20:03 PM
ruaok
who wants to guess that Universal will not renew?
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20:03 PM
alastairp
and then some time for questions, perhaps
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20:03 PM
reosarevok
ruaok: we're so cheap he might not even notice us :p
2016-04-11 10200, 2016
20:04 PM
alastairp
Freso: yeah, nothing stopping, but I do meetings when I see a notification come up from you and realise that I forgot it
2016-04-11 10208, 2016
20:04 PM
ruaok
also, what does it say that the founder of a company is leaving.
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20:04 PM
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20:04 PM
ruaok
will gracenote actually die soon?
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20:04 PM
Freso
(Along with the list of people to poke for reviews and the agenda.)
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20:04 PM
reosarevok
I imagine these people being like "ok what are our expenses over $30k per month?"
2016-04-11 10229, 2016
20:04 PM
ruaok is on the hook for throwing a warehouse party in SF if that happens
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20:04 PM
Freso
alastairp: Maybe I should also do a reminder ½-1 hour pre-meeting. :)
2016-04-11 10241, 2016
20:04 PM
ruaok
reosarevok: not money. politics
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20:04 PM
reosarevok
ruaok: if that happens, we should organise parties everywhere we are :p
2016-04-11 10203, 2016
20:05 PM
ruaok
yeah, we should.
2016-04-11 10204, 2016
20:05 PM
reosarevok
Synchronised MB parties
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20:05 PM
ruaok
with a giant hangout.
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20:05 PM
Freso
Don't we have friends in the Pirate Party? Or are you talking about having-a-good-time parties?
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20:05 PM
ruaok
that sounds like a lot of fun, actually.
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Freso
Oh, re: warehouse party.
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20:05 PM
ruaok
good time, Freso
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20:05 PM
reosarevok
And sure, but I just dunno how deep into the details a "Senior Vice President and Chief Technology Officer" would get
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20:06 PM
Freso goes back to writing up notes
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20:06 PM
alastairp
you're going to throw a pirate into a warehouse?
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20:06 PM
ruaok
speculating about the demise of gracenote. i know no one over there anymore. they all jumped ship
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20:06 PM
reosarevok
Freso: well their only MEP follows us on Twitter, but dunno if that makes us friends :p
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20:06 PM
ruaok
She's had free cocktails from Bartendo. does that make us friends?? :)
2016-04-11 10207, 2016
20:07 PM
Freso
I think maybe some Pirate Party people were at that MB lightning talk I did at OSD ~2 years ago.
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20:07 PM
Freso
But eh.
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20:07 PM
reosarevok
ruaok: despite what most Spanish people seem to think, having drinks with someone once doesn't automatically make you friends :p
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20:08 PM
ruaok
true that. but in this case, it was merely a pile of germans.
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20:08 PM
reosarevok
Is "a pile" the common name for Germans? :p
2016-04-11 10241, 2016
20:08 PM
ruaok
at chaos camp, so that is practically all friends.
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20:08 PM
reosarevok
"look, a flock of birds and a pile of Germans!"
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20:08 PM
ruaok
like a collective noun?
2016-04-11 10256, 2016
20:08 PM
ruaok
sure. :)
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20:09 PM
ruaok
what is the collective noun for a group of programmers?
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20:09 PM
ruaok
A merge conflict.
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20:09 PM
reosarevok
...
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20:09 PM
ruaok goes to make food
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20:09 PM
reosarevok
I imagine "what's the collective noun for a group of Estonians" would be "nope."
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20:09 PM
ruaok
I thought that was the finns.
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20:10 PM
reosarevok
Them too
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20:10 PM
reosarevok
"What's the best neighbour? The one of whom you just see the smoke from his farm's chimney"
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20:12 PM
armalcolite
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20:12 PM
reosarevok
I have this friend who quit his job in an IT company after a year because (among other reasons) he was going crazy because nobody would ever talk
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20:13 PM
reosarevok
Like, they wouldn't even say hi or bye
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20:13 PM
reosarevok
They went in, sat, programmed, stood up and left
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ruaok
must be very foreign to a spaniard.
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reosarevok
He was Romanian, but similar enough I suspect
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20:22 PM
reosarevok
It'd definitely be weird for me, although I guess I'd try speak to them until they answered or fired me :p
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20:27 PM
LordSputnik
reosarevok: that is weird :P And I can't imagine a company being successful like that unless everyone is working on a completely different product :P
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20:28 PM
reosarevok
dunno, maybe they had some work-only chat going on
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20:28 PM
zas
i had a look at PICARD-708, and i found weird things
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20:28 PM
reosarevok
But written, and no private talk :p
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20:29 PM
zas
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20:29 PM
Freso
armalcolite: Tab completion is your friend. ;)
2016-04-11 10243, 2016
20:29 PM
zas
Service Unavailable, HTTP code 200 ?
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20:29 PM
Freso
armalcolite: If you want to ping alastairp, try writing "ala" and then press tab.
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20:30 PM
reosarevok
Freso: funny that you say that given you wrote "reosareveok" when opening the meeting :p
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20:30 PM
Freso
That should prevent misplaced r's.
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20:30 PM
Freso
reosarevok: That's because I wrote your name in a text document and just copy/pasted from that. :)
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20:30 PM
armalcolite
Freso: oh. i never knew this works !!
2016-04-11 10246, 2016
20:30 PM
reosarevok
(I was wondering why it hadn't pinged me since I got home 22:20 and had no pings :p)
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20:30 PM
zas
Then i tried another release, and this time it returns Service Unavailable but with code 503
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20:31 PM
zas
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20:31 PM
zas
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20:31 PM
armalcolite
Freso: i have to check my older chats, might be doing the same since long. :(
2016-04-11 10237, 2016
20:31 PM
Freso
armalcolite: :)
2016-04-11 10204, 2016
20:32 PM
armalcolite
alastairp: did u check the PR?
