22:38 PM
CatQuest
I don't think it ever had trm?
2017-02-07 03806, 2017
22:38 PM
kepstin
some of my mp3 files still have trm ids tagged in them from the classic tagger :/
2017-02-07 03814, 2017
22:38 PM
CatQuest
or maybe the early, pre-qt one did
2017-02-07 03827, 2017
22:38 PM
CatQuest
heh
2017-02-07 03851, 2017
22:38 PM
luks
it only had trms in my dev versions :)
2017-02-07 03803, 2017
22:39 PM
CatQuest
seriously, is the binary of the classic tagger totally gone? might be nice to justl ook at aouta nostalgia
2017-02-07 03807, 2017
22:39 PM
CatQuest
aha
2017-02-07 03826, 2017
22:39 PM
luks
I don't think I ever committed that publicly
2017-02-07 03837, 2017
22:39 PM
luks
it was a part of the migration to puid
2017-02-07 03847, 2017
22:39 PM
CatQuest
ah
2017-02-07 03817, 2017
22:40 PM
CatQuest
also, it wasn't called "classic tagger" it was called "WindowsTagger" heh
2017-02-07 03841, 2017
22:40 PM
CatQuest
i rememer whne picard was still a pipedream :D
2017-02-07 03846, 2017
22:40 PM
luks
you can still get the binaries here :)
2017-02-07 03847, 2017
22:40 PM
luks
2017-02-07 03800, 2017
22:41 PM
CatQuest
:O
2017-02-07 03811, 2017
22:41 PM
luks
but I don't expect they will still work, with both the rdf service and trms gone :)
2017-02-07 03849, 2017
22:41 PM
CatQuest
2017-02-07 03807, 2017
22:48 PM
Freso
That is indeed a very 90's look. ❤️
2017-02-07 03813, 2017
22:49 PM
SothoTalKer
uhhh, the old layout :D
2017-02-07 03807, 2017
22:53 PM
CatQuest
well I always liked it :P
2017-02-07 03821, 2017
22:53 PM
CatQuest
(I can say that now, right? i wont get moirderd)
2017-02-07 03850, 2017
22:53 PM
CatQuest
also ya'll realise that 30 yrs in the fuure that's what they'll all say about the way things look now?
2017-02-07 03853, 2017
22:53 PM
CatQuest
:DDD
2017-02-07 03810, 2017
22:54 PM
CatQuest
they'll be all like "omg remember that "bootstrap" look. llol"
2017-02-07 03817, 2017
22:54 PM
CatQuest
XD
2017-02-07 03845, 2017
22:56 PM
Freso
Mhm.
2017-02-07 03810, 2017
22:57 PM
CatQuest
wonder what the hell things will look like in 30 years
2017-02-07 03822, 2017
22:57 PM
Freso
I actually like the classic/traditional 90's app look better than the early 2000's/late 1990's look.
2017-02-07 03835, 2017
22:57 PM
CatQuest
+1!
2017-02-07 03841, 2017
22:57 PM
Freso
I feel like a lot of things got very "cartoony" for a period.
2017-02-07 03806, 2017
22:58 PM
CatQuest
like buttons made to look like some rubber stamp being depressed
2017-02-07 03812, 2017
22:58 PM
Freso
I do kind of like the current flat trend.
2017-02-07 03801, 2017
22:59 PM
CatQuest
i dislike some times the "flimsy"-ness though, things moving a pixel around if you put the curos in a area
2017-02-07 03815, 2017
22:59 PM
CatQuest
and shadows mavoing too
2017-02-07 03847, 2017
22:59 PM
CatQuest
and the thing with the lack of text on buttons.. but that might be going away soon?
2017-02-07 03854, 2017
22:59 PM
CatQuest
seems ot be less of it recently :D
2017-02-07 03816, 2017
23:00 PM
CatQuest
but todays trend is a bit more like the early 90's actually i think
2017-02-07 03825, 2017
23:00 PM
CatQuest
bit too much whitespace in some apps
2017-02-07 03854, 2017
23:00 PM
CatQuest
like that daemontools one, it's mostly just space and no text at alljust a few icosn and it'sl ike "aht does these things even do?"
