not sure about the second point. adding configuration that no one has asked for
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bitmap
if people want that, it's a good point though. on the other hand, cover art can be loaded asychronously
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bitmap
fetching external resources for the page probably does make it slow, but that's why we'd have the server only return the results table
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bitmap
might be that it's still slow even then. I guess we'd have to check
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bitmap
the caching is a good point
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ruaok
Yay, search servers were running a load and recovered normally. :-)
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Freso
ruaok: 🙌
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rahulr
bitmap: Yep. That preferred attributes is a mere idea. It should be relatively easy to implement in custom UI than in the web results.
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KodeStar
chirlu / Freso I get redirected as well
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rahulr
Someone with a metered connection (like me, presently) might not want to load covers during search at all. It might help to provide an option for that in configuration.
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Freso
KodeStar: Yeah, I think we've established that it's my NoScript keeping me on HTTPS. :)
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Freso
I thought I had, anyway.
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bitmap
rahulr: agreed, should be pretty simple
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zas
ruaok: that's the big test, sunday evening, > 500 req/s served, ... search servers uses a lot of cpu atm
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ruaok
Yeah, I saw. I think this reflects our true capacity much more.
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zas
yup
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ruaok
Search is still responsive though.
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zas
yes
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zas
i need to add more checks for responsivity of various services (that's somewhere in my never-ending TODO list)
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zas
it will come after the big move anyway
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zas
web servers are quite loaded too ;)
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bitmap
baron is running with hot_standby = 'on', but isn't accepting any ro queries yet
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bitmap
I guess that will happen when recovery is done, but it's taking quite a while
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bitmap
happen automatically, according to the docs
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zas
ruaok: check bandwidth graph, 28Mbps atm
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KodeStar
ruaok / za, did you get any responses from the providers you contacted?
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KodeStar
*zas
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ruaok
So low. Odd.
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ruaok
Yes, hetzner is updated in the spreadsheet. And it is cheap. 500€ cheaper than OVH.
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ruaok
And we don't have to pay vat. \ö/
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ruaok
Hetzner has startup costs but I amortized them over two years. Still very cheap.
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ruaok
Ddos protection is one thing we need to consider with hetzner..
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rahulr
bitmap: So, I'm starting with a basic track search dialog UI. Code on a normal git feature branch, right? In my fork.
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KodeStar
are you vat registered? not sure why else you wouldn't have to pay VAT?
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ruaok
We're a us company. As it stands hetzner does no charge us vat.
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ruaok
Not
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KodeStar
I'm just looking at the spreadsheet and yeah 500eruo a month is not to be sniffed at, but like you said the ddos thing is the only concerning thing, all someone would have to do is ddos your gateway servers and it would all be down due to them null routing the ips
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bitmap
rahulr: correct
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ruaok
KodeStar: understood. However, in 16 years, that has never happened. So I am not sure how to evaluate all this.
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KodeStar
true, and you could always stick cloudflare in front of you if it did happen
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KodeStar
ruaok: I filled in the values for online.net, I don't know if those servers would actually be suitable, but if they were it would defintely be worth seeing if they would do it sans VAT as well (probably would as you are a US company) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L5W8pjvuu… and that would give you ddos protection, and 1GBPS RPN (similar to vrack)
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ruaok
Thank you!
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KodeStar
also while the hetzner network is supposed to be considered pretty good, as I understand it it goes Hetzner < online.net < OVH, but that could be just anecdotal, it would also depend where your biggest customer base is, it might be worth getting someone from a few different places pinging servers from each to see what kind of latentcy they get
