discussing with ruok tonight about it, we'll go for snapshots (processing only each 3 days)
2017-02-27 05802, 2017
LordSputnik
ruaok: yo momma's fat
2017-02-27 05804, 2017
Freso
A fat log is a sturdy log.
2017-02-27 05811, 2017
gcilou
LordSputnik +1
2017-02-27 05820, 2017
zas
so we can get a general view of web service
2017-02-27 05826, 2017
ruaok
LordSputnik: at least she ain't ugly, like Leftmost's momma
2017-02-27 05840, 2017
alastairp
here
2017-02-27 05851, 2017
zas
apart that, i did usual maintainance, PR reviews, and a bunch of MB edits
2017-02-27 05804, 2017
zas
also i made it to BCN ;)
2017-02-27 05809, 2017
Freso
🙌
2017-02-27 05826, 2017
reosarevok
Freso: yo momma's got a sturdy log?
2017-02-27 05833, 2017
zas
Hope to meet you all soon ;)
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
Freso
Not that I know of.
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
Quesito
benvinguda zas!
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
ruaok
lol
2017-02-27 05801, 2017
zas
Next ? alastairp ?
2017-02-27 05804, 2017
alastairp
hi
2017-02-27 05823, 2017
alastairp
last week I was in meetings *all* week, so didn't do much
2017-02-27 05832, 2017
zas
ahah
2017-02-27 05857, 2017
alastairp
although I did a bit of hacking to try and get an API using GraphQL, and getting data from a database
2017-02-27 05803, 2017
alastairp
as a quick hack
2017-02-27 05834, 2017
alastairp
seems to work really well. Freso pointed me at another implementation which just hits our ws. it could be interesting to get a proof of concept going to see
2017-02-27 05855, 2017
alastairp
nice thing is it lets you specify exactly what fields/relationships you want returned in a request
2017-02-27 05805, 2017
Freso
I did?
2017-02-27 05806, 2017
reosarevok coughs. Not (only?) Freso :p
2017-02-27 05808, 2017
Freso
!m Freso
2017-02-27 05808, 2017
BrainzBot
You're doing good work, Freso!
2017-02-27 05814, 2017
alastairp
oh, maybe it was reosarevok
2017-02-27 05822, 2017
alastairp
other than that, I did a bit of code review for ruaok and some AB review
2017-02-27 05823, 2017
Freso doesn't even remember 🙈
2017-02-27 05837, 2017
alastairp
a bit of planning for SoC
2017-02-27 05845, 2017
reosarevok
To which we're accepted! yay
2017-02-27 05848, 2017
alastairp
fin. ruaok ?
2017-02-27 05849, 2017
Freso
\o/
2017-02-27 05849, 2017
reosarevok
etc
2017-02-27 05805, 2017
ruaok
last week I was battling a cold so things moved slower than usual.
2017-02-27 05809, 2017
Freso
(Other people up: Gentlecat bitmap LordSputnik - anyone feeling left out, raise your hand. :))
2017-02-27 05825, 2017
reosarevok
You fought the cold and the cold won?
2017-02-27 05843, 2017
ruaok
I spent quite a bit of time working LB and getting the PR count down. some talking about LB and general philosophy on computer science with iliekcomputers.
2017-02-27 05854, 2017
ruaok
some shit talking to SothoTalKer and the like.
2017-02-27 05805, 2017
ruaok
also dealing with some contracts and sending out invoices.
2017-02-27 05829, 2017
ruaok
and plotting the evil overthrow of our russian friends. Quesito writes a mean dossier!
2017-02-27 05845, 2017
ruaok
fin.
2017-02-27 05845, 2017
ruaok
iliekcomputers: you here?
2017-02-27 05848, 2017
CallerNo6
!m mayhem
2017-02-27 05848, 2017
BrainzBot
You're doing good work, mayhem!
2017-02-27 05857, 2017
Quesito is very loyal, don't cross her ;)
2017-02-27 05807, 2017
ruaok doesn't plan to.
2017-02-27 05810, 2017
ruaok
ok, LordSputnik, go.
2017-02-27 05824, 2017
reosarevok would like to see how a mean dossier about us would look like tbh
2017-02-27 05829, 2017
LordSputnik
This week I've mainly been tidying up and modernizing code in BookBrainz
2017-02-27 05841, 2017
LordSputnik
Not particularly productive, but better to set good standards now than later on
2017-02-27 05843, 2017
Freso
(Leftmost?)
