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      • Freso
        And I'll send the ball on to chirlu!
      • chirlu: It was you that added the "nostalgia edition" DR, right?
      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: DR “nostalgia edition”: MBS-6396, MBS-7501, MBS-7564 (chirlu?); DR: MBS-3722 (Freso)
      • chirlu
        Yes. Those three tickets are of the type “Bring back $something as it used to be!”, which is why I called this nostalgia edition.
      • I don’t think we have any plans for that, so I’d like to have them wontfixed.
      • ruaok
        Make 'merica grate again?
      • Freso
      • (For the lazy ones.)
      • chirlu
        Trump edition?
      • bitmap
        wontfix, wontfix, not sure
      • ruaok
        bitmap: thank you and your fellow cityfolk for rebuffing that boffin, BTW!
      • chirlu
        Would require loading all the URL cleanup stuff on every page.
      • Or loading on demand for the popup, which somewhat defies the idea (no load time).
      • reosarevok
        Missing entities *definitely* wontfix
      • bitmap
        ruaok: he won't be coming back :)
      • reosarevok
        The other two I don't mind
      • Freso voted on MBS-7564...
      • I didn't vote for 7564, but I could see the use
      • Freso
        And yeah, MBS-7501 is definitely a wontfix.
      • 6396... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      • reosarevok
        But on the other hand, we've done work to make it so there's only one place to do things, and adding that back would go against that
      • ruaok
        bitmap: +100
      • Freso defers the decision to bitmap
      • bitmap
        15:49:19 < bitmap> wontfix, wontfix, not sure
      • :P
      • Freso
        I guess we'll DR 6396 some other day then. :)
      • chirlu
        So, close the first two and leave the other to rot while open?
      • Freso
        chirlu: Yeah.
      • chirlu
        OK
      • Freso
        Will 3722 be "Fixed" by the "unified search and browse interface" getting done, bitmap?
      • bitmap
        nope
      • kepstin
        I guess we need to come up with a new next step for 3722 now that the mailing lists are gone ;)
      • Freso
        kepstin: That's not hard though.
      • bitmap
        requires some additional work on MBS to expose the /all endpoint
      • Freso
        Anyway, I think the next step for that ticket is for CJ_ to implement it in the SOLR project.
      • bitmap
        so I told ruchiranga not to implement a UI for that
      • Freso
        Okay.
      • kepstin
        my impression is that the results aren't really merged atm - it basically searches multiple things in parallel and returns multiple sets of results?
      • Freso
        Should I make a discussion about it on Discourse about "what [people] would like to see here"?
      • bitmap: Does ruchiranga's code rely on that unified search endpoint?
      • bitmap
        no, I told him not to do anything that requires that
      • Freso
        It might be easier and saner for CJ_ to just disregard what ijabz may have done for the current SEARCH server.
      • Though that brings us back to scratch.
      • But eh.
      • CJ_ bitmap, final thoughts on that?
      • bitmap
        I'm not sure what the decision needed was :P
      • Freso
        If not, that's what I'm going to go forward with: MBS-3722 being dependent on SOLR project getting finished and SOLR project having a unified search interface thingy.
      • bitmap
        sure
      • Freso
        If someone's unhappy with that, they have about 10 seconds to object.
      • I'll make it so.
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      • Thanks for your attention. :)
      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews
      • kepstin
        tbh, now that the site is indexed, we're really competing with doing a google search for "site:musicbrainz.org some keywords" with this unified search project
      • (which, for me, returns the release by madonna as the first result)
      • LordSputnik
        ruaok: You don't think Trump is the best of the three remaining options? :P
      • (for Republican nominees, anyway)
      • reosarevok
        LordSputnik: are the other two options "Sony Music" and "Mutual Nuclear Annihilation"?
      • Freso
        I thought MNA was Trump?
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      • LordSputnik
        reosarevok: Ted Cruz is a nutcase who's both more likely to get into the White House and has worse policies. Don't know about Rubio though :P
      • ruaok
        LordSputnik: THAT>
      • I always thought that Trump was a decoy for Cruz.
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      • yeeeargh
        not gegen elend :D
      • gcilou
        I turn 18 four days before election day... who knows if I even want to vote then :)
      • reosarevok
        gcilou: if the option is crazy Republican nutjob and literally anyone else, please do vote
      • LordSputnik
        ^ that
      • reosarevok
        Save us from them :p
      • gcilou
        lol, I will vote :P
      • ruaok
        there is only one non-nutjob in the running.