2017-02-07 03819, 2017
23:02 PM
CatQuest
hmm but that's odd, wnhe ilok at old 90's progs, they all had no text on icons
2017-02-07 03827, 2017
23:02 PM
CatQuest
so why does it bother me so much more now?
2017-02-07 03806, 2017
23:04 PM
CatQuest
are the new icons sacrificing simplicity for artyness and trying to not "be so stereotypical" or something?
2017-02-07 03852, 2017
23:04 PM
Freso
I find that new icons, following material design trends at least, very much are trying to be more simple and less artsy.
2017-02-07 03859, 2017
23:04 PM
CatQuest
not simplicity. clearness. an arrow down on a diskett is pretty unambiguous to me as what the meaning is.
2017-02-07 03811, 2017
23:05 PM
Freso
CatQuest: Because you're old.
2017-02-07 03824, 2017
23:05 PM
CatQuest
but a 3d arow onto a grey box is less.. obvious?
2017-02-07 03825, 2017
23:06 PM
CatQuest
Freso: if that was the case, the new "save" icon should'a been like upload to an image of a f.kin cloud or something :/
2017-02-07 03829, 2017
23:06 PM
CatQuest
also i'm not "old"
2017-02-07 03845, 2017
23:06 PM
Freso
If you've used a floppy disk, you are. :)
2017-02-07 03847, 2017
23:06 PM
Freso is also old
2017-02-07 03853, 2017
23:06 PM
CatQuest
i never used floppy discs
2017-02-07 03859, 2017
23:06 PM
CatQuest
i've used diskettes
2017-02-07 03807, 2017
23:07 PM
Freso
3,5"?
2017-02-07 03827, 2017
23:07 PM
CatQuest
i don't know how much inces they are.. probably?
2017-02-07 03833, 2017
23:07 PM
agentsim very old
2017-02-07 03836, 2017
23:07 PM
CatQuest
disketter
2017-02-07 03837, 2017
23:07 PM
agentsim
I used 5 1/4 :(
2017-02-07 03841, 2017
23:07 PM
CatQuest
:O
2017-02-07 03853, 2017
23:07 PM
Freso
agentsim: My grandfather had those!
2017-02-07 03859, 2017
23:07 PM
CatQuest
i've only like.. seen them at a school iwas at. there were no machines that could accept thme stil laround
2017-02-07 03803, 2017
23:08 PM
Freso
2017-02-07 03805, 2017
23:08 PM
agentsim
albeit briefly, on a Mac II Classic IIRC
2017-02-07 03818, 2017
23:08 PM
Freso
(Those are 3,5" floppy discs.)
2017-02-07 03831, 2017
23:08 PM
CatQuest
Freso: that is not a floppy, that is a discette
2017-02-07 03843, 2017
23:08 PM
CatQuest
floppy was because they were literally soft, diskettes are hard
2017-02-07 03844, 2017
23:08 PM
Freso
2017-02-07 03859, 2017
23:08 PM
CatQuest
ie the 5 1/4
2017-02-07 03813, 2017
23:09 PM
JonnyJD
CatQuest: inside they are both floppy
2017-02-07 03836, 2017
23:09 PM
Freso
CatQuest: Regardless, if you've used a diskette, you're old.
2017-02-07 03853, 2017
23:09 PM
agentsim
ask a kid I was briefly confused by the difference between a hard-drive and a diskette drive :)
2017-02-07 03856, 2017
23:09 PM
Freso
(Ie., not just used it because "omg, this is, like, so retro!".)
2017-02-07 03803, 2017
23:10 PM
CatQuest
for once i'm certain that i'm right and the rest of the internet is wrong on this. I've read that the terminology (people sue the term "floppy") incorrectly
2017-02-07 03803, 2017
23:10 PM
CallerNo6
What if, and I'm not saying I did, but what if I used an acoustic coupler?
2017-02-07 03814, 2017
23:10 PM
JonnyJD
I used the big floppies and still have some small/hard floppies, And also one machine with a drive..
