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      • Freso
        LordSputnik: I'm going to give others a chance to object, so please poke me in ~24 hours to forward a mail to you if no one's (reasonably) spoken against it. :)
      • 2017-02-01 03225, 2017

      • Quesito
        mayhem: yes.
      • 2017-02-01 03232, 2017

      • mayhem
        when someone takes their project and allows the public to use the site/app/project, then it is considered public and should be making monthly payments.
      • 2017-02-01 03247, 2017

      • Quesito
        ok
      • 2017-02-01 03208, 2017

      • Quesito
        so I go through the same invoice system for this $100, correct?
      • 2017-02-01 03211, 2017

      • mayhem
        yes
      • 2017-02-01 03200, 2017

      • samj1912
        zas sophist made a new PR for the windows debug encoding issue
      • 2017-02-01 03254, 2017

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      • mayhem
        !m Quesito
      • 2017-02-01 03239, 2017

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, Quesito!
      • 2017-02-01 03202, 2017

      • Quesito
        thanks!
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      • mayhem will be pleased to pay Quesito's invoice.
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      • bitmap
        zas: I'm awake
      • 2017-02-01 03231, 2017

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      • mayhem
        zas: everyone but you has gotten their timesheets/invoices in. (well done, thanks everyone!)
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      • CatQuest
        someone (mostly freso) gimme the \o/ emoji (with your sweet, sweet composeblub?)
      • 2017-02-01 03250, 2017

      • Freso
        🙌
      • 2017-02-01 03201, 2017

      • CatQuest
        \o/
      • 2017-02-01 03210, 2017

      • CatQuest
        takker
      • 2017-02-01 03215, 2017

      • Freso
        SĂĽ lidt.
      • 2017-02-01 03247, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ble vi enigme at picard blir utgitt den 14. ja?
      • 2017-02-01 03254, 2017

      • Freso
        zas: ^
      • 2017-02-01 03205, 2017

      • CatQuest
        erh.. in english
      • 2017-02-01 03211, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: zas is the final authority on that question. But it has my vote. :)
      • 2017-02-01 03229, 2017

      • CatQuest
        well I hope so, since i maybe able to get the transaltion down to then
      • 2017-02-01 03254, 2017

      • CatQuest
        love to have it tested in-prog as well as just on the site. thne i cna make updates with the actal progrma in theback
      • 2017-02-01 03252, 2017

      • CatQuest
        (you are welcome to make suggestions for (kinkige) words as well. (since I can't actually look up the danish, german or swedish translations to get ideas))
      • 2017-02-01 03242, 2017

      • Freso
        Yeah. That's pretty sucky. I'm pretty sure you used to be able to.
      • 2017-02-01 03200, 2017

      • Freso
        (Ie., before I got supreme power in system too.)
      • 2017-02-01 03239, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: Feel free to ping zas to update translations in Picard whenever you have done enough that you think it would be nice to test it out live.
      • 2017-02-01 03216, 2017

      • CatQuest
        let me see I'm at 73 % right now (juust shy above danish in fact :D)
      • 2017-02-01 03228, 2017

      • CatQuest
        (which is at 72%)
      • 2017-02-01 03245, 2017

      • Freso
        Danish is horribly undermaintained.
      • 2017-02-01 03253, 2017

      • CatQuest
        heh
      • 2017-02-01 03201, 2017

      • CatQuest
        well i coudl have helped a little with that
      • 2017-02-01 03206, 2017

      • CatQuest
        not as fluent in danish mind
      • 2017-02-01 03220, 2017

      • Freso would honestly rather put his Danish translation efforts towards Apertium, but still hasn't read up on the docs required for that
      • 2017-02-01 03227, 2017

      • CatQuest
        oh, but I found a great word for "case sensitive" wich is actually being used in norwegian IT: versalsensitiv
      • 2017-02-01 03237, 2017

      • Freso
        :)
      • 2017-02-01 03243, 2017

      • Freso
        versalfølsom in Danish.
      • 2017-02-01 03246, 2017

      • zas
        CatQuest: yes, ping when you're done or almost, it will allow you to check
      • 2017-02-01 03246, 2017

      • Rotab
        skiftlägeskänslig
      • 2017-02-01 03258, 2017

      • CatQuest
        what (would) do you use for "cluster", "match", "lookup" and "encoding"
      • 2017-02-01 03259, 2017

      • CatQuest
        I've used "klynge"(or filklynge), ???, oppsøk(or oppslag? søke opp and slü opp(in the process of moving that to "søke opp")) and.. ??
      • 2017-02-01 03214, 2017

      • CatQuest
        zas: with the version i already have downloaded?
      • 2017-02-01 03215, 2017

