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      • chirlu
        Did I? Oops.
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      • Freso
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      • Freso force-refreshes the edit page to make sure he isn't seeing a cached version
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      • ruaok
        fyi: I didn't make any destructive edits.
      • 2016-05-16 13719, 2016

      • ruaok
        I just wanted you to think that. :)
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      • chirlu
        No idea how that happened.
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      • Freso
        chirlu: I've had it happen with a browser-cached version getting loaded.
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      • alastairp
        Gentlecat: hey, so luks' sqlalchemy bindings for the mb database are great
      • 2016-05-16 13739, 2016

      • alastairp
        really easy to use (as long as you know the schema)
      • 2016-05-16 13758, 2016

      • alastairp
        I would 90% recommend them over writing custom sql
      • 2016-05-16 13720, 2016

      • alastairp
        the 10% is for where you want to get something which you could in 1 custom query, but might need to do 5 orm queries to get
      • 2016-05-16 13737, 2016

      • Freso
        ruaok chirlu, how about "It may not seem that we have a plan, but we're executing on the plan and we're incredibly busy trying to make things happen." → "It may not seem like we have a plan, but we do, and we're incredibly busy trying to make the plan happen."?
      • 2016-05-16 13744, 2016

      • cetko
        alastairp: did you see the tickets? good?
      • 2016-05-16 13745, 2016

      • cetko
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      • alastairp
        cetko: yes, I did
      • 2016-05-16 13701, 2016

      • chirlu
        Freso: +1
      • 2016-05-16 13703, 2016

      • alastairp
        I was going to add a few commends
      • 2016-05-16 13713, 2016

      • cetko
        I'll create some more
      • 2016-05-16 13717, 2016

      • cetko
        Ok
      • 2016-05-16 13738, 2016

      • alastairp
        cetko: if you think you have an idea about how you're going to start, add that in the description as well
      • 2016-05-16 13747, 2016

      • MBJenkins
        Project schema-migration-standalone-upgrade-sh build #14: STILL FAILING in 31 min: https://ci.metabrainz.org/job/schema-migration-st…
      • 2016-05-16 13751, 2016

      • MBJenkins
        Project search_server build #56: STILL FAILING in 3.4 sec: https://ci.metabrainz.org/job/search_server/56/
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      • MBJenkins
        rob: Putting debugs back in for another round of tests
      • 2016-05-16 13706, 2016

      • alastairp
        e.g., the schema ticket, I'd like to see at the very least a link to the documentation on how to write the schema
      • 2016-05-16 13708, 2016

      • ruaok
        Freso: +1
      • 2016-05-16 13717, 2016

      • ruaok
        go ahead and publish when you're happy.
      • 2016-05-16 13720, 2016

      • cetko
        Ok
      • 2016-05-16 13729, 2016

      • ruaok is working on the board meeting notes and spanking search servers
      • 2016-05-16 13730, 2016

      • cetko
        btw. who's Orion Reblitz-Richardson
      • 2016-05-16 13740, 2016

      • alastairp
        I don't know
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      • cetko
        and why did he steal my ticket :D
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      • Freso
        ruaok: Roget.
      • 2016-05-16 13727, 2016

      • Freso
        s/t/r/
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      • alastairp
        I don't see anything in the activity stream for AB
      • 2016-05-16 13733, 2016

      • alastairp
        not sure what happened
      • 2016-05-16 13724, 2016

      • CallerNo6
        Freso, fwiw I like "seems that" over "seems like"
      • 2016-05-16 13753, 2016

      • Freso
        CallerNo6: That also something I haven't un-reverted.
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      • Freso
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: ^ tweet?
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      • Freso
        KodeStar: You should go read the post too. :)
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      • Freso goes AFK for a bit
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      • alastairp
        I don't understand what the onion is
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      • darwin
        it's a joke on the word "union"
      • 2016-05-16 13723, 2016

