OK, you should be able to add yourself as a "manager", since you're an admin - I've done it for you for now (for future reference, you can probably go to /admin > Channels > <channel_name> then add yourself under the membership bit at the bottom)
kepstin: true, but there's still non-zero risk, and when we've allocated millions of them it might be significant enough to be a problem?
2016-04-01 09232, 2016
kepstin
millions? no.
2016-04-01 09228, 2016
kepstin
"only after generating 1 billion UUIDs every second for the next 100 years, the probability of creating just one duplicate would be about 50%"
2016-04-01 09207, 2016
LordSputnik
kepstin: at the moment the possibility of a collision is about 5x10^-22
2016-04-01 09226, 2016
LordSputnik
So, you're right, probably not worth worrying about
2016-04-01 09247, 2016
kepstin
that said, if people screw up the RNG, you can get collisions all over the place
2016-04-01 09251, 2016
kepstin
interesting post recently where people using PHP in Apache in prefork MPM mode, it failed to properly re-initialize the openssl RNG when forking. So as soon as you hit a PID wraparound, you got duplicate UUIDs
2016-04-01 09225, 2016
ybsar_
|off] Freso: What about a name change to SpotifyAteMyBrainz? That would take only 30 min. in the oven. Serve it with a slice of lemon.
2016-04-01 09246, 2016
Freso
ybsar_: You need to prefix with "[off]" if you don't want the message in the logs.
2016-04-01 09256, 2016
Freso
Pipes or other characters will not work.
2016-04-01 09252, 2016
ybsar_
Even my keyboard is in a good mood today.
2016-04-01 09231, 2016
Freso
Also, I suggest you revisit the blog post in ~24 hours. :)
I think the reply we want would be "For now, commercial users can use BookBrainz for free, but when we get bigger, we'll adopt the same terms of usage for our API as the MusicBrainz webservice"
He says "for companies with commercial usage (of BB data), but don't want to pay ("finance"), do you have a solution ?"
2016-04-01 09246, 2016
zas
so i think your answer is correct
2016-04-01 09253, 2016
Freso
"Find something else." :p
2016-04-01 09201, 2016
zas
;)
2016-04-01 09225, 2016
LordSputnik
Freso: :P "Speak to chrisskye"
2016-04-01 09240, 2016
zas
LordSputnik: on the second one, i'm not sure what it means, even in French ;)
2016-04-01 09252, 2016
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chrisskye
I think you should suggest a general donation to MetaBrainz.
2016-04-01 09201, 2016
zas
"And do you have mutual agreements ? I referenced a super solution at ..."
2016-04-01 09216, 2016
alastairp
wow, PR view on github seems to be really buggy
2016-04-01 09225, 2016
alastairp
zas: you can say reciprocal in english :)
2016-04-01 09254, 2016
chrisskye
I would rather we not talk about permissions to use for free - access is open and encouraged - so is donating!
2016-04-01 09236, 2016
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alastairp
hah
2016-04-01 09232, 2016
navap
reosarevok: :( I've been getting those monthly emails for a couple of years now
2016-04-01 09232, 2016
chrisskye
zas; LordSputnik Could you write a nice comment back just to say we really appreciate commercial users of all projects to give...even if it is just a one time thing. We’re open to all sorts of proposals for open sharing...
2016-04-01 09237, 2016
LordSputnik
OK, so we'll reply to the first and leave the second one dangling - "En ce moment, entreprises peuvent utiliser du API de BookBrainz gratuitement, mais dans le futur, nous adopterons
2016-04-01 09248, 2016
LordSputnik
....
2016-04-01 09256, 2016
LordSputnik
termes identiques a MusicBrainz"?
2016-04-01 09228, 2016
LordSputnik
chrisskye: Oh, OK
2016-04-01 09248, 2016
LordSputnik
chrisskye: to be honest, I don't think it's fair to charge people to use BB data right now :P
2016-04-01 09254, 2016
reosarevok
navap: we get the Ninja Tune feed a few times a month. But right now the only half-decent way to add it is to just have someone do it by hand from the files, which can take much longer than just clicking "import" on iTunes with a userscript :p
2016-04-01 09257, 2016
Freso
Oh, and LordSputnik, are you up for doing the Twitter key dance so I can add @BB to future retweet trains?
