16:59 PM
ruaok
earlier in the day EU would be best, is my guess.
17:00 PM
that makes bitmap the main limiting factor.
17:00 PM
when do you suppose you could be up tomorrow morning bitmap?
17:01 PM
bitmap
I could probably be up at 5AM CST if I go to sleep early
17:02 PM
ruaok
wow, really?
17:02 PM
Gentlecat
we also need all the replication packets in that volume
17:02 PM
ruaok
I don't want to over stress you. also since you need to get NewHost through the first EU night.
17:02 PM
bitmap
I was waking up regularly at 6AM before, so sure :P
17:03 PM
ruaok
Gentlecat: is an extra step needed in the migration doc?
17:03 PM
ok, let's keep to 6am then.
17:03 PM
bitmap
I'll try for 6AM anyway
17:03 PM
ruaok
perfect.
17:03 PM
Gentlecat
ruaok: I suppose
17:04 PM
ruaok
Gentlecat, zas: go time for starting the migration is 6am Chicago. That should be 13h CEST, if my brain can do math.
17:04 PM
Gentlecat
unless it can be started now
17:04 PM
ruaok
Gentlecat: I don't see why not. we've got time.
17:04 PM
zas
k
17:04 PM
ruaok
start it please. the step for syncing the last packets is the in doc.
17:05 PM
Gentlecat
17:05 PM
ruaok
Freso: will you be around tomorrow 13h BCN time?
17:05 PM
zas
"bitmap the main limiting factor" ... not kind ;)
17:05 PM
ruaok
as far as time. sorry bitmap. :)
17:05 PM
bitmap
haha
17:05 PM
ruaok
ok, I think that covers my concerns.
17:06 PM
keep working to tidy things up, but make sure to get to bed at a good hour to get good rest.
17:06 PM
I wont be up that early, so start without me.
17:06 PM
I'll try and rope Freso into doing all the tweeting/blogging/announcing things that you guys are doing.
17:06 PM
any questions so far?
17:08 PM
and in general: don't worry about downtime. worry about getting the job done in a sane and secure way.
17:08 PM
zas: as far as new rate limits, I would set them at 300 as we are now.
17:08 PM
and just observe. if you happen to get bored because not enough stuff is breaking, think about increasing it.
17:08 PM
but methinks 300/sec should be cake on the new setup.
17:09 PM
zas
ruaok: well, yes... but we have few issues to solve ;) like the one bitmap and i are on ....
17:10 PM
ruaok
understood.
17:10 PM
zas
basically consul health checks overreacting on load, removing upstream servers (thinking they are stopped), where they are just under load
17:11 PM
Freso
ruaok: That's the plan, yes.
17:11 PM
zas
with a nice cascade effect, ending in no service instead of slow service
17:11 PM
ruaok
Freso: can you please write a blog post and post immediately that sums up what we just said?
17:11 PM
bitmap
trying a tcp check instead of http
17:12 PM
ruaok
also include the link to
17:12 PM
it is now world readable.
17:13 PM
Freso: follow along in the switchover. when something is done, strike it out. then people can follow along.
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17:25 PM
ok, zas, bitmap and Gentlecat: Can I go to DWNI and tell them today that tomorrow will be our last day?
17:25 PM
I don't know how final that will be but, I just want to make sure I am not jumping the gun and that we are all in agreement.
17:25 PM
I'd like to hear some response from each of you.
17:26 PM
Gentlecat
my stuff is ready according to this sheet of paper next to me
17:26 PM
ruaok
that is a yes, proceed from you then?
17:26 PM
Gentlecat
most of the things are already in prod on new host
17:26 PM
apart from CAA redirect and MeB
17:26 PM
zas
well, i would prefer tomorrow not being my last day..... i would say yes... we have to do it
17:26 PM
Gentlecat
those are being tested and seem to be working fine
17:26 PM
bitmap
a bit nervous but it's doable
17:27 PM
ruaok
heh. love those responses.
17:27 PM
yeah, I am nervous too.
17:27 PM
zas
^^ same, i expect bad surprises but they aren't really surprises since i expect them ....
17:27 PM
ruaok
but even with whatever bumps may come, lets hope that this isn't going to be worse than what we have now.
17:27 PM
zas: good attitude. :)
17:28 PM
ok, motion carried. I'll head over to DWNI in a bit and start cleanup.