      • alastairp
        I was trying to work out if musicbrainz was like an ogre
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      • alastairp
        or something
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      • MBJenkins
        Project schema-migration-standalone-upgrade-sh build #15: STILL FAILING in 3.3 sec: https://ci.metabrainz.org/job/schema-migration-st…
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      • luks
        alastairp: planning to use it for some project, or just experimenting?
      • 2016-05-16 13722, 2016

      • alastairp
        luks: we've been talking about replacing webservice lookups in acousticbrainz and listenbrainz
      • 2016-05-16 13738, 2016

      • alastairp
        because even with our own server, the overhead of the lookup is a lot
      • 2016-05-16 13752, 2016

      • alastairp
        so I'm playing around with getting the data that we need directly from the db
      • 2016-05-16 13715, 2016

      • alastairp
        and since we already have python and sqlalchemy...
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      • luks
        makes sense
      • 2016-05-16 13706, 2016

      • alastairp
        cetko: don't assign things to you until you are actually working on it
      • 2016-05-16 13722, 2016

      • alastairp
        you should only have 1 or 2 things assigned to you at a time
      • 2016-05-16 13709, 2016

      • luks
        regarding the planned db schema change, are there any details?
      • 2016-05-16 13720, 2016

      • ruaok
        luks: see blog.
      • 2016-05-16 13724, 2016

      • cetko
        alastairp: ok :)
      • 2016-05-16 13725, 2016

      • luks
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      • ruaok
        delayed by a week
      • 2016-05-16 13737, 2016

      • luks
        I mean the contents, not the date :)
      • 2016-05-16 13750, 2016

      • luks
        I'd like to know what changes to expect
      • 2016-05-16 13714, 2016

      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
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      • luks
        is github no longer the main repo?
      • 2016-05-16 13707, 2016

      • chirlu
        luks: It’s in the schema-change-2016-q2 branch, not master.
      • 2016-05-16 13709, 2016

      • luks
        I see no recent schema changes here https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
      • 2016-05-16 13712, 2016

      • luks
        oh
      • 2016-05-16 13720, 2016

      • luks
        thank you
      • 2016-05-16 13705, 2016

      • alastairp
        "name": "stop using this for artist credits you are to lazy to look-up/make. ffs!"
      • 2016-05-16 13709, 2016

      • alastairp
        awesome tags
      • 2016-05-16 13719, 2016

      • alastairp
        luks: is there a reason why your types.PartialDate is not orderable?
      • 2016-05-16 13714, 2016

      • luks
        alastairp: not really, just never needed it
      • 2016-05-16 13713, 2016

      • alastairp
        I'm looking at getting the earliest release date of a release group
      • 2016-05-16 13743, 2016

      • alastairp
        doesn't look like there's a direct method or property on the ReleaseGroup class
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      • luks
        well, there is ReleaseGroupMeta.first_release_date :)
      • 2016-05-16 13758, 2016

      • MBJenkins
        Project schema-migration-standalone-upgrade-sh build #16: STILL FAILING in 5.1 sec: https://ci.metabrainz.org/job/schema-migration-st…
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      • alastairp
        oh, I didn't see the meta one
      • 2016-05-16 13733, 2016

      • luks
        according to the docs, it should be possible to support ordering on the composite types, maybe I'll experiment with it later
      • 2016-05-16 13720, 2016

      • alastairp
        cool
      • 2016-05-16 13721, 2016

      • ruaok
        zas: deployed to both dora and roobarb now?
      • 2016-05-16 13728, 2016

      • luks
        but yeah, if you just need the date, rg.meta.first_release_date is the best solution (with rg.meta being joinedload-ed)
      • 2016-05-16 13737, 2016

      • zas
        yep
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      • zas
        they are freaking out atm, but situation should come back to normal soon(tm)
      • 2016-05-16 13756, 2016

      • ruaok
        ok, calm now. will keep an eye on things
      • 2016-05-16 13743, 2016

      • alastairp
        luks: is there a reason you didn't put data into the repr/str of the objects?
      • 2016-05-16 13756, 2016