      • LordSputnik
        Hillary may be untrustowrthy, but at least she isn't some redneck climate-change denying bible basher/fascist
      • Bernie's pretty cool but I think super delegates have screwed him over
      • Freso
      • gcilou: There's always the Green Party ❤️
      • gcilou
        hehe
      • kepstin has never really understood how us presidential candidates are chosen
      • LordSputnik
        kepstin: each party hosts preliminary votes (from what I can tell, either "primaries" or "caucuses"). The majority vote chooses the Republican candidate. The majority vote plus some extra party elite votes chooses the Democratic candidate
      • Caucuses seem to be some weird "move around a room" thing, while primaries are more traditional voting
      • and when they can't be bothered to count the votes anymore, they flip a coin and decide who to assign their delegates to
      • :P
      • kepstin
        in canada, each party chooses (in advance, and however they like, but it usually involves a vote by party members and interested registered citizens) someone to be their party leader.
      • that leader is then elected as a member of parliament, the same as any other mp
      • LordSputnik
        kepstin: that's how it works in the UK
      • kepstin
        and the party that wins the most seats picks the prime minister
      • LordSputnik
        It's because we basically have the same political system, as does Australia
      • kepstin
        makes sense, canadian system was modeled after uk ;)
      • gcilou
        uh parliament, prime minister? lol, long live 'murica !
      • kepstin
        i think the theory is that the elected members of parliament choose amongst themselves one person to be the prime minister, but in reality with parties the candidates for the position are picked well in advance
      • LordSputnik
        gcilou: but I like having a political system which sort of works ;)
      • gcilou
        hehe yeahhh. I guess that's the goal ;)
      • kepstin
        there's some awkwardness where it's possible that the leader of a party doesn't get elected, but other members of the party do :)
      • Freso
        "sort of"...
      • LordSputnik
        Freso: ie. one that doesn't shut down the public sector twice in 4 years ;)
      • kepstin
        (in that case, usually one of the other members gives up their seat, and a byelection is held where the party leader runs in their place)
      • gcilou
        honestly, I don't understand politics whatsoever. especially us politics
      • Freso
        Does anyone understand US politics?
      • LordSputnik
        kepstin: haha, except not if you're the Liberal Democrats in the UK, where they went from 60 MPs to just 4
      • gcilou
        I doubt it :)
      • Freso
        CJ_: If you didn't see the link before: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/SOLR-25
      • bitmap
        Gentlecat: would you be ok with doing http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-8838? kinda boring but useful
      • Gentlecat
        sure, boring is OK as long as I'm helping
      • bitmap
        :)
      • reosarevok
        ruaok, Freso: do we need to save / backup anything from Melange before it goes down?
      • ruaok
        no, can we please add fire??
      • reosarevok
        :p
      • I meant the data, not the code
      • Although honestly I'm not very convinced the new system is more than a side step in quality of life :p
      • ruaok
        if I can avoid ever touching it again, great. :)
      • reosarevok
        Assuming it's exactly the same as for the GCI
      • bitmap
        ruaok: the pre-ngs tables are backed up somewhere in case we need them, right?
      • just wondering if I need to do anything before dropping them
      • LordSputnik
        Was Melange really that bad then?
      • reosarevok
        LordSputnik: it was better than ruaok makes it sound. But not much
      • ruaok
        reosarevok: you never used it in the early days. eeek.
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: I don't really have any history with Melange, so I wouldn't know if there's anything there that needs saving.
      • ruaok
        bitmap: unsure. I suppose the last pre-NGS dumps should contain everthing therein.
      • reosarevok
        Freso: I was mostly thinking that maybe you wanted to save some GSoC history or something
      • ruaok
        for archival sake, we might want to save a copy, but be very careful with disk space on totoro.
      • Freso
        reosarevok: I'm not sure I have more than public access anyway...
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      • ruaok is simultaneously wanting to saunter over to the office and at the same time too lazy to do it
      • ruaok: I hope you don't judge MusicBrainz' data by how it was in the early days... :)
      • ruaok
        don't get me started. :)
      • Freso
        You're too lazy to start anyway. ;)
      • Leftmost: Did you log in to Discourse since the SSO was replaced?
      • ruaok
        lol
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      • zas
        ruaok: should i create a ticket to have Purple Haze Levels in MB ? http://morefuzz.net/atmosphere-levels/ ;)
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      • reosarevok
        "I love that people would rather freely give away money for instructions to cancel Tidal than actually pay for Tidal."
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      • I also voted for that
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      • natta guys <3
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