      • CatQuest
        because there is this bit I'd lie kto check: the text when you initiate a update of a plugin and what it says during, after whne it tels you it iwl lbe odne on next run, and the next run's "it's been updated" text. but i laso don't have any plugins that need updating since i did the only one i had already .s
      • 2017-02-01 03222, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: "klynge", can't remember, "opslag", "kodning"
      • 2017-02-01 03234, 2017

      • CatQuest
        bare vanlig koding? hmm. ok
      • 2017-02-01 03240, 2017

      • zas
        You'll have to use latest build
      • 2017-02-01 03244, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ja det hvar der jeg fikk klynge og oppslag fra
      • 2017-02-01 03238, 2017

      • CatQuest
        zas: right. is it possible to make a small test-plugg-inn that does nothing but just lets it self be "updatedable" easy to to test that I cantext?
      • 2017-02-01 03248, 2017

      • Freso
        I think it might be possible somewhere to get translation suggestions from other languages. I think that's what I set up once to see Swedish and Norwegian and German translations when translating Danish.
      • 2017-02-01 03200, 2017

      • CatQuest
        Freso: woudl be very very good idea
      • 2017-02-01 03210, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: You can run Picard from source and update the .po's manually.
      • 2017-02-01 03216, 2017

      • CatQuest
        I'd recomend, swedish, danish, norwegian, dutch and german
      • 2017-02-01 03232, 2017

      • CatQuest
        Freso: sure *you* can,but for me, this is.. harder :D
      • 2017-02-01 03241, 2017

      • Freso
        Well, semi-manually/automatically.
      • 2017-02-01 03247, 2017

      • CatQuest
        anyway plug ins is someting i don't know how to do
      • 2017-02-01 03251, 2017

      • Freso
        The setup.py has a function to do this.
      • 2017-02-01 03258, 2017

      • CatQuest
        (plug in is separate fro malng i think)
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      • CatQuest
        from lang*
      • 2017-02-01 03220, 2017

      • Freso
        I don't think plugins would be able to update language files.
      • 2017-02-01 03238, 2017

      • CatQuest
        yes, i think we're talking around eachother
      • 2017-02-01 03203, 2017

      • Freso
        Oh. You want to see some specific string in the interface?
      • 2017-02-01 03223, 2017

      • CatQuest
        the update of language files isn't my consern, it was ok to update picar for that. i had a second bequest aobut a quick "testing what updating works and the text for it" type test plugin
      • 2017-02-01 03227, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ja!
      • 2017-02-01 03230, 2017

      • mayhem
        alastairp: I updated the massive PR. any objections to merging with an eye on cleanup/new tickets are reiterated by Gentlecat?
      • 2017-02-01 03235, 2017

      • Freso
        I can try and make a 0.7 copy of the addrelease.py plugin that you can install manually.
      • 2017-02-01 03247, 2017

      • Freso
        Picard should then register that there's a 0.7.1 version available.
      • 2017-02-01 03207, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: ^ does that sound reasonable?
      • 2017-02-01 03210, 2017

      • CatQuest
        how about a separate test pluginthat odes nothing just for testing i don't want to mess up any working plugin
      • 2017-02-01 03234, 2017

      • Gentlecat
        mayhem: I think that's the best option so that we can continue working
      • 2017-02-01 03235, 2017

      • CatQuest
        it can be just a "addplugin22.py" name
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: That's the whole point of using an already existing plugin.
      • 2017-02-01 03256, 2017

      • mayhem
        Gentlecat: yeah.
      • 2017-02-01 03201, 2017

      • CatQuest
        i only have that plugin thoguh :)
      • 2017-02-01 03209, 2017

      • mayhem
        I'm just trying to give alastairp a chance to speak up
      • 2017-02-01 03215, 2017

      • alastairp
        yeah, I don't mind just merging it
      • 2017-02-01 03218, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: A testing plugin would have to be added to the picard-plugins repository for Picard to be able to register there being an update.
      • 2017-02-01 03225, 2017

      • mayhem
        alastairp: thanks.
      • 2017-02-01 03240, 2017

      • CatQuest
        my idea was just something quick that is installed, and thne whne i have installed the next build with the new langs i cna tel lyo uto jsut "chnage a line of the plugincode" or whatever, and i then "update" it
      • 2017-02-01 03248, 2017

      • Freso
        And addrelease.py is the only one I know of having an older version readily available. :)
      • 2017-02-01 03250, 2017

      • CatQuest
        Freso: right. ok
      • 2017-02-01 03216, 2017

      • mayhem
        after lunch I'll dig into finances for a bit and make sure to pay everyone but zas.
      • 2017-02-01 03225, 2017

      • Freso
        Also, the change between 0.7 and 0.7.1 is so minor and you'll only have 0.7 in your system until you re-update it.
      • 2017-02-01 03227, 2017

      • mayhem
        then I'll work on getting testing/containers to be happy.
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      • CatQuest
        Freso: my orry is that it will somehow be flilin because i a) already ypdated from (some nuber) to 0.71 and that b) since we did this, it will fia land no let itself update
      • 2017-02-01 03221, 2017

      • CatQuest
        my only worry*
      • 2017-02-01 03234, 2017

      • CatQuest
        and flilin? is was "flailing"
      • 2017-02-01 03240, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: You can always just remove the plugin and reinstall it from scratch.
      • 2017-02-01 03254, 2017

      • mayhem
        iliekcomputers: I merged the big query branch. you may need to check in on your PRs and see if anything broke.
      • 2017-02-01 03255, 2017

      • Freso
        I'm leading you down a path there's no recovery from.
      • 2017-02-01 03259, 2017

      • Freso
        XD
      • 2017-02-01 03201, 2017

      • Freso
        +not
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      • CatQuest
        Freso: also I thoguht havig a "testing plugins plugin" would be. idk a good idea?
      • 2017-02-01 03221, 2017

      • CatQuest
        maybe not jsut for me, ut for anyone
      • 2017-02-01 03223, 2017

      • Freso
        Plugin functionality is already being tested in the test suite.
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      • Freso
        E.g., Picard responding to updates available etc.
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      • Freso
        (Or they should be.)
      • 2017-02-01 03258, 2017

      • CatQuest
        would be great to have a thing where ei can just *tell it* to "inititate update procedure next run" etc etc whenver
      • 2017-02-01 03232, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: Lots of code/logic would need to be added for very little gain. :/
      • 2017-02-01 03200, 2017

      • CatQuest
        which is why I initially suggested a plugin that did nothing :) but if that requires much messing around with the picard-repository then ok fine :)
      • 2017-02-01 03200, 2017

      • CatQuest
        but honestly, any other plugin doing this with woudl be fine?
      • 2017-02-01 03206, 2017

      • CatQuest
        interesting, the ACAR plugin still has "update" on it..
      • 2017-02-01 03252, 2017

      • CatQuest
        anyway, I'm going ot focus on the actal translation for now
      • 2017-02-01 03219, 2017

      • mayhem
        thanks for the invoice, zas!
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      • zas
        ;)
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      • CatQuest
        Freso: what about our mening of the word "fingerprint" would la literal translation work or do you know of a more used one?
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      • CatQuest
        (does spotify use that word anywhere?)
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: I've used fingeraftryk.
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      • CatQuest
        right
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      • Freso
        Because that's what it's (supposed) to be. A unique print of the item (finger, acoustic data, ...).
      • 2017-02-01 03210, 2017

      • Tykling
        hash works as well
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      • CatQuest
        oh, yes, this is it: the musicla type of "engineer" I don't tihk that's called "ingeniør"
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      • CatQuest
        Tykling: vet ikke om noen for mfor norsk som betyr "hash" nermeste kommer "firkant" for det pĂĽ telefon ,)
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      • Freso
        You could argue for just using "aftryk", but "fingerprint" doesn't denote just any print, but rather a unique one for the item.
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      • Freso
        Tykling: In Danish/Norwegian?
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      • CatQuest
        "lydavtrykk"?
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      • Freso
        I don't think I've seen/heard anyone in Danish using "hash" and not refer to a herb.
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      • Tykling
        no just to explain the concept of a fingerprint in the sense it is used in musicbranz
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      • CatQuest
        hahaha, samme
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      • Tykling
        but no I have no good danish translation (as with many other techical terms)
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      • CatQuest
        i uhm. know that what it means, you guys :P literal translations can be risky thoguh
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      • Freso
        Tykling: But in this case we're in the context of CatQuest translating Picard to Norwegian.
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      • Freso
        Tykling: Sure we do. Fingeraftryk.
      • 2017-02-01 03221, 2017

      • Freso
        It is a perfect 1:1 translation.
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      • CatQuest
        my quip is: is this even used as a "technical termn in norwegian"
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      • Freso
        Having all the conotations and meanings that the English word has.
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      • Freso
        Nothing is lost in translation at all.
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      • CatQuest
        apparently
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      • CatQuest
        but like.. take something like "file naming" easy right? it's "fil navning" but is it "the naming of files", "how files are named" or "a general headline as a title"
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      • Freso
        Tykling: Also, hi lurker :)
      • 2017-02-01 03252, 2017

      • Tykling
        :)
      • 2017-02-01 03254, 2017

      • Tykling
        hello
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      • CatQuest
        rally, really i'd liek to see all this in context :)
      • 2017-02-01 03238, 2017

      • Tykling
        wanted to see what all the fuzz was about you moving to spain and all
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: Current Transifex actually allows uploading screenshots and attach them to strings/strings to them, exactly for that purpose.