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      • CatQuest
        uh
      • 2016-11-30 33547, 2016

      • CallerNo6
        I mean, at least potentially, the artist's rapport with the crowd is a valid thing to talk about.
      • 2016-11-30 33519, 2016

      • CallerNo6
        (or am I misunderstanding you?)
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      • CatQuest
        i thought about album reviews personalyl but like a concert is.. i guess a very biased wtihng. it is very much abotu the experience
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      • yvanz
        gcilou: Any progress with VM setup for coding? Should we create a GCI task specifically for this?
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      • gcilou
        yvanz: I haven't made any progress with it. ruaok has been working on it I think. I'm not sure if it would be appropriate or doable for a GCI task
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      • ruaok
        ya, sorry. I didn't get around to working on it more today.
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      • ruaok
        not suitable for a GCI task. Not even suitable fore a GSoC task.
      • 2016-11-30 33537, 2016

      • yvanz
        Dumb idea: Is that possible to export patches from a git repo to a running VM for test purpose? (aesthetes please do not read... too late)
      • 2016-11-30 33501, 2016

      • Freso
        yvanz: Why wouldn't it be?
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      • Freso
        GitHub makes generating patch files really easy.
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      • yvanz
        Freso: I don't run any VM atm, I cannot write how to do this.
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      • yvanz
        No github involved, only local machine. I am looking for a suggestion for development environment setup in Windows.
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      • yvanz
        gcilou, ruaok: Did I lost you? Can one still test code in a VM, although it does not run an suitable local git repo?
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      • ruaok
        the VM is based on docker. and docker is very much for production environments.
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      • ruaok
        so, making a docker based system work for development will require some though.
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      • ruaok
        thought
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      • dpmittal
        CallerNo6 , Gentlecat : i removed those two points from the mistakes section. Is there anything else which needs to be rectified?
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      • yvanz
        Thanks, we better have to add Linux to GCI *coding* task requirements.
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      • Freso is now known as Rightmost
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      • Rightmost is now known as Freso
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      • zas
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      • ruaok
        ops == operations per second?
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      • ruaok
        I'm guessing the double spikes are time-separated index rotations.
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      • ruaok
        but why do the number of ops spike during that time? I would expect time to spike, not ops
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      • zas
        nope, reload
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      • zas
        number of requests ending in 408 per minute per upstream
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      • zas
        i can sum up both upstreams if you prefer
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      • ruaok
        ah, got it.
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      • ruaok
        ok, what is going on then?
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      • ruaok
        there seems to be a period of rising 408s before the index rotation.
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      • ruaok
        what causes that? IO contention during index copy?
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      • ruaok
        vodoo?
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      • CatQuest
        probably voodoo
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      • zas
        ruaok: reload, i added rx bytes/s on each search server to the dashboard
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      • Freso
        Oh, crud. I forgot that Jira isn't sending out e-mails.
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      • Freso wonders how many Jira accounts he's made that never got their password e-mails :|
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      • zas
        ruaok: i added cpu % (moving avg)
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      • ruaok
        thx!
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      • ruaok
        at 18:05, cpu on prince and boingo is really out of whack.
      • 2016-11-30 33513, 2016

      • ruaok
        the CPU tends to fluctuate quite a lot between successive top screens.
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      • ruaok
        much more so than at oldhost.
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      • ruaok
        I'll look again tomorrow with more data. right now that is just wtf.
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      • Freso
        ruaok: What is the latest I should expect a package to arrive at?
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      • Freso is starting to feel rather chill...
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      • ruaok
        next thursday?
      • 2016-11-30 33548, 2016

      • ruaok
        I usually gave up by 7pm.
      • 2016-11-30 33558, 2016

      • ruaok
        which mean that they would show up at 9am the next day.
      • 2016-11-30 33506, 2016

