#metabrainz

also continued to look into the solr indexer

we found some other issues with triggers and now I'm trying to understand how the generation is working

can't move on before that is fixed

fin

zas: ?

I did a bunch of security upgrades on all servers (together with improvements of fabric admin tools), reviewed and merged pending Picard 1.4.1 PRs

(And release Picard 1.4! 🙌)

*released

🙌

the rest of the week i worked on piwik integration, rsyncd containers for it, everything is in place but...

i have to figure out how to improve performance so we can actually processs ~170M hits per day

a part of this will be just dropped, being useless

woah :O that's a lot of data

(mostly 403s)

😮

yes, web service answers ~40M 200s per day alone

🙇

so i expect to have "only" 60M hits to actually feed to piwik

but my first tests show processing is too slow

y'all knew that zas is a wizard, no?

i have various hints, one is to use faster db, play with tons of options, etc...

apart that, i did few updates on nagios stuff

fin.

reosarevok ?

So

I did support, fixed a few issues with some of my PRs from last week, and had a few interesting talks about classical with the employee of one of our supporters here

I really like that they're/he's so involved. :)

Feels good man.

That's about it I think, so yvanz ?

Ok then.

which supporter?

I started to fix small sneaky bugs in MBS, beyond URL cleanup, in an attempt to relieve bitmap's workload.

\o/

!m yvanz

You're doing good work, yvanz!

And that's all folks! ferbncode ?

hi :)

ruaok, whomever agentsim is also working for?

ah, yes.

this week, I opened one PR in CB for showing other reviews of the same user on review page

also worked on the one i opened last week to migrating user code

plus my first small pr to musicbrainz-server got merged :)

fin!

(Other people up: samj1912 Freso CatQuest? LordSputnik? Leftmost Leo_Verto? iliekcomputers – raise your hand if you want to go and I missed you!)

iliekcomputers: Go!

I did a small bugfix on LB. Also, did some work on the PR for db move.

🙌 ferbncode!

Made a discourse post soliciting opinions on what graphs the community would like LB to have, although haven't checkout out the responses yet.

ruaok: dunno actually, didn't specify that I remember

Wasn't able to get much other work done, because I had to travel for my passport. (got selected for a hackathon in abu dhabi :))

fin

CallerNo6: go!

Hi all. https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Development/Summer_... should now be functional.

So if a GSoC student comes in asking "what do I do?" send them there.

\ø/

fin

!m CallerNo6

You're doing good work, CallerNo6!

CallerNo6: Pick the next one. :)

oops. I haven't been following along. Who hasn't gone?

(Other people up: samj1912 Freso CatQuest? LordSputnik? Leftmost Leo_Verto? – raise your hand if you want to go and I missed you!)

CallerNo6: that page is freaking great. thanks!

Leo_Verto, go?

<time passes>

\o

samj1912, go!

Hi

CallerNo6: Generally, people with question marks are people that are possible "targets" but haven't confirmed yet. :)

So, we finally released Picard 1.4 last week :D

🙌 🙌 🙌

( https://blog.musicbrainz.org/2017/02/14/picard-... )

I spent most of the week reviewing 1.4.1 PRs, fixing my own pending PRs, and general builds/PW updates for 1.4 launch along with getting a successful mac osx testing build on travis

fin. Go Freso!

🙋

!m samj1912

You're doing good work, samj1912!

thanks! :D

So, since last meeting, I missed my flight Tuesday morning and got on a flight Wednesday instead. But still, I've spent pretty much all of the week at my girlfriend's, so I haven't been that much around.

Still, I've been keeping up with forums and IRC at least.

And I've managed to do some Discourse version upgrading.

And I tried to help out what little I could with the Picard release.

And I've been working a bit on some small CLI scripts to help get data into MB.

And I made a PR against python-discid, but I haven't heard anything from JonnyJD, so no idea if it needs additional attention or not.

Ah well.

fin.

Leftmost!

