chirlu: Thanks! I'll give it a go later tonight see if that helps
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UmkaDK
On a slightly unrelated note, I'm just following up on "Track deleted MBIDs" (MBS-8380) and noticed that it is marked as resolved by MBS-8287 which is suppose to be included in Schema change, 2016-05-16
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UmkaDK
So, does it mean that as of the next schema upgrade, it will be possible to get a list of previously used MBIDs for an entity, for example an artist?
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chrisskye
zas: Can you answer a question regarding server load?
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chrisskye
The question is from DuckDuckGo: "We're currently not using this API at all. We're still interested in trying it, though last time we checked in (a few years ago), there was concern around the load it would put on your servers. We may be interested in revisiting it if that's no longer a concern. "
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Freso
It is still a concern.
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KodeStar
wouldn't it depend if they had their own caching server?
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KodeStar
if they just updated their cached version every 24 hours it wouldn't put any strain on the MB service would it?
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kepstin
UmkaDK: if an artist has multiple mbids becaus eof merging, that's already tracked and they're all in the db
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kepstin
UmkaDK: the new feature is for deleted mbids, not merged
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Freso
KodeStar: There's almost 50 million MBIDs right now. While a cache might take the blunt of the blow, it will not alleviate it and we would not be able to lift the 1 req/sec rule for DDG.
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Freso
KodeStar (chrisskye): What we told them last time we were in talks I believe to still hold true: we would love(!!!) if they use our data, but the only way for that to happen at the moment is if they set up their own mirror.
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KodeStar
sorry, I said caching server when I meant mirror
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Freso
If they have their own mirror, they can hit it as hard as they'd like. :)
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Freso
...
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chrisskye
So...you already suggested that to them?
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KodeStar
they may have forgotten
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KodeStar
if it was a couple of years ago
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chrisskye
I’m still trying to write the email to Plex...after their “attack"
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chrisskye
I don’t think they’ve forgotten...it may be I’ve initiated a repeat conversation...
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chrisskye
How shall we revisit the conversation with them? email?
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zas
chrisskye: yes, it is still a concern, more than ever in fact
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zas
That's why we prepare moving towards another hosting solution
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zas
We lack of bandwidth, and our servers are too old, all this should be solved by the end of summer (i hope).
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zas
But they can host their own db if needed
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chrisskye
ok. zas, Freso...I will write back to them with some general response based on this chat. But...where shall I direct them, if they want to speak directly to you about this? Here? Forum? email?
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Freso
Either would probably be good, I guess.
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Freso
I think ruaok usually asks people to come on IRC?
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madmouser1
hmm Javascript help please, I am trying a userscript importer for FreeMusicArchives, however I need to make 2 API calls, how to I go only execute a function after BOTH ajax responses were received? or is teh only way a nested appraoch, one within the other iow. upon success of ajax call 1 do ajax call 2 and in ajax call 2 success parse the data
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madmouser1
I would have liked to keep teh 2 functions seperate, one for retrieving album info & one for track info
zas: where are you moving to? And how much bandwidth do you currently have?
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zas
We are currently studying options, but Hetzner (Germany) is one of them. We are limited to <30Mbps atm.
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KodeStar
can I make a suggestion zas?
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zas
Please do ;)
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KodeStar
Hetzner are ok, but you have limited bandwidth with them, you are better off with either online.net or ovh/sys, ovh have the better network but there isn't much in it
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KodeStar
support on all 3 isn't stellar, but they are unmanaged servwers so as long as you know what you are doing it's not such a big deal, support on ovh is better than sys but costs a bit more
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KodeStar
however
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KodeStar
ovh have some awesome options the others don't
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KodeStar
such as a 10gbps vrack on their hosting range of servers, you can also order a load balancing ip and configure it to use any of the dedicated or vps's you have with them
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KodeStar
their ddos protection is generally better than online.nets, online.nets get expensive fast but it's built into all ovh servers
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KodeStar
hetzner don't have any ddos protection so if you get hit they just null route your ip
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KodeStar
online.net servers have burst up to 1gps, ovh iirc guarantee 250mbps but can also burst up to 1gbps
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zas
Yes, it is worth to study. I'll meet ruaok soon at BCN, and this will be prolly something we'll work on.
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KodeStar
online.net charge per ip 2.99 seup fee + 1.99euro a month, sys gives you up to 16 ips with just a small setup fee (no ongoing) and ovh give you up to 256 ips with just the small setup fee
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KodeStar
Hetzner / online.net / OVH/SYS basically own the lower end of the market, I've researched all 3 a lot and have had servers with all 3
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zas
That said, i know OVH well enough to say they have attractive solutions at first sight, but often that's not that simple. And i had a very bad experience with them concerning a simple dsl line they were unable to fix during .... 5 weeks.
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KodeStar
like I said, support for all 3 isn't great, ovh have been better in recent imes
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KodeStar
*times
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KodeStar
I currently have 2 servers with SYS(OVH) and 1 with online.net
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KodeStar
and i've been a customer of both for about 3 years
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KodeStar
might be worth looking into cloudflare as well
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kepstin has some stuff in ovh's canadian dc, and has run into issues with their network links being congested :/
