or another thing is that should I convert it into a patch by adding .diff in the url and just do git apply on my repo?
2016-04-11 10200, 2016
Freso
kartikgupta0909: No, do what Gentlecat said.
2016-04-11 10258, 2016
alastairp
hi
2016-04-11 10249, 2016
alastairp
kartikgupta0909: We also added you as a collaborator on the acousticbrainz repository so that you could push directly to the existing `datasetlist` branch
2016-04-11 10217, 2016
alastairp
you can do that by adding the repository as another remote
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Freso
ruaok: Would you mind terribly if we push the bot CoC until next week?
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting [at 19 UTC] agenda: Reviews, Bot CoC (Freso), PICARD-807 (reo)
2016-04-11 10250, 2016
ruaok
Leftmost, Leo_Verto: I'm getting a new BB SSL cert.
2016-04-11 10254, 2016
ruaok
do you need any subdomains?
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Freso
beta? test?
2016-04-11 10207, 2016
Freso
LordSputnik: ^
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Freso
(I think he reads logs anyway.)
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ruaok
ah. ok.
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The_Freso
Eh.
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Freso
Btw, seems like OpenSourceDays has started up again, and I missed it. :( Would have been nice to do another MB lightning talk.
2016-04-11 10219, 2016
ruaok
so, promusicdb. I'd love some feedback on this one.
2016-04-11 10210, 2016
ruaok
promusicdb was created by a well meaning lady who wants a music database that keeps track of all various aspects of data in the music industry.
2016-04-11 10231, 2016
ruaok
when I pointed out MB, she pretty much dismissed it out of hand.
2016-04-11 10241, 2016
ruaok
too this, not that, can't really use it for what we want.
2016-04-11 10246, 2016
ruaok
for years (close to 5 now) their website was a placeholder.
2016-04-11 10202, 2016
ruaok
and the new and improved web site doesn't work.
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Freso
Well, what kind of feedback do you want/what exactly do you want feedback on? What were their criticisms of MB?
2016-04-11 10242, 2016
ruaok
sorry, chrisskye and I are chatting about estoteric power options for spain.
2016-04-11 10215, 2016
Freso
:)
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ruaok
anways.
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ruaok
+y
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ruaok
their criticism of MB amounted to: We didn't invent it and we don't control it, so we can't use it.
2016-04-11 10203, 2016
ruaok
so, then yesterday they signed up as a non-profit, pledging $100/month.
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Freso
Well, there's not much to say to that, other than "good luck" then?
2016-04-11 10213, 2016
Freso
Oh.
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Freso
But why do you want to subscribe to our data if they can't use our data?
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ruaok
I think reality is setting in.
2016-04-11 10201, 2016
ruaok
but I am not really interested in giving them access to the live data feed.
2016-04-11 10250, 2016
ruaok
so, I am not sure what to tell them.
2016-04-11 10234, 2016
Freso
Did you talk with chrisskye about it?
2016-04-11 10217, 2016
ruaok
I'm having this discussion so the chrisskye can follow along. but I think she is still engrossed in the byzantine power setup they have here. :)
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chrisskye
reading...
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chrisskye
I think I will start with my ignorant welcome email and asking what they are doing...
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ruaok
oh, that is a good plan. make sure to get a very clear picture of what service they want.
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chrisskye
Freso: I believe we can make policies on who gets access to the data at what time intervals. It sits on our servers, right? This is about speed, not yes/no.
2016-04-11 10252, 2016
chrisskye
Although...I also believe many aspects of the project could be subject to IP rights, should we care to enforce them.
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Freso
chrisskye: Sure, but AFAIK we don't have a policy right now, so any rejection would be arbitrary.
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chrisskye
I would 1) ask them what they are doing including confirmation that they are a registered non-profit
2016-04-11 10204, 2016
chrisskye
2) take the donation, as supporters/donors are voluntary
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chrisskye
3) start with access/limited
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chrisskye
Freso: we kinda do have policies; they just need to be published
2016-04-11 10209, 2016
Freso
chrisskye: Yes, please.
2016-04-11 10216, 2016
chrisskye
it is totally normal in business to negotiate with each individual client
2016-04-11 10218, 2016
Freso
Hidden/private policies are no good, IMO.
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chrisskye
every use case is different; every project is different.
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ruaok
Freso: when it comes to business that doesn't apply so easily.
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chrisskye
these are donors/supporters and we are looking for fairness...so we have to be flexible
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ruaok
that ^
2016-04-11 10212, 2016
ruaok
if we publish everything to last bit of detail, we bind our hands to be flexible.
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chrisskye
Some people may have great projects, but little money.
2016-04-11 10227, 2016
chrisskye
The use varies SO much. The users vary SO much.
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Freso
ruaok: Sure. But part of being "fair" is being transparent. Hidden/private policies are not transparent.
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ruaok
Freso: which is also why the tiers on the metabrainz site uses such nebulous terms.
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chrisskye
And...we need to be careful...because sometimes there are people trying to commercialize/compete without supporting well
2016-04-11 10244, 2016
chrisskye
we’re not trying to hide anything
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chrisskye
The policy of fairness...I’m telling people...it has to seem fair to our community!
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chrisskye
The Tiers are tough...I tell people it is based on ‘ability to pay’ more than use...because company size varies exponentially, whereas actual API use may or may not
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madmouser1
Hi zas many thanks for all your assisatence and patience