Prompted by a question from Quesito (which I never actually answered because I fell asleep), I've been thinking about the state of BookBrainz. I think we're close to having something we can be proud of, but I've personally been lacking time and motivation, and I think Ben has had a similar lack of time (though I don't want to speak too much for him).

I absolutely want to keep pushing forward, but on a personal level I'm not sure how best to work toward that. If anyone has good advice or resources for keeping up the motivation and pace on a startup project, I’d love to hear it.

Fin. Go, null!

No word from CatQuest, LordSputnik, or Leo_Verto, so let's move on.

yvanz: MBS-9062: Convert Spotify URLs

We started to discuss it last week already, see https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metab... for the beginning.

Leftmost: i'll be asking more q's this week ;)

To summarize, it is about whether or not we should convert existing play.spotify URLs to open.spotify URLs using direct SQL update?

- Good points: 1. working solution at hand 2. doable within a week 3. do not flood subscribed editors with worthless notifications.

- Bad points: 1. no trace in editing history.

Quesito, please do. It's a good way to get me to think about things, even if I don't answer because I fell asleep. ;)

np!

well, I'd like to see a clear-cut rule. "changing the scheme is ok" is understandable, but "it's only 4 characters" is too arbitrary for me

(Links to) Previous discussion about transformations: https://gist.github.com/Freso/81e0227d857981302...

The decision with the scheme was also that doing edits was preferred, but no one stepped up to write up and run a bot to do it, so we decided to do it as SQL edits rather than not doing it at all.

(I looked up previous discussions earlier today.)

Aren't there bots that can do this already?

And then Yes.

* Yes.

Note that it is also doable using a bot, 4K is a very little number of URLs compared to previous conversion (wikidata/wikipedia). Maybe we can also use the number of URLs for clear-cut rule.

As it’s only 4000, someone could also do it by hand if they don’t want to write a bot.

But someone would still need to program them to specifically do this conversion.

(Where “by hand” = type a space at the beginning or end so that the URL cleanup code is run.)

chirlu: that'd take ages, huge waste of time. But I'd agree to do it by bot rathern than SQL script is better

Does anyone have a suggestion for what bot to modify? It shouldn't be super hard if anything is already programmed to touch URLs...

I think both the de facto Perl and Python bots can do URL editing.

I think murdosbot used to do Discogs URL adds?

(Which is the Python one IIRC.)

Unless my supervisor actually gives me something to do tomorrow for my internship, I could take a look I guess

Unless yvanz wants to finish the stuff himself too

Initially, the idea to quickly convert Spotify URLs is a user request. If it is not urgent, we are good with other solutions.

Definitely not urgent, but should get done

I'm currently making a script that interacts with Spotify and MB. It would be nice to know that MB Spotify URLs were standardised. :)

https://thereisabotforthat.com/ useful?

Quesito: we have our own bots already, we just need to modify them a bit :)

Quesito: Probably not. :) We already know of the relevant MB editing bots.

ah

Ok I'll try to take a look sometime this week

:)

At this point, there is no consensus for doing direct db update, so I think we are done with that point. Bots are another topic, IMHO. Freso?

Yep.

reosarevok: Will you look into botting the URLs?

I will, yup, unless I'm actually given work to do

Which hasn't happened in a week so

Great. Motion carried then. :)

reosarevok: MBS-8820: Blank relationship pages for event-only artists

So, right now when an artist only features in an event, but doesn't have any other rels, we get a literally empty rels page

The event is displayed on the events tab

Should we show event rels also in the normal rels page? (We show work ones despite having a works page)

It would be nice if whatever information an artist has is shown on the "Overview" tab.

Or should we just correct it to say "it has only event relationships" with a link to events?

So if they don't have Release, show Recordings. No Recordings, show relationships. No relationships, show Events.

Well sure but that's not really relevant to this specific question :)

showing stuff on multiple pages doesn't sound good

The relationship page would still be empty

*the same stuff

reosarevok: I'd say "Only events." → ./events