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        Leftmost: sweet, glad to hear that
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      • ruaok
        reosarevok: "Coge mi móvil y llámalo." gets translated to "Take my mobile and call him."
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      • ruaok
        (in babbel)
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      • ruaok
        Shouldn't it be "llámale" ?
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      • alastairp
        ohh, that one is difficult
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      • alastairp
        in Barcelona, people tend to say le, which is from Catalan
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      • alastairp
        but him/her should be lo/le
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      • alastairp
        lo/la, I mean
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      • ruaok
        remind me when is the le used in this context?
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      • ruaok
        formal?
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      • alastairp
        I'm still really hazy about this
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      • ruaok
        oh good, not just me then. :)
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      • alastairp
        I think it's the difference between he/him
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      • alastairp
        le gusta
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      • alastairp
        he likes it
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      • alastairp
        llamalo
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      • alastairp
        call him
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      • ruaok
        ah!
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      • ruaok
        ok, thanks.
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      • ruaok
        her/she, are both cases always la?
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      • ruaok
        or lo/la as well?
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      • alastairp
        le -> he/she/they
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      • alastairp
        http://www.spanishdict.com/topics/show/56 oh, it's a little more complex
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      • alastairp
        it depends if it's the direct object or indirect object
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      • ruaok
        yeah, I'm only talking about indirect in this case.
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      • ruaok
        oh and do you know this site? http://www.esfacil.eu/en/verbs/conjugation ?
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      • ruaok
        very clear for looking up conjugations. much better than wordreference.com
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      • alastairp
        rob waters the flowers (he [direct] waters them [indirect])
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      • alastairp
        I use spanishdict
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      • alastairp
        it has human curated equivalents, especially for common phrases
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      • ruaok
        that's really useful. I'll dig in more.
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      • ruaok
        thanks.
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      • alastairp
        e.g. http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/sick -> also has translation for "sick of/fed up with"
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      • zas
        ruaok: i found a minor difference between servers concerning exim confs, some are using /etc/exim4/exim4.local.conf and some /etc/exim4/exim.conf.local , and of course the include in the main conf file reflects this. I wonder from where this difference is coming
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      • ruaok
        hmmm.
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      • ruaok
        can we make the switch to gmail soon? please?
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      • ruaok
        we still have shit breaking, boucing and things not working right.
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      • zas
        ruaok: yes, i'm on it, but this issue is related to local exim installs (which we have to keep for servers to be able to send mails)
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      • zas
        i found one source for this difference: https://github.com/metabrainz/syswiki/blob/master…
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      • zas
        since i'll need to update exim conf on all servers to use gmail and because an issue with config appeared after yesterday upgrade (cron noise, due to a security fix in exim)
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      • zas
        i'm trying to unify things, after i noticed we have slight and useless differences between servers
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      • Freso
        !m zas
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      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, zas!
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      • zas
        ok, i fixed differences and the cron issue (at least on DWNI servers), i'll do the switch to gmail for musicbrainz.org this afternoon
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      • Freso
        🙌
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      • ruaok
        \ø/
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      • ruaok
        thank you zas!
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      • Freso
        zas: Does the fixed difference mean I can re-send the verification now even if we haven't switched over to gmail yet?
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      • zas
        nope, this is only paths change, no impact on wiley config
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      • zas
        wiley was never configured to relay mails with '+' in it (user+extre@musicbrainz.org)
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      • zas
        and this is the issue you have
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      • alastairp
        can someone point me to an item which has "credited as" in a relationship?
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      • alastairp
        my understanding is it's used when we say that it's a person, but they are called something else?
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      • Freso
        alastairp: Like, a relationship with an artist credit?
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      • Freso
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      • alastairp
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      • alastairp
        the "credited as" column
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      • alastairp
        I'm trying to see what it looks like in the ws
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      • Freso
        Yes, that's what I mean by artist credit in a relationship :)