#metabrainz

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      • ruaok
        zas has a much better understanding of speakers than I do.
      • 2017-02-25 05657, 2017

      • CatQuest
        👍
      • 2017-02-25 05604, 2017

      • ruaok
        your issue isn't so much a cabling issue, as much as "how do stereo's drive speakers"
      • 2017-02-25 05617, 2017

      • CatQuest
        right!
      • 2017-02-25 05634, 2017

      • ruaok
        yes, without a doubt you can make the cabling work. easy, right?
      • 2017-02-25 05634, 2017

      • ruaok
        but, will it work on an electric level?
      • 2017-02-25 05606, 2017

      • ruaok
        the range of possibilities is: works, but really quiet -- worked for 10ms then POP, now smoke it pouring out.
      • 2017-02-25 05633, 2017

      • CatQuest
        hmm.. the speakers are powered by a electric cable separate from teverything though..
      • 2017-02-25 05655, 2017

      • CatQuest
        they are "small" electric "pc/computer" speakers
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      • CatQuest
        they are connected together and has one audio jack out which goes into (one) machine/player/whatever.
      • 2017-02-25 05651, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: I have used 2m cables m-m minijack cables just fine in the past.
      • 2017-02-25 05659, 2017

      • CatQuest
        one speaker is conencted to the other which has t the audio out and te electric in attached ot itself, thiso en also has a volume knob (and! a separate "phones" inn infront!)
      • 2017-02-25 05631, 2017

      • ruaok
        you want two sounds sources to share one set of speakers?
      • 2017-02-25 05639, 2017

      • CatQuest
        (presumably that means I can listen to things with headphones wiouth switching at the back fo amachine)
      • 2017-02-25 05643, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ruaok: ding!
      • 2017-02-25 05609, 2017

      • ruaok
        should work as long as you only have one source playing at time.
      • 2017-02-25 05638, 2017

      • ruaok
        play both and the results can range from everything is ok to clipping to breaking speakers.
      • 2017-02-25 05642, 2017

      • CatQuest
        yea. I'd likely turn off the one player if listing to somethingon the other :)
      • 2017-02-25 05650, 2017

      • CatQuest
        right
      • 2017-02-25 05619, 2017

      • CatQuest
        but wil lthe sort of cable with different colours on the males and icons of a headphone and a phone on each of those work? guy at the store said "probably not"
      • 2017-02-25 05641, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: The eBay item you linked is likely not what you want. It seems like that is converting two 3-band plugs (audio-in + audio-out) to a 4-band plug (audio-in+out).
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      • ruaok
        Freso: that converts nothing -- it is a simple cable that does no conversion/processing at all.
      • 2017-02-25 05632, 2017

      • CatQuest
        Freso: yea ruaok oh?
      • 2017-02-25 05636, 2017

      • ruaok
        the colors on ends and icons are hints for connecting things easily.
      • 2017-02-25 05641, 2017

      • CatQuest
        right!
      • 2017-02-25 05648, 2017

      • ruaok
        they should not affect the performance of the cable.
      • 2017-02-25 05631, 2017

      • CatQuest
        how do you see the diff between such a conversion thing and a one that doesnt?
      • 2017-02-25 05649, 2017

      • Freso
        "Allows connection to any 3.5mm stereo headphone With Mic.
      • 2017-02-25 05650, 2017

      • Freso
        Two male ports:one for Headphone Jack on your PC/Laptop,the other for Mic Jack on your PC/Laptop."
      • 2017-02-25 05650, 2017

      • CatQuest
        this is cheap chine stuff so i dunno if it' any good
      • 2017-02-25 05659, 2017

      • ruaok
        anything that does processing needs to have space for a circuit board and it needs power.
      • 2017-02-25 05610, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ruaok: !
      • 2017-02-25 05611, 2017

      • ruaok
        that cable has neither.
      • 2017-02-25 05635, 2017

      • Freso
        It doesn't need processing to send a signal from one wire to another wire...
      • 2017-02-25 05642, 2017

      • CatQuest
        I was wondering about that actually. since.. well how does a cable (presumably) nkow if the stream of electrons is going in one or the other direction
      • 2017-02-25 05630, 2017

      • CatQuest
        how does a wre know if it's a injack or an out jack though. .seriously?
      • 2017-02-25 05639, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: It doesn't. Jack cables work both ways. (You can also use headphones as microphones. Try it!)
      • 2017-02-25 05647, 2017

      • ruaok
        the electrons will stop and ask for directions if it isn't clear.
      • 2017-02-25 05647, 2017

      • ruaok
        :-p
      • 2017-02-25 05652, 2017

      • CatQuest
        :O that's basically waht i wanted to know, thnak you
      • 2017-02-25 05617, 2017

      • Freso
        But what that eBay item does is taking 2 3-band jacks and convert/direct to(/from) a 4-band jack.
      • 2017-02-25 05642, 2017

      • CatQuest
        so that means that this shoud lactually work, it might be a lowr sound or worse quality, but the sound/electricity/signal should travel from either male jack to the fmeale one
      • 2017-02-25 05616, 2017

      • CatQuest
        what is a 3 ban and a 4 band tho?
      • 2017-02-25 05627, 2017

      • Freso
        Ie., take separate "input" jacks for a mic (1 3-band jack) and a speaker/headphone (1 3-band jack) and output to a 4-band jack (audio out left, audio out right, audio in (mono, I guess?), and... ground?).
      • 2017-02-25 05654, 2017

      • CatQuest
        right
      • 2017-02-25 05607, 2017

      • CatQuest
        so why shouldn't this work?
      • 2017-02-25 05620, 2017

      • Freso
      • 2017-02-25 05642, 2017

      • CatQuest
        both these male jacks are going into audio out anyway, and the female is having speakers plugged into it
      • 2017-02-25 05659, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: Because you'll lose channels.
      • 2017-02-25 05624, 2017

      • CatQuest
        evne if i play only one at a time?
      • 2017-02-25 05649, 2017

      • Freso
        Hold on. Let me draw on a paper.
      • 2017-02-25 05606, 2017

      • CatQuest
        👍
      • 2017-02-25 05651, 2017

      • SothoTalKer
        jack of all trades?
      • 2017-02-25 05613, 2017

      • CatQuest
      • 2017-02-25 05613, 2017

      • CatQuest
        but please hlep find one that does
      • 2017-02-25 05643, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: Look at Y splitters.
      • 2017-02-25 05658, 2017

      • Freso
        Those take the same signal and copies it.
      • 2017-02-25 05607, 2017

      • CatQuest
        I am, they are all like the one I linked or 2 female 1 male
      • 2017-02-25 05608, 2017

      • CatQuest
      • 2017-02-25 05624, 2017

      • Freso
        Instead of taking two signals and combining them (or taking one signal and splitting it).
      • 2017-02-25 05632, 2017

      • CatQuest
        yes get it
      • 2017-02-25 05644, 2017

      • CatQuest
        that is *what I'm looking for* ¬¬
      • 2017-02-25 05625, 2017

      • CatQuest
        literally searching "split cable y male female"
      • 2017-02-25 05601, 2017

      • CatQuest
        I need to know the magic word for "fidn me one that does splitting and not for phones like the get up yo usaid"
      • 2017-02-25 05608, 2017

      • CatQuest
        also i stil lwant to see that illu of yours
      • 2017-02-25 05633, 2017

      • Freso
      • 2017-02-25 05642, 2017

      • Freso
        (For a simple, "low tech" solution.)
      • 2017-02-25 05603, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ARG
      • 2017-02-25 05604, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ffs
      • 2017-02-25 05606, 2017

      • Freso
        Note that the single jack has three metal bands/two rubber bands.
      • 2017-02-25 05625, 2017

      • CatQuest
        that is not what i want
      • 2017-02-25 05628, 2017

      • CatQuest
        i need the opposite of that
      • 2017-02-25 05607, 2017

      • Freso
        Unlike the middle one in http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-5mm-1-8-Jack-Plug-M-t… which has 4 metal bands/3 rubber bands.
      • 2017-02-25 05626, 2017

      • Freso
        Eh.
      • 2017-02-25 05627, 2017

      • CatQuest
        also ftr: the white one 's TWO males also have 3 metal bands and 2 rubber bands
      • 2017-02-25 05635, 2017

      • Freso
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: Yes, but the female one doesn't, according to the description.
      • 2017-02-25 05611, 2017

      • CatQuest
        right so i get it, it needs 3 metal 2 ruber. so why is the white one wrong?
      • 2017-02-25 05615, 2017

      • CatQuest
        oh ho
      • 2017-02-25 05655, 2017

      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
        find a female two male one that is what yo udescribe
      • 2017-02-25 05625, 2017

      • CatQuest
        where/waht is the "the female doesn't have 3 metal bands and two rubber bands inside it but the other type" text in that white description?
      • 2017-02-25 05641, 2017

      • CatQuest
        is it "aux"? doesn't that mean auxiliary..
      • 2017-02-25 05603, 2017

      • Freso
        Try to look for minijack instead of audio cable.
      • 2017-02-25 05617, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ! cool
      • 2017-02-25 05617, 2017

      • CatQuest
        i will
      • 2017-02-25 05625, 2017

      • Freso
        There are tons of different audio cable types out there. (@seeAlso xkcd/standards)
      • 2017-02-25 05614, 2017

      • Freso downloading imgur app...
      • 2017-02-25 05626, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ut oh
      • 2017-02-25 05612, 2017

      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
        "This flexible stereo y-cable splits an audio signal without a loss of signal quality. "
      • 2017-02-25 05611, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ??
      • 2017-02-25 05611, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: If they have mic and headphone icons, they're almost certainly converting between 2×3 channel and 1×4 channel.
      • 2017-02-25 05623, 2017

      • CatQuest
        well they all literally have that
      • 2017-02-25 05652, 2017

      • CatQuest
        and I mean, literally literally
      • 2017-02-25 05607, 2017

      • Freso
        http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-5mm-1-8-Jack-Plug-M-t… doesn't. If you can only find M-2F, maybe get a small F-F and put in front of it?
      • 2017-02-25 05624, 2017

      • CatQuest
        that will /work/ ?
      • 2017-02-25 05647, 2017

      • CatQuest
        also no
      • 2017-02-25 05606, 2017

      • CatQuest
        can I use a M-2M and put a F-F in it and will that *work*
      • 2017-02-25 05607, 2017

      • Freso
        It should. Each coupling you put in will likely deteriorate the signal a small bit though.
      • 2017-02-25 05636, 2017

      • CatQuest
        yes well
      • 2017-02-25 05605, 2017

      • Freso
        Great. The Imgur app isn't letting me sign in, probably because the phone is rooted. Come on Imgur.
      • 2017-02-25 05609, 2017

      • CatQuest
        i s*still* don't see how the things lei kthe white one (which have te wto sound in and one soudn out won't work, you promised and ilustration! :P)
      • 2017-02-25 05625, 2017

      • Freso
        CatQuest: Yes, that's why I'm fiddling with the Imgur app.
      • 2017-02-25 05627, 2017

      • CatQuest
        tht's lame
      • 2017-02-25 05630, 2017

      • CatQuest
        aha!
      • 2017-02-25 05618, 2017

      • CatQuest
        might be easier/faster to just
      • 2017-02-25 05606, 2017

      • Freso
        Got it working now.
      • 2017-02-25 05611, 2017

      • CatQuest
        :D
      • 2017-02-25 05637, 2017

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      • Freso
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: ^ Note how the L/R from Comp B is directed into the M channel. Soundsystem doesn't have M channel at all in its input.
      • 2017-02-25 05609, 2017

      • CatQuest
        so what you're saying is that the microphone inn is separate from l/r which the only microphone inn one doesn't have(or the that machine fon' output) so therefore (ofcourse) the speakers don't have the l/r input for mone of thme
      • 2017-02-25 05630, 2017

      • CatQuest
        fon' = don't
      • 2017-02-25 05648, 2017

      • Freso
        Yes.
      • 2017-02-25 05608, 2017

      • CatQuest
        arg, how dumb
      • 2017-02-25 05610, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ok
      • 2017-02-25 05628, 2017

      • CatQuest
        I need two l/r -> whatever then
      • 2017-02-25 05651, 2017

      • CatQuest
        so my first qustion "why is it to hard to find that" :P
      • 2017-02-25 05600, 2017

      • CatQuest
        thank you Freso
      • 2017-02-25 05649, 2017

      • Freso
        I don't know why it's so hard. I couldn't find any of those L/R+M→L/R/M when I was looking for them a couple months ago, only the other type. :p
      • 2017-02-25 05609, 2017

      • Freso
        Also. Heading out now. Will be back later.
      • 2017-02-25 05619, 2017

      • CatQuest
        \o bye! and thanks!
      • 2017-02-25 05602, 2017

      • SothoTalKer
        Freso: your handwriting is that of a doctor :-)
      • 2017-02-25 05614, 2017

      • CatQuest
        nah, not *that* bad
      • 2017-02-25 05625, 2017

      • CatQuest
        it was legible after all
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      • SothoTalKer
        finally, my new chair arrived :x
      • 2017-02-25 05621, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        morning, I see you did audio stuff?
      • 2017-02-25 05643, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        CatQuest, what exactly is your setup?
      • 2017-02-25 05617, 2017

      • CatQuest
        as I said, one pc speaker and two computers that I want both to plug in to the one speaker
      • 2017-02-25 05620, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        okay, pretty sure a splitter wouldn't really work and not even be a good idea
      • 2017-02-25 05625, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        probably even dangerous as your outputs would be "fighting" each other
      • 2017-02-25 05652, 2017

      • CatQuest
        why are people assuming i'd be playing things concurrently?
      • 2017-02-25 05620, 2017

      • CatQuest
        also two outputs to one imput is not at all uncommon, i mena i have something not disimilar for my tv and setup of gameconsoles
      • 2017-02-25 05656, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        well, you still effectively short two ouputs together
      • 2017-02-25 05619, 2017

      • CatQuest
        I don't really, since it's neight impossible to find such a wire anyway :P
      • 2017-02-25 05623, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        if you know how to solder, this seems like a decent solution http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/linesum.html
      • 2017-02-25 05626, 2017

      • CatQuest
        what abotu a switch? tho
      • 2017-02-25 05643, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        switch would work, but a switch is a switch :P
      • 2017-02-25 05612, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        another option, if one computer is always running would be to input the other's output into it and solve stuff digitally
      • 2017-02-25 05617, 2017

      • CatQuest
        stil lless hassle than to unplug the speakers fro moen machine and plug thme int othe other
      • 2017-02-25 05617, 2017

      • CatQuest
        :P
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      • Leo_Verto
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      • CatQuest
        that assumes I have stereo inputs.. i don't
      • 2017-02-25 05623, 2017

      • CatQuest
        these are not high-tec hi-fi, it's just the sort of conenctinos like cheap headphones
      • 2017-02-25 05630, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        doesn't matter what you put into it, 3.5mm stereo is backwards compatible to 3.5mm mono