      • alastairp
        it would be nice to print a release and get its name and/or mbid :)
      • 2016-05-16 13704, 2016

      • luks
        no, as before, I had no need for it and I was the only user :)
      • 2016-05-16 13723, 2016

      • alastairp
        :)
      • 2016-05-16 13739, 2016

      • alastairp
        anyway, if we go ahead with using it perhaps I'll submit some patches
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      • luks
        bitmap: https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/… this is creating FK constraints and triggers on a slave database, is that intentional?
      • 2016-05-16 13722, 2016

      • bitmap
        no, those should go in a separate file I think
      • 2016-05-16 13745, 2016

      • bitmap
        although those tables aren't replicated
      • 2016-05-16 13732, 2016

      • luks
        I know, that's why I was not sure whether to call it a bug
      • 2016-05-16 13703, 2016

      • luks
        it should be fine, but it would generate something different than a clean db setup
      • 2016-05-16 13757, 2016

      • luks
        hm, jsonb is required now
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      • bitmap
        yeah, we should it make it consistent. I'll move them
      • 2016-05-16 13703, 2016

      • rahulr
        Can one point me to the musicbrainz.org/doc/Development page source.
      • 2016-05-16 13718, 2016

      • alastairp
        rahulr: scroll down to the bottom
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      • alastairp
        there's a link to the same page on the wiki
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      • chirlu
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      • Gentlecat
        alastairp: cool, will take a closer look at it someday
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      • armalcolite
        LB readme does not mention running a redis server. any specific reasons, why?
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      • alastairp
        do you mean that you think it should
      • 2016-05-16 13751, 2016

      • alastairp
        or that it needs one and it's not in the readme?
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      • ruaok
        armalcolite: the redis is needed for the rate-limiting branch.
      • 2016-05-16 13726, 2016

      • armalcolite
        after adding the rate-limiter support, we need to run a redis server
      • 2016-05-16 13728, 2016

      • ruaok
        I haven't had a chance to update the docs for any of that.
      • 2016-05-16 13748, 2016

      • alastairp
        ah!
      • 2016-05-16 13700, 2016

      • rahulr
        Found. Thanks.
      • 2016-05-16 13702, 2016

      • armalcolite
        ruaok: it was merged in master. right?
      • 2016-05-16 13707, 2016

      • ruaok
        yes
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      • alastairp
        ruaok: 7pm, or 7pm spanish time?
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      • ruaok
        so, it is time to document that.
      • 2016-05-16 13723, 2016

      • ruaok
        I was shooting for 7 actual.
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      • alastairp
        ok. ping me when you walk about the door
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      • alastairp
        out
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      • ruaok
        but I see a lot of activity from bitmap and I'm not sure I should drag him away right away. :)
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      • rahulr
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      • ruaok
        k, can do.
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      • chirlu
        rahulr: Yes. Too used to Wikipedia with its /wiki infix. :)
      • 2016-05-16 13722, 2016

      • rahulr
        Heh, just noticed wikipedia does that.
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      • DjSlash
        search servers have issues still or again?
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      • DjSlash
        ups and downs I guess
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      • ruaok
        we've been working on them, trying to get them to behave.
      • 2016-05-16 13751, 2016

      • ruaok
        things were really good last night, but then today things have been not so good.
      • 2016-05-16 13755, 2016

      • ruaok
        did you just get errors?
      • 2016-05-16 13753, 2016

      • ruaok
        yeah, clearly.
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      • ruaok
        sigh.
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      • Freso
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      • alastairp
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      • alastairp
        so graphical!
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      • alastairp
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      • ruaok
        nice, I'll have look later. this sounds promising
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      • ruaok
        zas: 2016-05-16 16:04:27.405929500.s:@400000005739ede4035b5a24 2016-05-16 15:57:14.055:INFO:oejs.ServerConnector:Thread-0: Stopped ServerConnector@7b1e5e55{HTTP/1.1,[http/1.1]}{0.0.0.0:8081}
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      • zas
        k