2016-04-01 09200, 2016
LordSputnik
I'd just appreciate the publicity and potential new contributers
2016-04-01 09202, 2016
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LordSputnik
Freso: yup
2016-04-01 09218, 2016
Freso
Alright, let me make a request.
2016-04-01 09244, 2016
chrisskye
LordSputnik: It isn’t a “charge”.
2016-04-01 09212, 2016
chrisskye
We’re a not for profit. We take donations. Donations help us to create, host and maintain the projects.
2016-04-01 09237, 2016
zas
LordSputnik: yes, fine
2016-04-01 09259, 2016
LordSputnik
chrisskye: OK
2016-04-01 09202, 2016
zas
", entreprises" -> ", les entreprises"
2016-04-01 09212, 2016
chrisskye
Please all. Remember supporters aren’t paying because they are buying something. They are helping be better and keep up what we’re doing.
2016-04-01 09221, 2016
LordSputnik
zas: just coming up with something else
2016-04-01 09238, 2016
chrisskye
*helping us
2016-04-01 09247, 2016
Freso
chrisskye: :)
2016-04-01 09206, 2016
LordSputnik
chrisskye: but what if a commercial user has no money? Eg. a startup with very small or no profit?
2016-04-01 09227, 2016
chrisskye
Then we just share.
2016-04-01 09241, 2016
chrisskye
We ask for support based on ability to pay.
2016-04-01 09249, 2016
Freso
LordSputnik: MeB has a tier for those.
2016-04-01 09251, 2016
reosarevok
Those socialists...
2016-04-01 09252, 2016
reosarevok
:p
2016-04-01 09228, 2016
chrisskye
This is so hard to explain to big corporations...that they should pay because it is the right thing to do, not because they are buying something.
2016-04-01 09253, 2016
CJ_
chrisskye, That is hard to explain to a lot of people as well.
2016-04-01 09256, 2016
Leftmost
reosarevok, yeah, geez. What's wrong with them?
2016-04-01 09200, 2016
reosarevok
I mean, if they cared about the right thing to do they probably wouldn't be running a big corporation, would they :p
2016-04-01 09228, 2016
chrisskye
hahahah Our new (soon to be) bank manager asked me yesterday...’but, if you’re not for profit...how does that work?'
2016-04-01 09237, 2016
Freso
LordSputnik: I /query'd you btw.
2016-04-01 09239, 2016
LordSputnik
OK, so I'll say this: "If a commercial user is able to pay, we'd appreciate them becoming a sponsor and giving something back - https://metabrainz.org/supporters"
2016-04-01 09243, 2016
Freso
Not sure how long the link will work.
2016-04-01 09251, 2016
LordSputnik
s/sponsor/supporter
2016-04-01 09200, 2016
LordSputnik
Now to get that into French :P
2016-04-01 09222, 2016
chrisskye
reosarevok: Well...that is too simplified...it takes a lot of individuals all with families and stuff to runa corp... Many individuals aren’t bad or greedy they just made a choice....took a job...
2016-04-01 09226, 2016
alastairp
chrisskye: because not for profit means we make no revenue
2016-04-01 09248, 2016
chrisskye
^I know that.
2016-04-01 09255, 2016
reosarevok
chrisskye: I know, I know, slightly facetious there
2016-04-01 09217, 2016
Leftmost takes a mental crack at the French in prepration for finding out he was totally wrong.
2016-04-01 09232, 2016
chrisskye
k. I love sarcasm. I just don’t see it so easily in chat.
2016-04-01 09244, 2016
chrisskye
Or, convey it well. :p
2016-04-01 09201, 2016
reosarevok
I'm sure there are some people who run corps (rather than just work for them) and are still very nice people. I'm not too sure how common that is, but I'm hoping more than I expect :p
2016-04-01 09246, 2016
chrisskye
I think you guys know better than me...that Open Source is something that old economic models are still struggling with. I’d like to think this community is ahead of the game.
2016-04-01 09259, 2016
Freso
I'd hope so. :p
2016-04-01 09230, 2016
reosarevok
s/"Open Source"/"caring about anything that's not getting rich af"
2016-04-01 09236, 2016
LordSputnik
"Si une entreprise pourrait contribuer, nous apprécierions
2016-04-01 09243, 2016
Leo_Verto
LordSputnik, does "re.match" only match a prefix of a string?