17:28 PM
bitmap
D:
17:29 PM
zas
be sure to save as much stuff you can, storing disks somewhere in case of ... we need some forgotten stuff in 6 months
17:29 PM
which is very likely to happen according to Murphy's law
17:30 PM
Gentlecat goes home
17:33 PM
ruaok
zas: yes, but what?
17:33 PM
if it isn't in the gist, It isn't on my radar.
17:34 PM
zas
i think it is, wiley mostly, we have nothing on mbs servers, nor on gateways
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17:36 PM
bitmap
I think I have a copy of it somewhere, but saving the old chatlogger (code + logs) from scooby would be good
17:38 PM
pretty sure it was in wiley backups already
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ruaok
'twas on scooby.
17:45 PM
recovering anything from scooby is going to be an adventure.
17:45 PM
it has SCSI drives.
17:46 PM
old chatlogger added to list.
17:56 PM
zas: we still have a free IP on our blocks at DWNI, right?
17:56 PM
I want to put rika there for people to be able to log in for 24 hours to fetch stuff.
18:04 PM
gcilou
18:08 PM
Freso
gcilou: "403 Forbidden" -_-
18:08 PM
gcilou
hm
18:08 PM
Freso
But, hey: "GCI 2016: MetaBrainz Foundation has been accepted as a mentoring organization!"
18:08 PM
gcilou
18:08 PM
yeah!
18:08 PM
Freso
So I guess it's on. :)
18:09 PM
gcilou
17 this year
18:10 PM
bitmap
18:11 PM
any easy way we can block outside connections to those ws.* domains too?
18:13 PM
it's weird that there isn't an official sshd docker image
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18:30 PM
zas
bitmap: the easy way is what i did with ws.mb.o ... just keep http & https fields empty
18:30 PM
see current config
18:30 PM
bitmap
ah ok
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18:31 PM
Gentlecat
Freso: nice
18:31 PM
zas
Requests per second: 43.49 [#/sec] (mean)
18:31 PM
bitmap: ^^ with 40 c
18:32 PM
much better
18:32 PM
bitmap
nice
18:32 PM
zas
don't forget to change to tcp checks on ws too
18:33 PM
bitmap
already done
18:33 PM
zas
this is something we'll need to sort out, but i think the main issue is the code, http checks need 429 when too many queries
18:34 PM
that said, we *should* use 429...
18:35 PM
eh, results are much better
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18:35 PM
100 concurrent connections, same rate, no failed query
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18:36 PM
and cpu% on bowie < 10% with same test
18:36 PM
bitmap: \o/
18:37 PM
bitmap
woot
18:37 PM
amazing how much those area_containment queries suck
18:37 PM
zas
18:38 PM
slower to answer, but no failure
18:38 PM
expected
18:38 PM
and load on servers is much more normal
18:42 PM
bitmap: our fancy new hardware will reveal tons of software bottlenecks... not sure it is good news for devs ;)
18:43 PM
bitmap
job security, I guess :P
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18:45 PM
zas
sort of ;)
18:46 PM
ok i'm off for diner, i will run similar tests on ws after
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18:49 PM
chirlu: you have those queries from logs, can you send them to me so i can build extensive stress tests ?
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18:52 PM
bitmap: you added zappa as website server too ?
18:52 PM
18:52 PM
bitmap
just the beta site
18:52 PM
zas
ah ok, it uses the same container name
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18:53 PM
bitmap
yeah
18:53 PM
zas
perhaps better to have it named after beta, and keep all configs separated
18:53 PM
bitmap
should be under beta.musicbrainz-website?
18:53 PM
I don't see zappa's IP in that paste
18:54 PM
zas
it isn't
18:54 PM
hence my question
18:55 PM
bitmap
ah
18:55 PM
18:55 PM
^ that should add a new upstream automatically right?
18:55 PM
zas
yup
18:56 PM
18:56 PM
bitmap
cool
18:56 PM
chrome doesn't even let me add cert exceptions anymore
18:56 PM
I wonder if they changed that
19:16 PM
CatQuest
ok hello ,not to butt in where I am adding to loads and stuff but: will tomorrow be a bad time to add instrments? ie, will mb be down in the morning cet?
19:17 PM
i read something about 13 cest
19:17 PM
(ie is this happening *tomorrow*) 8th november
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CallerNo6: Funky Town!
19:24 PM
ruaok has done the paperwork