2017-02-27 05849, 2017
LordSputnik
fin. ;)
2017-02-27 05851, 2017
reosarevok
Modernizing? Isn't it like 1 year old? :D
2017-02-27 05857, 2017
LordSputnik
reosarevok: JavaScript
2017-02-27 05807, 2017
LordSputnik
Who still needs to go?
2017-02-27 05814, 2017
LordSputnik
bitmap?
2017-02-27 05814, 2017
Freso
reosarevok: It hasn't changed language for more than a year, it needs to change in some other way.
2017-02-27 05822, 2017
ruaok
in JS years it is effectively dead. :)
2017-02-27 05831, 2017
bitmap
been working on the sentry pr more
2017-02-27 05854, 2017
bitmap
tried to remove some of the code we had to reimplement and integrate it better with Catalyst, which is still a pain
2017-02-27 05815, 2017
Freso
(Only Gentlecat left on my list. Anyone else up for review(ing), now's the chance to step forward!)
2017-02-27 05816, 2017
bitmap
got it to include to contents of @_ for each stack frame in the reports
2017-02-27 05800, 2017
bitmap
fully tested it in the release editor and got it to properly report errors there for stuff we care about, with correct stack trace context (i.e. from where the error occured, not the eval/catch block)
2017-02-27 05841, 2017
bitmap
spent a bunch of time reviewing/testing prs too, since we've gotten quite a few from yvanz / Zastai lately
2017-02-27 05855, 2017
Freso
!m yvanz / Zastai
2017-02-27 05855, 2017
BrainzBot
You're doing good work, yvanz / Zastai!
2017-02-27 05857, 2017
bitmap
fin, Gentlecat
2017-02-27 05849, 2017
Gentlecat
I spent some more time figuring out how trigger generation code works in sir
2017-02-27 05811, 2017
Gentlecat
wrote some documentation, done a bit of refactoring
2017-02-27 05855, 2017
Gentlecat
also started planning how to implement better trigger functions/messages
2017-02-27 05805, 2017
Gentlecat
fin
2017-02-27 05812, 2017
Freso
Thanks everyone!
2017-02-27 05824, 2017
Freso
With no one else having spoken up, let's move on with the program.
2017-02-27 05832, 2017
Freso
Freso: resuming meeting notes
2017-02-27 05835, 2017
Freso
🙋
2017-02-27 05807, 2017
Freso
I'm going to resume the weekly meeting notes soon. I've asked for feedback on how to approach it on the forum, to give y'all a chance to decide the path forward: https://community.metabrainz.org/t/resuming-the-m…
2017-02-27 05817, 2017
Freso
Please go vote/comment there. :)
2017-02-27 05827, 2017
Freso
fin.
2017-02-27 05832, 2017
Freso
samj1912: Picard 2.0.
2017-02-27 05844, 2017
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | GSoC Geting Started: https://goo.gl/JTNkn0 | MeB meeting agenda: Picard 2.0 (samj1912), schema change (Freso)
2017-02-27 05858, 2017
samj1912
Hi everyone
2017-02-27 05823, 2017
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | GSoC Getting Started: https://goo.gl/JTNkn0 | MeB meeting agenda: Picard 2.0 (samj1912), schema change (Freso)
2017-02-27 05828, 2017
samj1912
so the dev. cycle for picard 1.4 is almost at its end with 1.4.1 PRs almost merged
2017-02-27 05840, 2017
sampsyo
Freso: I totally dropped that one on the floor, sorry—but I still really want to do it!
I basically wanted to decide a rough roadmap for how we should be progressing with 2.0
2017-02-27 05812, 2017
samj1912
and set an order/priority on the above tasks
2017-02-27 05825, 2017
samj1912
along with the direction we want picard 2.0 to go in
2017-02-27 05839, 2017
samj1912
zas bitmap Freso input?
2017-02-27 05846, 2017
samj1912
s/input/inputs
2017-02-27 05805, 2017
Freso
I think Qt5 or Py3 should happen first. And then the other one.
2017-02-27 05817, 2017
zas
any update on antlar patch for cover art + album ?
2017-02-27 05835, 2017
zas
if not, we can release 1.4.1 this week, without it
2017-02-27 05846, 2017
samj1912
zas antlarr was busy last I heard from him
2017-02-27 05802, 2017
samj1912
He was gonna join the meeting
2017-02-27 05825, 2017
Freso
UI/UX overhaul is likely going to be pretty invasive, so that might be nice to have as the next target. But it's also pretty invasive, so might not be possible to actually do before a lot of other improvements.
