When you have some time can you PM me so we can discuss solr?
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weeksio
sure...not today though...medterm in a few hours
2016-03-21 08100, 2016
weeksio
midterm
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ruaok would love to see some forward progress on the SOLR project.
2016-03-21 08125, 2016
ruaok
weeksio: as long as the SOLR project moves forward...
2016-03-21 08135, 2016
weeksio
cool
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ruaok
weeksio: what did you have in mind? Mind you that we're unlikely to accept a project in java.
2016-03-21 08157, 2016
ruaok
we're only accepting java because of SOLR/Lucene.
2016-03-21 08118, 2016
weeksio
there's a possibility of me getting a uni position that would let me work on MB stuff as part of the job (still, merely a possibility....it's been floated)
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ruaok
thats promising. :)
2016-03-21 08107, 2016
weeksio
music library / software engineer / data discovery
2016-03-21 08135, 2016
weeksio
I'm interested in working on the "works" entity...
2016-03-21 08118, 2016
weeksio
Possibly working on a way to include musical incipits...like a thematic catalog
2016-03-21 08135, 2016
weeksio
language doesn't matter...
2016-03-21 08104, 2016
weeksio
(I even did a project in perl earlier this year :P)
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ruaok
eww. :)
2016-03-21 08126, 2016
ruaok
well, if you are thinking of doing something, make sure to get your proposal going asap. not much time left.
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weeksio
I know
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weeksio
sure....there's always solr....
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ruaok
lol
2016-03-21 08101, 2016
ruaok
you know I'd accept that project in a heartbeat.
2016-03-21 08115, 2016
ruaok
we could do the same thing I did with gentlecat. part coding part deployment.
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weeksio
hehe
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weeksio
I'll start working on the proposal tonight after this midterm....I have this idea of parsing musicxml data into a normalized (for key/tempo) into binary vectors for possible QBH...thought crowd sourcing (using "crowd" loosely) incipits in musicxml would be a good start....could move on to monophonic musical strings (related to works) down the road...
weeksio: one issue I could see with that is that our current works often represent a slightly generic thing
2016-03-21 08131, 2016
reosarevok
(especially for non-classical works, where a black metal cover is linked to the same work as the original pop song)
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weeksio
shouldn't it be, though
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reosarevok
Yeah, I just mean that the notes played could vary in the cover and that might be weird for an incipit displaying notes
2016-03-21 08137, 2016
reosarevok
But maybe you don't mean score-style incipits :)
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weeksio
it's like an arranged work....or an instance of a work
2016-03-21 08101, 2016
weeksio
that's exactly what I mean
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weeksio
but the work is it's own thing
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reosarevok
I guess :)
2016-03-21 08135, 2016
weeksio
it exists outside of a specific performance
2016-03-21 08136, 2016
reosarevok
We do have separate works for arrangements now in classical
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reosarevok
(at least for written-down, published arrangements)
2016-03-21 08123, 2016
reosarevok
I'd slightly prefer a "one work, many arrangements" system but that'd require yet another level for "arrangement" and people are usually confused enough by track - recording - work :p
2016-03-21 08128, 2016
reosarevok
(plus a good UI for that sounds hard)
2016-03-21 08140, 2016
reosarevok
I still think it'd work with a good UI, but...
2016-03-21 08107, 2016
weeksio
in library subject heading terms, you would have <composer> -> <work> -> and then...
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weeksio
we tag on an "arranged" subheading
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reosarevok
Yeah, I've seen some libraries do that :)
2016-03-21 08124, 2016
weeksio
then you would have albums that "contain a work"
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reosarevok
Anyway, anything that makes MB more useful to libraries (and brings more classical cataloguing people to help me :p) is good
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weeksio
If my uni thing pans out, I'd like to incorporate MB data into our catalog...
ruaok: we need some machines to do some high level computation on for this paper
2016-03-21 08105, 2016
reosarevok
While I imagine a library would have it as " Symphony No. 5 in C minor, Op. 67 (arr. for piano)" linked to the main work somehow?
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alastairp
any chance of getting some google vms for 2-3 days?
2016-03-21 08140, 2016
reosarevok
But honestly, anything that is "improve classical music handling in MB" is likely to get a +1 from me, even if it only affects me marginally at first :)
2016-03-21 08124, 2016
weeksio
I'd be happy to carry the classical music torch for MB :P
2016-03-21 08156, 2016
reosarevok
Have you tried to edit classical music in MB?
