"Caught 'em up in the web of the world and it's wide / The YouTubes has more science than Bill Nye the Science Guy" :D
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kartikgupta0909
armalcolite: Can you tell me your name? :p
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reosarevok
Freso: we should probably look at the old forum stickies and see if some should be imported
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Freso
Sure.
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ruaok
reosarevok: I should be able to do the renames later today/tomorrow.
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reosarevok
:)
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reosarevok
But I have learned not to give ETAs if they're not strictly needed :p
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ruaok
But first, back into sun and more sanity than this beaurocratic crap city. :-)
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Freso
Man. I can't wait for June. Borrowed a replacement laptop, but it's so slow. ;_; I've put in 4 GB of RAM, but it seems like it only recognises 2. And the up key doesn't work.
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Freso
And the mousepad moves the mouse all over the place.
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ruaok is off
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Freso
Except now it does. Wtf.
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alastairp
I added some "Getting started" subsections to the ideas page, after discussion with Gentlecat last night
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alastairp
suggesting what people can do with the AB and LB servers to get started - I was getting the feeling that our blanket "set it up and play with it" was a little too vague
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Freso
"set it up" isn't, "play with it" is. :)
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Freso would love for a student to do LB-1 as part of their "warm-up", hint, hint ;)
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alastairp
but I even think "set up LB" is kind of vague without saying why
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alastairp
yes, I know "implement LB-1" or similar is a good reason, but I think explicit is better than implicit
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alastairp
anyway, I agree. if we can get people coming in saying "hey, I set this up and tried some things, what should I do next" I think that's a lot better than "hey, I want to work on x, what should I do?"
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Freso
Agreed.
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Freso should also really look into getting factoids set up for BrainzBot
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alastairp
so, let's see if these comments change the tone of questions around MB and LB
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alastairp
s/MB/AB/
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Freso
*B :)
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alastairp
[AL]B
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Freso
(A|L)B
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alastairp
well. that's the same as [AL] :)
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alastairp
I guess it depends what grammar you use
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alastairp
(A|L)+B
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alastairp
I'm trying to clean up GettingStarted to include some less-MBS specific stuff
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alastairp
Freso: is the submission template on the wiki?
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Freso
GSoC application? Yes.
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alastairp
It'd be nice to expose students to it before they apply
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alastairp
where?
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Freso
Summer of Code/Application Template or something like that. It's linked from the blog post at least.
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alastairp
OK, I'll add it to some other wiki pages too
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Freso
:)
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Freso
Thank you alastairp.
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alastairp
you're welcome, head of community Freso
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alastairp
;)
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Freso
:p
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cetko
Hi guys, I'm interested in contributing to me MetaBrainz via gsoc this year
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cetko
So I came to say 'Hi'
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cetko
:)
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Gentlecat
hello
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alastairp
hi
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cetko
Concretely, I'd like to work on AcousticBrainz, because it includes (as I understood it) lightweight machine learning experience
Freso: "lightweight" as in "It would suit someone with experience or an interest in machine learning algorithms, though the majority of the project will probably involve creating infrastructure around our existing algorithms." :)
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alastairp
we don't have any concrete proposals specifically around the machine learning algorithms
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alastairp
right, as you've just seen
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alastairp
however if you wanted to propose something we could probably make it fit
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alastairp
new algorithms to see how they compare to SMV? Random Forest? Deep learning?
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cetko
I'll check the link above and AcousticBrainz docs and see if anything comes to mind
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Gentlecat
Freso: wouldn't it discourage people from discussing a project if there is no category for it? doesn't seem like the right approach to me
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cetko
alastairp: how do Python and Flask come into play with AcousticBrainz since they're listed on the ideas page?
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alastairp
the server is written in flask
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alastairp
there's a audio feature extractor written in C++ which performs the signal processing and outputs json
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alastairp
then the webserver does stuff with it
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alastairp
"stuff"
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alastairp
discouse is pretty buggy
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CatQuest
how do I turn of smilies in my post on discourse?
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sandy_
Hi ...I am Sandeep bharti currently pursuing my under graduate program in computer science and I am interested in the Listenbrainz:Statistics project as listed in the project ideas for GSoC 2016. Can anyone help me in how to get started ? Thanks in advance :)
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Gentlecat
hey. one way to start is to try and install ListenBrainz to get familiar with some things
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cetko
alastairp: is there a git repo for the webserver code?
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cetko
nevermind, found it!
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alastairp
sandy_: there is a "Getting started" section on the Ideas page. You should see if you can follow that at first
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alastairp
cetko: cool
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sandy_
okay it looks cool. I will follow that for now, thanks :)
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Gentlecat
kind of weird that h3 and h4 look exactly the same in the wiki
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alastairp
Gentlecat: yeah
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cetko
I see an issue notice about the statistics chart on the accousticbrainz webpage, what kind of issue?
a side note, I've recently dabbled with real-time databases (InfluxDB) for pageview analytics, would that be of any interest for the statistics part of acousticbrainz?
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alastairp
AB stats aren't really that critical
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alastairp
and their scale is quite small. we have a few rows per hour storing counts, and that's it
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cetko
yes, but as I understand it, the c++ submission code outputs json, are those raw time-series data?
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cetko
or aggregated?
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alastairp
ah, no. statistics is just a time series of the number of data submissions we have
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alastairp
the output of the feature extractor is not time series
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kartikgupta0909
alastairp: Replied to your comments on my ideas. Please have a look whenever possible and we can discuss it further.
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alastairp
we take a mean (and other statistics) over the entire contents of the audio file
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alastairp
however, we are looking at storing complete time-series data in the future as well (we call it frame-level data)
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alastairp
I wonder if a real-time db would be the kind of thing that we can use to store this frame level data
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cetko
alastairp: how far in the future? this summer? :)
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alastairp
perhaps
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alastairp
the extractor generates the data with a configuration option switched on
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alastairp
we currently store json in postgres, in a jsonb field
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alastairp
however once we generate the extended data it's too large to store in postgres (10MB/minute)
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alastairp
we don't actually know how to store it yet. I had a look into protocol buffers, but I'm also interested in looking at other options
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cetko
what's the extended data?
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alastairp
one sec, let me see if I can find an example
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himanshu25
Hi again... sorry I lost my connection then... I'm interested in "ListenBrainz: Statistics" ... So how should I proceed?
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alastairp
in fact, you could probably generate it yourself
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alastairp
have you downloaded streaming_extractor_music ?
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alastairp
himanshu25: take a look at the "Getting started" section for listenbrainz on the wiki
