't mean to suggest using the no-detail logo on MB.o was wrong, since that *is* how the other sites currently do it too.
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      • chirlu`
        Design is a matter of taste, and opinions differ.
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      • gcilou
        Gentlecat, ok I see. So you said you used Roboto right?
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      • Gentlecat
        Roboto Black is what I used
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      • gcilou
        Ok. Did Illustrator have that or did you have to download it?
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      • Gentlecat
        well, it was used in original logo as well, but some letters were modified
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      • Gentlecat
        I had to download it, let me find a link
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      • gcilou
        thank you