2017-02-07 03826, 2017
23:10 PM
CatQuest
CallerNo6 is my hero
2017-02-07 03829, 2017
23:10 PM
CatQuest
(also i'm not old)
2017-02-07 03853, 2017
23:10 PM
CatQuest
the small ones are not "floppy" arg!
2017-02-07 03853, 2017
23:10 PM
CatQuest
I bet you call apatosaurs brontosaurus too!!!1111
2017-02-07 03857, 2017
23:10 PM
CallerNo6 uses a 5¼ floppy of Monkey Island as a "spoke card".
2017-02-07 03825, 2017
23:11 PM
agentsim
2017-02-07 03827, 2017
23:11 PM
CatQuest
hey I've played monkey island! ..from a cd on like win 95/me, but
2017-02-07 03834, 2017
23:11 PM
Freso
CatQuest: WWW was invented in 1989. Both of us are older than the WWW. On the internet, we are no longer youngsters.
2017-02-07 03849, 2017
23:11 PM
CatQuest
Freso: still. not. old
2017-02-07 03854, 2017
23:11 PM
Freso shrugs
2017-02-07 03859, 2017
23:11 PM
CatQuest
you can be :not a youngster =/= old
2017-02-07 03828, 2017
23:12 PM
CatQuest
also beign a youngster = sucks
2017-02-07 03835, 2017
23:12 PM
Freso
Really?
2017-02-07 03840, 2017
23:12 PM
Freso
I think gcilou kinda rocks.
2017-02-07 03841, 2017
23:12 PM
CatQuest
really, teens are stupid years. i'm glad i'm over those
2017-02-07 03857, 2017
23:12 PM
CatQuest
I'm not saying youngsters suck, i'm saying beign noe sucked
2017-02-07 03800, 2017
23:13 PM
gcilou
Danke Freso
2017-02-07 03809, 2017
23:13 PM
Freso
gcilou: De res.
2017-02-07 03815, 2017
23:13 PM
CatQuest
gcilou is awesome, that's not at all what am aplying
2017-02-07 03824, 2017
23:13 PM
gcilou
Danke CatQuest
2017-02-07 03832, 2017
23:13 PM
kyan joined the channel
2017-02-07 03854, 2017
23:13 PM
JonnyJD is old enough to go to bed now
2017-02-07 03858, 2017
23:13 PM
CatQuest
agentsim: I'm 35! yes! exactly! :D
2017-02-07 03839, 2017
23:14 PM
JonnyJD
by the way, I didn't add windows binaries for libdiscid because there have been no windows changes, but I will merge luks PR later
2017-02-07 03842, 2017
23:14 PM
CatQuest
but gcilou: when you're 34, you'll look bak on today and think "man, I was so immature!"
2017-02-07 03843, 2017
23:14 PM
CatQuest
or maybe not, you come off as beign rather mature for your age. so...
2017-02-07 03851, 2017
23:14 PM
gcilou
Lol thanks....
2017-02-07 03856, 2017
23:14 PM
gcilou
But yes I understand you
2017-02-07 03801, 2017
23:15 PM
CatQuest
hah
2017-02-07 03831, 2017
23:15 PM
CatQuest
but also I have found.. oddly there is this 20's<16<30's maturity thing going on
2017-02-07 03842, 2017
23:15 PM
gcilou
I'm more comfortable around "adults" anyway but that may make me precocious or whatnot
2017-02-07 03848, 2017
23:15 PM
CatQuest
people in their early 20s are more idiiot than middle late teens
2017-02-07 03840, 2017
23:16 PM
CatQuest
it's like, "now they're really *are* adults so now they really *do* "know everything"" and coem off as arshes
2017-02-07 03810, 2017
23:17 PM
CatQuest
I'm sure 40-50 year odl me will look bakc on today and think "man, what a prat"
2017-02-07 03819, 2017
23:17 PM
CatQuest
:D
2017-02-07 03807, 2017
23:18 PM
gcilou
Ha. I certainly cringe at myself from my early and mid teens
2017-02-07 03810, 2017
23:18 PM
CatQuest
well I hope gcilou will stay around for another 10 years.. it'd be so cool :)
2017-02-07 03821, 2017
23:18 PM
gcilou
Thanks me too :)
2017-02-07 03827, 2017
23:18 PM
CatQuest
\o/
2017-02-07 03858, 2017
23:18 PM
CatQuest
gcilou: man, youshould see my old liveyournal posts.. man.. (lj was like,, tumbler in the odl days like)
2017-02-07 03802, 2017
23:19 PM
Freso
Speaking of cringing at our younger selves, I should get all my stuff moved off of LJ.