2016-03-21 08107, 2016
reosarevok
(it's gotten a bit better but it's still kinda weird :p)
2016-03-21 08154, 2016
weeksio
(embarrassingly no)
2016-03-21 08159, 2016
weeksio
I need to try t out
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reosarevok
Give it a go, note other things that you feel need improving, throw some of them into the proposal as "once I'm done with this" :p
(one thing I'd look into for example, since you want to work with works anyway, are possible improvements to work display, both in the work's page and the composer's)
2016-03-21 08152, 2016
reosarevok
For example, https://musicbrainz.org/artist/b972f589-fb0e-474e… would be much less terrible if the pagination would be less strict and the movements for the works would get collapsed under the main work for display
2016-03-21 08118, 2016
weeksio
I better run...but I'll check the logs later
2016-03-21 08138, 2016
reosarevok
Except we can't always do that without further thought, because it probably makes more sense to display Beethoven's op. 10 as three entries even if they have op. 10 as the parent work :p
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reosarevok
Any ideas for stuff like that would be nice to hear, even if you don't actually get to work on those :)
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reosarevok
But ok, run now and ask whenever :)
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weeksio
sure thing!
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reosarevok
ruaok: I would possibly be up to mentoring that one, since it seems that any help needed would be more re: how this stuff is done in MB and less re: code itself
2016-03-21 08152, 2016
reosarevok
(not the solr one though, that option would be all yours, I have no clue about that)
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reosarevok
bitmap: your proposal for alternate tracklists is specifically based on keeping the same tracklists and just having translated titles, right?
2016-03-21 08153, 2016
reosarevok
(was thinking about Hybrid SACDs and DualDiscs again)
2016-03-21 08110, 2016
reosarevok
(but I guess those would make everything much more complicated)
alastairp: how many, what types and will you guarantee that you'll shut them off when you're done with them?
2016-03-21 08126, 2016
alastairp
ruaok: we're currently trying with the hpc cluster here - so we may be OK
2016-03-21 08147, 2016
alastairp
however, if we want them, we want something with 4-8 cores, perhaps 5 of them, and yes, I'll turn them off immediately after
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alastairp
I'll let you know in an hour where we're at
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ruaok
yay, BMAT is going to try and lunchsplain chrisskye and myself one more time. :)
2016-03-21 08150, 2016
reosarevok
Are they paying for your lunch?
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reosarevok
Because it might be cheaper for them to just pay up... :p
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ruaok
they always have, but chrisskye and I are going to stay firm on this one.
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Mike_Aiir
Hey, the installation has all gone to plan this time and I got MusicBrainz Server all up and running. Just wondering what I have to do now to setup the replication from your master DB?
2016-03-21 08149, 2016
Mike_Aiir
I have our access token setup in the DBDefs.pm file
2016-03-21 08111, 2016
Mike_Aiir
Just wondering if there's anything else I need to setup or start running, cron job or such?
2016-03-21 08120, 2016
ruaok
cron job, yes.
2016-03-21 08127, 2016
ruaok
hang on.
2016-03-21 08117, 2016
ruaok
meh. pink unicorns on github
2016-03-21 08124, 2016
ruaok
run musicbrainz-server/admin/replication/LoadReplicationChanges about 10 minutes after the hour.
2016-03-21 08138, 2016
ruaok
but first, run it by hand to ensure it catches up and everything else is working
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Mike_Aiir
cool, thank you
2016-03-21 08159, 2016
ruaok
da nada. :)
2016-03-21 08106, 2016
Mike_Aiir
there's no mention of that on the manual installation document
2016-03-21 08136, 2016
Mike_Aiir
may be worth slipping that in as well somewhere in the readme
ah, crap forgot about the docs on the main site, sorry!
2016-03-21 08150, 2016
Mike_Aiir
and I'll see what I can do ;)
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CJ_
ruaok, Unfortunately, solr has been stalled because I have not had the spare brain cycles to put against it.
2016-03-21 08116, 2016
ruaok
yeah, you mentioned. :(
2016-03-21 08123, 2016
CJ_
I know roughly where the problem lies but have not honed in on it yet.
2016-03-21 08121, 2016
chirlu
Mike_Aiir: There is also a wrapper script admin/cron/slave.sh that will write some log files and rotate them.
2016-03-21 08145, 2016
chirlu
Besides calling LoadReplicationChanges.
2016-03-21 08125, 2016
ruaok
gah, I keep forgetting about that script. thanks for the reminder chirlu
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Mike_Aiir
ahhh sweet, that could be useful!
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Mike_Aiir
where would the logs end up getting written to?
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kepstin
I think it makes a file ... cron.log? or something like that? in either the musicbrainz user's home directory or the top-level musicbrainz-server directory
2016-03-21 08145, 2016
kepstin
been a while since I set this up last :)
2016-03-21 08136, 2016
Mike_Aiir
cool, thanks guys!
2016-03-21 08158, 2016
chirlu
Yes, it’s in the musicbrainz-server directory.
2016-03-21 08114, 2016
Mike_Aiir
slave.log!
2016-03-21 08128, 2016
chirlu
Yes, exactly.
2016-03-21 08122, 2016
Mike_Aiir
sweet, excellent pretty much all up and running now! Thanks for all the help!
2016-03-21 08145, 2016
chirlu
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