2017-02-27 05832, 2017
bitmap
I'm skeptical there needs to be an "api v2"
2017-02-27 05832, 2017
Freso
antlarr is online at last.
2017-02-27 05851, 2017
zas
bitmap: for plugins ?
2017-02-27 05818, 2017
zas
yes, but clearly using in-app deployement wasn't really on the radar when api v1 was designed
2017-02-27 05826, 2017
bitmap
for the plugins endpoint
2017-02-27 05839, 2017
zas
not sure though if we need 1.1 or 2.0 though ;)
2017-02-27 05848, 2017
zas
no definitive thoughts about it yet
2017-02-27 05812, 2017
bitmap
I mean I'm not sure why picard/the website can't just filter things based on the plugin api version
2017-02-27 05851, 2017
Freso
(About priorities/roadmap: PICARD-975 and PICARD-976 can be done independently of UI/UX overhaul at least, but PICARD-9 might have some parts of it depending on the overhaul. But maybe that's less important whether it happens before or after overhaul.)
Maybe we can discuss plugin API versions at next meeting? Seems like it's big enough a topic for a separate agenda item. :)
2017-02-27 05846, 2017
samj1912
Freso: and I also discussed the possibility of including picard user stats while querying
2017-02-27 05851, 2017
zas
this is why i don't want to delay 1.4.1 even more, we release it and focus on 2.0. If some important issues is found in 1.4.1 will just do a maintainance release
2017-02-27 05853, 2017
Freso
I read samj1912's notes more like trying to make some kind of roadmap for 2.0.
2017-02-27 05844, 2017
Freso
Okay. So release 1.4.1 and then try and make 2.0 roadmap?
2017-02-27 05828, 2017
bitmap
samj1912: maybe the ticket is not explained very well then, I'll comment there
2017-02-27 05828, 2017
Freso
ruaok: We're discussing Picard 2.0.
2017-02-27 05858, 2017
samj1912
bitmap: okay :)
2017-02-27 05808, 2017
zas
The most important will be to define tasks for GSoC related to Picard 2.0
2017-02-27 05814, 2017
ruaok
I get that, but conversation just stalled. it would be nice to move things along and respect everyone's time.
2017-02-27 05826, 2017
zas
ruaok: +1
2017-02-27 05830, 2017
Freso
samj1912 zas bitmap: "So release 1.4.1 and then try and make 2.0 roadmap?"
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
zas
k
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
samj1912
cool with me :)
2017-02-27 05844, 2017
samj1912
we can discuss more after the meeting :)
2017-02-27 05809, 2017
samj1912
Freso: you can bump the meeting agenda, done from my side :)
2017-02-27 05815, 2017
Freso
Alright.
2017-02-27 05825, 2017
Freso
Freso: schema change
2017-02-27 05847, 2017
Freso
So. No one has talked anything about schema change tickets or anything so far this year.
2017-02-27 05801, 2017
ruaok
because we normally start on march 1.
2017-02-27 05818, 2017
ruaok
bitmap: do you feel like we need one?
2017-02-27 05831, 2017
Freso
Experience shows that last minute schema change hacking often gives pretty chaotic results.
2017-02-27 05846, 2017
bitmap
I'd like there to be one at least, but I won't personally be working on anything big because I still have to finish the UI from last year
2017-02-27 05803, 2017
ruaok
any thoughts on what should be tackled?
2017-02-27 05807, 2017
chirlu would like to move the schema change date to November in general.
2017-02-27 05811, 2017
reosarevok would be happy with using the time to finish last year's stuff, releasing a schema change only if there's stuff on the pipeline from chirlu or someone
2017-02-27 05830, 2017
ruaok
but if you're not available to work on it, not sure if we can have a new hire in place to start on that soon.
2017-02-27 05831, 2017
reosarevok
(and making sure we have the *second* schema change in case there's GSoC stuff that needs one)
2017-02-27 05847, 2017
bitmap
not at the moment, I have to look through the schema change component
2017-02-27 05851, 2017
ruaok
I'm happy to delay to november.
2017-02-27 05825, 2017
ruaok
bitmap: wanna do that and then we'll have a look next week?
2017-02-27 05838, 2017
bitmap
sure
2017-02-27 05841, 2017
Freso
Yeah. What I'm trying to say is that March 1 is likely too late to start *thinking* about what to put in a Spring schema change. If people aren't already at least thinking about what to put in a schema change, it's likely going to be a rushed affair yet again.