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20:32 PM
zas
bitmap: isn't that weird we got same error message but different error code ? how come we get 200 if service isn't available ?
2016-04-11 10201, 2016
20:33 PM
zas
btw, it happened for the first 2 releases i tried, so not hard to reproduce :(
2016-04-11 10207, 2016
20:33 PM
bitmap
uhh, that should definitely not happen
2016-04-11 10249, 2016
20:33 PM
bitmap
yeah, I just got a 200 in the browser
2016-04-11 10253, 2016
20:35 PM
zas
it could explain a lot, if ss returns a 200 instead of a 503, but now we have to find from where it comes
2016-04-11 10207, 2016
20:39 PM
LordSputnik
Leftmost: just started debugging site/entity-data-sets. 5 minutes later realised I was on site/april-2016-react-cleanup :P
2016-04-11 10237, 2016
20:39 PM
Freso
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20:39 PM
Freso
Please look them over and let me know if I got something wrong.
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20:40 PM
bitmap
maybe I was looking at the wrong request. can't seem to trigger that anymore
2016-04-11 10235, 2016
20:40 PM
zas
bitmap: i wonder if it happens on first request (no cache or smt)
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20:41 PM
zas
you confirm you had an error, with a code 200 in the browser ?
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zas
1460406340.247 90.125.158.144 "GET /ws/2/release/6b3f5014-60e6-410d-a1b0-0c91c4518b8e?inc=release-groups+media+recordings+artist-credits+artists+aliases+labels+isrcs+collections+artist-rels+release-rels+url-rels+recording-rels+work-rels+recording-level-rels+work-level-rels+tags HTTP/1.1" 503 535 z=- up=10.1.1.33:80 ms=0.023 ums=0.023 ol=-
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20:42 PM
zas
h=musicbrainz.org:443
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20:42 PM
zas
this is from actual nginx logs
2016-04-11 10204, 2016
20:43 PM
zas
and it is the first request, with a 503 ...
2016-04-11 10218, 2016
20:43 PM
zas
so why Picard got 200 ??
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20:43 PM
zas
I suspect authentication or smt
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20:44 PM
zas
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20:44 PM
zas
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20:45 PM
zas
wtf, irccloud doens't propose pastebin anymore ...
2016-04-11 10227, 2016
20:45 PM
zas
anyways, last log is from another release, debug mode, picard, just now
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20:46 PM
zas
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20:46 PM
zas
And here what we have on server side (ernie proxy)
2016-04-11 10256, 2016
20:46 PM
zas
So Picard reports a 200, but server sent a 503 ...
2016-04-11 10235, 2016
20:48 PM
Leftmost
LordSputnik, might be some breakage there. :)
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20:48 PM
bitmap
zas: in that case, I wonder if it's a Qt bug :/
2016-04-11 10214, 2016
20:49 PM
zas
or a Picard bug ;)
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20:49 PM
zas
i'll create a ticket and i'll have a look later
2016-04-11 10221, 2016
20:50 PM
zas
I wonder what's the behavior of Picard in this case... since it has a 200 instead of a 503, hard to implement a retry for PICARD-708 ....
2016-04-11 10235, 2016
20:50 PM
zas
no point to retry on 200 ;)
2016-04-11 10244, 2016
20:52 PM
Leftmost
LordSputnik, there is a bug with publisher display, which I noted on the -data-js PR (since that's the origin).
2016-04-11 10257, 2016
20:54 PM
bitmap
strange, looks like picard reads the status directly from the QNetworkReply object
2016-04-11 10235, 2016
20:55 PM
zas
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20:55 PM
ruaok
maybe an nginx problem?
2016-04-11 10209, 2016
20:56 PM
ruaok
where the web app says 503 but nginx doesn't get that message and says 200.
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20:57 PM
reosarevok
zas: 807 ;)
2016-04-11 10258, 2016
20:57 PM
zas
reosarevok: oops ;) yes
2016-04-11 10201, 2016
20:58 PM
reosarevok was confused for a bit
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20:58 PM
zas
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20:58 PM
zas
ruaok: according to nginx logs it returned a 503
2016-04-11 10237, 2016
20:58 PM
zas
but Picard logs a 200 ...
2016-04-11 10238, 2016
20:58 PM
ruaok
ah, ok
2016-04-11 10246, 2016
20:58 PM
zas
magic Picard !
2016-04-11 10257, 2016
20:58 PM
ruaok
dark magic at that
2016-04-11 10244, 2016
21:00 PM
zas
in fact bitmap may be right, since reply.errorString() says "Service Unavailable" and reply.attribute(QtNetwork.QNetworkRequest.HttpStatusCodeAttribute) says 200 , perhaps some Qt bug
2016-04-11 10220, 2016
21:19 PM
reosarevok
Huh
2016-04-11 10225, 2016
21:19 PM
reosarevok
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21:19 PM
ruaok
NGS?
2016-04-11 10205, 2016
21:20 PM
ruaok
still, we never dumped a large chunk of our database. ever.
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21:25 PM
Leftmost
Sure you do. Frequently! *willfully interprets the verb in a manner not intended*
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21:34 PM
Freso
reosarevok: Ask them?
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21:36 PM
CallerNo6
That would be a little hilarious, if you were able to clear up a misunderstanding about NGS five years later.
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21:40 PM
ruaok
not outside the realm of possibilities. :)
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Freso
He was referring to PUIDs.
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reosarevok
Yeah, I saw now :p
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Freso
I am disappoint that you didn't do @acoustid
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reosarevok
Whoops.
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