2017-02-07 03806, 2017
23:19 PM
CatQuest
but a bit more social, yo ucould comemnt and stuff
2017-02-07 03819, 2017
23:19 PM
gcilou
Hahah
2017-02-07 03830, 2017
23:19 PM
CatQuest
Freso: noone can know you used ot be a spice girls fan
2017-02-07 03840, 2017
23:19 PM
Freso
CatQuest: *BSB
2017-02-07 03854, 2017
23:19 PM
Freso
No. The LJ data has moved to Russian servers.
2017-02-07 03812, 2017
23:20 PM
CatQuest
wait what
2017-02-07 03821, 2017
23:20 PM
CatQuest
bsb? backstreet bous?
2017-02-07 03827, 2017
23:20 PM
CatQuest
boys
2017-02-07 03846, 2017
23:20 PM
CatQuest
i think i prefer spice girls (mel c was awesome :P)
2017-02-07 03852, 2017
23:20 PM
Freso
Subject to Russian governmental peeking etc., meaning that non-traditional gendered/sexually oriented people are theoretically in danger.
2017-02-07 03801, 2017
23:21 PM
CatQuest
..
2017-02-07 03805, 2017
23:21 PM
CatQuest
uh oh
2017-02-07 03811, 2017
23:21 PM
CatQuest
seriously?
2017-02-07 03813, 2017
23:21 PM
Freso
Yes.
2017-02-07 03820, 2017
23:21 PM
CatQuest
wat.
2017-02-07 03824, 2017
23:21 PM
CatQuest
wne did this happen
2017-02-07 03805, 2017
23:22 PM
CatQuest
jeez, jl come a long way since it used ot be like cool and stuff
2017-02-07 03813, 2017
23:22 PM
Freso
2017-02-07 03821, 2017
23:22 PM
CatQuest
i don't wanna shut it down since i've got som any memories :/
2017-02-07 03834, 2017
23:22 PM
Freso
It's been on a downward spiral since it got bought by a Russian company.
2017-02-07 03842, 2017
23:22 PM
Freso
But it's only actually moved the servers to Russia.
2017-02-07 03848, 2017
23:22 PM
Freso
+recently
2017-02-07 03855, 2017
23:22 PM
Freso
Like, December 2016.
2017-02-07 03821, 2017
23:23 PM
Freso
Seems like "dreamhost" is the new "place-to-be".
2017-02-07 03835, 2017
23:23 PM
Freso
"Dreamwidth
2017-02-07 03851, 2017
23:23 PM
Freso
2017-02-07 03812, 2017
23:24 PM
Freso
Oh, yeah, *.livejournal.com also used to be accessible over HTTP—no more.
2017-02-07 03849, 2017
23:24 PM
CatQuest
https?
2017-02-07 03859, 2017
23:24 PM
Freso
Oh, yeah.
2017-02-07 03803, 2017
23:25 PM
hibiscuskazeneko has quit
2017-02-07 03857, 2017
23:25 PM
CatQuest
ah right.
2017-02-07 03829, 2017
23:26 PM
gcilou learns so much from the elderly
2017-02-07 03840, 2017
23:26 PM
Freso
(Which, again, makes it possible to snoop on even private posts, even without gaining physical access to the LJ servers.)
2017-02-07 03806, 2017
23:27 PM
Freso is sad that he's going to basically lose his permanent account :/
2017-02-07 03837, 2017
23:34 PM
CatQuest
lol in 2003 I wrote:
