someone suggested it while I had tape in my hand. so I put one up and left the tape dispenser. the rest was a communal effort.
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ruaok
(there is still a terrifying amount of chocolate in my suitcase. it might be more than I came with.)
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Freso
ruaok: Is that at the SF office?
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ruaok
Tech Corner 4 in Sunnyvale.
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Freso
Alright.
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gcilou
Freso: I thought it was the SF office too :) I guess it has the same feel..
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Freso
:)
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alastairp
ruaok: I don't think you told me when you were meeting with Felipe
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alastairp
has that already happened?
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ruaok
nope. noon today
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alastairp
ah. cool
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alastairp
I'm interested in hearing how it goes
2016-10-31 30504, 2016
alastairp
I'm just writing some stuff now to bulk load all of AB
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alastairp
we're going to have to do some significant changes to the json format to accommodate it though :(
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ruaok
why so?
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ruaok
effectively a schema-translation to make things fit?
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alastairp
2 main things
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alastairp
- can't have list-of-lists in BQ, we'll have to do [{key: x, values: [1,2,3]}, ...]
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alastairp
which doesn't make sense for some of the matrix data that we have in lowlevel, but not really much we can do about it
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ruaok
got it. thankfully that makes little sense to query. batch process, yeah, query less so
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ruaok
and yeah, the same problems exists in LB
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alastairp
- in hl, the probabilities dict for each model uses the class name as the dict key: {values : {x: 0.5, y:0.2, z:0.3}}
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alastairp
but that means the schema would have to know what all the classes for all the models are. not good, especially if we add more stuff
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alastairp
I changed it to {values: [{class: x, prob: 0.5}, {class: y, ...}, ...]}
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ruaok
puffs up the data, but hey, we're not paying for that. ;-)
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alastairp
but if it's a schema, who knows how they're optimising it in the backend
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alastairp
perhaps it won't affect storage at all
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ruaok
I have a feeling that BQ is what it is because the operations it provides are scalable and super fast.
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ruaok
so, like all googlers, we need to adapt our data models...
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alastairp
right
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alastairp downloads all of jamendo
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ruaok needs to get ready. pono, google today. wikimedia, github and mozilla sf tomorrow.
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alastairp
cool! can't wait to hear about it al
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alastairp
have a fun week
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alastairp
or at least, next few days
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ruaok
thanks. I'll report back... hmmm. via freso.
2016-10-31 30545, 2016
ruaok
I wont make the meeting today. maybe the tail end.
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ruaok
and next week's meeting is going to be dicey, so say the least.
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Freso
ruaok: We can cancel next week's meeting perhaps? I won't have any GCI news until after the 9th, and from the 9th on out, I'll be deep-ish in GCI stuff.
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Freso
(Which means I'll be around a lot. :))
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TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | Countdown to old servers being taken offline: https://goo.gl/eJxLRC | MeB meeting agenda: reviews, cancel W45 meeting? (Freso)
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ruaok
seems like a plan to me.
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ruaok
I think one way or another I am going to spend most of the day at DWNI.
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Freso
Right. Let's see if anyone has objections later, and if not, that's what we'll do.
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jesus2099
bitmap Freso zas reosarevok (or other discourse admins, I’m not sure your are): Could we have those following similar generic “please vote for my edits” topics together in one ? I’m listing them, oldest first:
It would be nice… And maybe we would give it the best topic name out of these four…
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Freso
jesus2099: I don't know. I actually think it's fine to have them on their own.
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jesus2099
ok, maybe. :) I like tidy things…
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jesus2099
I don’t like very much that I get too many results when I look for topics…
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jesus2099
But you’re probably right, otherwise. :)
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CatCat
am i on time for the meeting today?
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CatQuest
Freso: ping me when it's due
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CatQuest
(on catcat)
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ruaok
yay. we've been gifted a pono player. gives us in BCN a chance to kick the tires.
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ruaok
we should see them soon as supporters too. :)
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alastairp
sweet
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alastairp
A/B blind test, anyone? :)
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ruaok
let's do it.
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ruaok is loafing wifi off GoogleGuest
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ruaok
best guest wifi in the world.
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alastairp
is the internet really fast?
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CatQuest
for a momment I read "GoogleQuest" and was amused/confused
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ruaok
best internet outside our office. :)
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ruaok
alastairp: around? felipe and I are here in the cafe.
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alastairp
ruaok: hi
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ruaok
ok, so.
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ruaok
general idea: we should massage the data as much as possible before going to BQ.
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alastairp
OK, that's in line with what we were talking about before. good
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ruaok
meaning that if we need a rowid, we should have PG assign that and then use that as an internal id to keep the data in sync.
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ruaok
wich is what I did with LB, so we're on the right track.
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ruaok
do you have an example of lists of lists problem.
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alastairp
OK. also what I asked in my email. So as long as we're OK with making that postgres rowid a "public identifier", it seems like that's the easiest way for us to do it in AB too
