#metabrainz

[picard] Sophist-UK opened pull request #604: PICARD-936: Separate threadpool for file loads (master...PICARD-936_separate_threadpool_for_file_loads) https://git.io/vDvQ1

Is it possible to do a fuzzy search on track duration? i.e. something like: http://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/recording/?query=re...

ricky_d: I don't know what toolchain you're on, but «If you’re currently using the MusicBrainz web service, please try and switch your program to using beta.musicbrainz.org and see whether your program breaks or not and let us know the status of it.» ( https://blog.musicbrainz.org/2016/05/19/were-ac... )

(I guess the July 1 date for AcousticBrainz didn't quite stand up.)

Freso, Thanks, I'm using the python-musicbrainzngs library, not actually sure which http it uses but will take a look in a bit. (I see in that article that it had issues, but I imagine it's patched by now)

zas: do you know if there's any issue with Transifex? I'm getting "There was an error connecting to server. Reload", but it might be on my side

trying to access the Russian project (because of a support question) which I'm not a member of, but I guess if it was a rights issue it'd tell me so :p

works here

Hmm

Ok

Then I can tell the guy to go check transifex anyway :)

Thanks!

zas Freso: any idea how I can get the associated wikimedia commons image for artists in MB? I am trying to write a new info dialog for picard

Freso: Jake, jvefforts, will also help with the tutorials/intro vids.

samj1912: add url-rels to the includes, like on http://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/artist/b2d122f9-ead...

Mineo: thanks! :D

zas Mineo how should we deal with this? https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/PICARD-95...

PICARD-956: Picard start: Many 'Module conflict: unregistering previously loaded...' in Debuglog

is there a reason we do not allow tag submissions through picard?

samj1912: Do we specifically not allow it? Or was it just never written/added?

I have no idea

samj1912: Well, if you don't see any code/comments specifically blocking it, then it's probably the latter. :)

Freso: I when I first installed picard thought the submit button allowed me to submit my edited tags

Once thing to be wary about is that tags can go on so many levels though.

samj1912: Which was the reason for changing that button's text and icon. ;)

Oh. You mean tags such as "artist" etc.?

yeah

yup

Right. There's no web service/API for editing MB data.

ah http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Development/XML_Web...

I am just taking a look at the WS for the first time today

I thought these were the usual 'tags'

no wonder i thought the example was a bit vague :P

They are the usual "tags". In MB terms.

hmmm

I still cant find the tag endpoint in picard webservice

I think Picard can only read tags, not send/submit/edit them.

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/82466553093... :D

yeah, would it be useful to have that functionality?

Hmm. Given how dodgy acoustid submissions can be sometimes, I wonder how good the tags would end up being

we have trouble getting people to understand the release and relationship editors on the website in their entirety, I wouldn't try to make yet another interface for it :)

samj1912: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-211

MBS-211: Implement editing via the webservice

reosarevok: Folksonomy tags or file tags?

hmm, so I would have to write the WS api for editing first if I wanna do anything about it:P

Well, not for editing folksonomy tags.

yeah, that can be implemented

reosarevok: thank you that data helped my political mood.....

CallerNo6 Wildwatz (where's he gone??): Is https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-5307 actionable? I notice that CallerNo6 used to have it assigned to him, but...

MBS-5307: ws/2 documentation is incomplete and confusing

bitmap: ping

zas: pong

since 3 days we have an increase in 503s and a bump in 400s for search

ws gzipped response ratio changed, i have no explanation

i guess some backends is misbehaving

at the same time we have a significant increase in 200s from backends, showing much more traffic than usual

any idea where the traffic is coming from?

i didn't dig the logs yet

wouldn't it be normal for 503s to increase in that case?

samj1912: I think you asked earlier about issues blocking the 1.4 release? https://github.com/metabrainz/picard/pull/597#i...

I think that @Freso guy on Twitter is a bot, liking all the @metabrainz tweets.

since we return 503 for exceeding the rate limits

yes, it makes sense

though this sudden increase in traffic isn't explained yet

anshuman73: yes, something is wrong with avatars on that page

you can look into that if you want

Gentlecat: I'll try to, might be difficult for a while due to ongoing exams.

Freso, it's doable, especially if I have somebody to go to with questions. Any volunteers?

(regarding https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-5307)

MBS-5307: ws/2 documentation is incomplete and confusing

Oh, on that topic, when/if Gentlecat can show me how lucene scoring is being done that'd be great.

Quesito: Doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

thanks Freso!

CallerNo6: probably better to ask Mineo for now

Quesito: Basically they're setting up a copy of the database without the web frontend and making their own frontend to the database.

Not the vanilla scoring, but how aliases are weighed and stuff like that. The secret sauce.

Gentlecat, roger.

(Is my reading of that.)

But we are cool with that right?

Sure.

The data is public domain/CC0. They can do whatever they want with it. :)

(As long as it doesn't cause harm to the project.)

Coolio! still getting the lay of the tech lino land!

lingo

lingo.append("Coolio")

samj1912: Btw, re: editable ws / ws/3, it would be a pretty big project for GSoC, but we have talked before of separating out the ws so that it can be run separately from the website itself. Which means that ws/3 could, for example, be written in Python.

Quesito: https://musicbrainz.org/artist/cc30e630-8c75-4d... ?

LOL!!!!

mayhem/zas: can I get solr.metabrianz.org?

Gentlecat: sure, pointing on gateways ?

Or solr.metabrainz.org perhaps?

ahah ;)

yeah

or musicbrainz.org actually

solr.mb.o ? ok ?

Would it make sense to use the same SOLR for MB, BB, CrB, ... ?

Eh. CcB?

zas: yep

*the

zas: https://github.com/metabrainz/docker-server-con... see if this looks right

it looks ok to me

cool

Gentlecat: name added; it will take few minutes before it is usable

Freso that might be interesting to code

That will be a large amount of code though, transferring the existing code base and then adding on it

samj1912_riot[m]: ws/3 would be a whole new codebase though.

ws/3 will be fundamentally different from ws/2.

Yeah, but it will have to provide all of the current end points no?

I don't know how much of the ws/3 discussion exists in ticket form, but some of the differences is that we want ws/3 to more atomic - ie., smaller but more requests. Also a more dynamic rate limiting system, instead of the 1 req/s one.

No.

ws/3 is not ws/2.1 :)

Hmmm

samj1912_riot[m]: FWIW, I would *not* recommend that you pursue this as a GSoC project. At least not at this stage.

ws/3 is still very much undefined and with everything else going on right now, I don't think it will have had enough discussion around it to be implementable by the end of the summer.

for reference, https://ocharles.org.uk/v3.html

now there's a document I haven't seen for a long time

(If discussion is started now and tickets are made for wishlist etc., it *could* be a potential GSoC 2018 project.)

A wild ocharles appeared!

What a lurker

:o