      • ruaok
        hence me shipping things to drop of locations now.
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      • Freso
        Mhm.
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      • Freso
        MRW has a place nicely close to the office.
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      • Freso picked up something there on his way here today
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      • Freso
        ...
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      • Freso
        I think I just locked myself out of my Jira account.
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      • ruaok
        👏
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      • Freso
        yep.
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      • Freso
        🙌
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      • Freso
        Anyone have any idea if the Jira not-sending-email issue is going to be solved soon? If not, can someone with admin access (that isn't me…) set my password to something and let me know?
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      • ruaok has no idea
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      • ruaok
        still too many other things screaming. stupid business shit mostly.
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      • ruaok partly hopes that a jira volunteer will step up
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      • ruaok
        check your pm's freso
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      • anshuman73
        How does one install Picard once one has added the PPA for ubuntu ?
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      • anshuman73 realizes it was as simple as `sudo apt-get install picard`
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      • anshuman73
        I guess that could be added to the launchpad link, just in case...
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      • Freso
        anshuman73: If you're developing on it, you might want to just run it from the git checkout. :)
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      • anshuman73
        Ahh, not yet developing on it, but yes, that surely is a better idea considering I may need it
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      • anshuman73
        Freso, is there a way to add the official websites of artists in their relationships ?
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      • Freso
        anshuman73: Yes. :) Just add the official website to the list of URLs and mark it as "official homepage".
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      • anshuman73
        ooh ! Alright !
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      • anshuman73
        My First edit on Musicbrainz ! \o/
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      • Freso
        🙌
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      • CallerNo6
        oh, hey, anshuman73 , I asked about release types. It sounds like you can ignore 'type' and look only at 'primary' and 'secondary'. The WS 'type' is derived from primary/secondary.
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      • anshuman73
        Hey CallerNo6, Thanks a lot. This sure solves confusions !
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      • anshuman73
        though, what does WS stand for ?
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      • CallerNo6
        web service
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      • anshuman73
        oh
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      • anshuman73
        sampsyo: ping !
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      • CallerNo6
        I say that to distinguish it from the 'type' column in the 'release_group' table, which is not the same thing.
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      • anshuman73
        is it something different ?
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      • anshuman73
        can you send a link to the table you're referring
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      • anshuman73
        ahh, got it. the 'type' field in this https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Release_Group . My bad
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      • anshuman73
        Also, is it not possible to add a track unless all the Artists (including the feat. artists) exist on Musicbrainz ?
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      • anshuman73
        Can someone help me understand the problem in this case - http://pasteboard.co/4hFgmqCDb.png
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      • anshuman73
        The Artist Mellisa Hayes doesn't exist on Musicbrainz it seems
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      • Freso
        Then you should add her.
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      • CallerNo6
        That's correct. The 'artist' field(s) aren't just text. they need to be matched to an artist in the db. when you've selected a match, the field will turn green.
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      • anshuman73
        Alright !
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      • CallerNo6
        anshuman73, about the type, the other night I was looking at https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
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      • CallerNo6
        It turns out, that is not the same as the 'type' returned by the web service.
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      • CallerNo6
        (so, that was part of /my/ confusion)
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      • anshuman73
        Yeah, according to that code, type should always end up being associated with the primary type, but doesn't end up being that way
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      • CallerNo6
        The important thing for your purpose is to know that the 'type' returned by the WS is a legacy field calculated f rom the newer primary/secondary values.
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      • anshuman73
        yes !
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      • CallerNo6
        (so you can ignore it)
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      • reosarevok
        Freso: do you still need that jira stuff?
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: No, ruaok sorted me out. Thanks though.
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      • reosarevok
        Ok :)
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      • anshuman73
        CallerNo6: I think that's sampsyo's call ;) As of now we've put the new types obtained from the primarytype field and the secondarytype fields into the logs for later use. Bu this clarification should definitely help us get moving.
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      • sampsyo
        Yes, this helps! Thanks to both of you, anshuman73 and CallerNo6.
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      • anshuman73
        CallerNo6: P.s. I came across the issue while working on beets, if you're wondering where sampsyo get's involved
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      • sampsyo
        I think we'll end up probably keeping all three "type" values—one for backwards compatibility, and then both the primary and secondary as well.
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      • anshuman73
        sampsyo: great ! Does that mean I revert again in the PR ?
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      • sampsyo
        Nope, let's keep it as is.
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      • ruaok
        chirlu: see the footer of this page.
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      • sampsyo
        The logging approach is still the right first milestone—we'll save the values in the next phase, once some more infrastructure is in place.
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      • anshuman73
        sampsyo: sure ! Can I continue working on this and take up the next task related to it as well ?
      • 2016-11-30 33530, 2016

      • sampsyo
        Yeah; that would be awesome!!
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      • sampsyo
        Do you see the task I'm referring to, or can I help by looking it up for you?
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      • anshuman73
        I'll look it up :0
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      • anshuman73
        :) *
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      • ruaok
        zas: do you know of http://rancher.com/ ?
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      • zas
        i heard about it, but didn't dig yet
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      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: don't know if you've missed my messages about jira, I wanted to look at upgrades
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      • ruaok
        ah, I did miss those.
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      • Gentlecat
        unless you meant some other volunteering
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      • ruaok
        by all means, please do.
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      • ruaok
        I know the upgrade steps requires many successive steps.
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      • Gentlecat
        I found some docs that might be new
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      • ruaok
        painful at best.
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      • ruaok
        one thing to consider is to import into jira online, then export. then import into our copy.
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      • ruaok
        and also setting up email on that server would make people happy.
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      • ruaok
        want a login?
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      • Gentlecat
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      • Gentlecat
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      • Gentlecat
        "You use JIRA 4.0.0 – 4.2.x on Windows or Linux.", which it looks like we do