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      • ruaok
        :D \ø/
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      • agentsim
        I'm noticing when matching looking up recordings by acoustic fingerprint that there are many times where the recording that is returned doesn't exist in musicbrainz
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      • agentsim
        any idea why this is?
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      • bitmap
        got an example?
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      • bitmap
        it's possible for recordings to be removed, but I wouldn't expect that to happen often
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      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | GSoC Getting Started: https://goo.gl/JTNkn0 | MeB meeting agenda: BrainzBot brain plugin (Leo), DR: CB-244 (Gentlecat), DR: MBS-9271 (bitmap)
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      • samj1912
        What does DR mean?
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      • bitmap
        Decision Required
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      • agentsim
        bitmap: there are plenty, but I realized that it isn't as bad as I thought. I was thinking some acoustIDs weren't associated to existing recordings anymore, but in each case it was just one, usually obviously bad recording that was missing.
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      • antlarr
        samj1912: I know you're probably travelling now, but just so that you answer when you have some time: you said: "IHMO we can move the if clause below to the top and move the above block to an else.", would it be ok for you if I move the if clause to the top and make it return so there's no need for "else" and there's less indentation on that method?
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      • samj1912
        antlarr okay with me
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      • samj1912
        Glanced over your latest commits :)
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      • samj1912
        Looks good
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      • antlarr
        cool :)
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      • samj1912
        Will review it once I am back home
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      • antlarr
        I'm now reading zas' comments
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      • antlarr
        zas: can you give me an example of a release with multiple front images?
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      • antlarr
        samj1912, zas, Freso: when dragging & dropping an image on the cover art box, I think it's more natural to replace the front cover art image with the dropped image, but it seems zas thinks it's better to append the image thus having multiple front images. Since I think both options have arguments for and against, I'll add an option so the user can select to "replace front images on drop" or "append front images on drop". Would you
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      • antlarr
        prefer to have that option in the Options dialog (user interface section) or in the new cover art box's context menu?
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      • Freso
        I think Picard has too many options as it is. I also don't use Picard's "local ca", so I have never used the drag and drop, so no comment on that. (zas' approach does make sense though, to not inadvertently remove data/cover art—I assume it's possible to remove individual images in the interface?)
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      • antlarr
        Freso: I don't think so, at least, I don't know of any way to remove an image in picard
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      • antlarr
        Btw, in the branch where I'm adding the context menu, I already have a "Keep original cover art" option, and adding "Remove front cover art" / "Remove all cover art" options would be trivial to add
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      • antlarr
        IMHO I think that the Cover Art Box should only show/manipulate/work with front cover art
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      • antlarr
        Freso: Btw, just to be sure I understood you, what do you exactly mean with "I don't use Picard's local ca" ?
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      • Freso
        antlarr: I don't use local cover art with Picard, only CAA.
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      • antlarr
        But CAA is downloaded and saved to the local files, right?
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      • antlarr
        You mean that you don't change the cover art of your files with local images, right?
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      • Freso
        Yes.
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      • Freso
        antlarr: Picard has a "Local files" CA provider. I don't use that.
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      • antlarr
        ah, so the "Local files" CA provider is what loads "cover/front.jpg" images in the same directory?
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      • antlarr
        I learned something today :D
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      • antlarr
        samj1912, Freso, zas: http://i.imgur.com/lyI9SNs.png
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      • alastairp
        antlarr: is that a right-click menu?
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      • alastairp
        to me, that's a non-discoverable configuration item
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      • alastairp
        if you don't know that you can right-click, you won't
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      • antlarr
        yes, it is
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      • antlarr
        it's easier to find that drag&drop support on that same widget
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      • antlarr
        and it even hints the user that images can be dropped there
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      • antlarr
        also... a right-click menu is non-discoverable?
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      • antlarr
        what's the difference between that right-click menu and the right click menu on the file browser, metadata box, etc?
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      • samj1912
        antlarr I find it good
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      • samj1912
        And considering that it is meant for drag n drops and it doesn't clutter the options dialog, it goes fine for me
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      • antlarr
        btw, now, when "append" is selected, tracks can also show a stack of covers :D
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      • alastairp
        antlarr: it's non-discoverable because there is nothing visible that indicates that it's clickable
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      • alastairp
        I agree, drag-and-drop is non-discoverable too
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      • alastairp
        CallerNo6: good morning. When you're around can you ping me re: SoC wiki updates?
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      • antlarr
        alastairp: so what do you propose?
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      • antlarr
        alastairp: btw, this is the code for that: https://github.com/antlarr/picard/compare/album-c…
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      • alastairp
        I don't have a proposal. Just pointing out that right-clicks are not very discoverable. Not sure what we could do instead
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      • alastairp
        perhaps a dropdown menu somewhere near the image
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      • alastairp
        or a checkbox which appears under the image if you drag something on top of it
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      • antlarr
        the mouse cursor already changes to an "accept drop" cursor when you drag something over the widget
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      • alastairp
        looking again at the image that you linked to - what's the meaning of original and new cover art? if you already have an image, and you drag another one on, and you select the "append front cover" option, will it save both images to the image?
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      • alastairp
        that doesn't make sense with the words original and new
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      • antlarr
        no
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      • alastairp
        mouse cursor is still undiscoverable - you still have to know that you can drag there to try it
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      • antlarr
        that's because the file had one image and after looking up the album, the cover art will be replaced by a new one
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      • antlarr
        any image
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      • alastairp
        but I'm being picky... it's been like this for a long time. no need to make drastic changes
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      • antlarr
        hehe
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      • antlarr
        you can drag any image from your local disk or from a web page
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      • antlarr
        alastairp: if you have one regular file with one front image, set the behaviour to append and then drop another image to the cover art box you get this: http://i.imgur.com/pCL6ds2.png
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      • antlarr
        so it's clear that previously you had one image and now you have two front images
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      • alastairp
        right
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      • alastairp
        seems like perhaps it's necessary to have a more advanced cover art editor which has more space than this sidebar
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      • alastairp
        I don't know if that exists
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      • alastairp
        anyway, I don't have much time to talk about this now, sorry
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      • antlarr
        I think samj1912 is working on a refactoring of the cover art info dialog
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      • samj1912
        Yeah
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      • samj1912
        antlarr I personally have no qualms about if since the drag n drop feature is hidden anyways
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      • samj1912
        It isn't documented anywhere
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      • samj1912
        Nor is it indicated that it can be used that way
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      • samj1912
        I personally would prefer not spending much time on it, we are going to be having something more robust with 2.0 anyways
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      • alastairp
        if it's going to change in 2, I wouldn't spend any time on it
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      • alastairp
        anyway, not my project. -> other things
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      • samj1912
        Yeah, the original PR is supposed to be about showing cover art diffs
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      • samj1912
        This was just a good cherry on the top
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      • samj1912
        Also I would prefer it to not change any default behavior
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      • samj1912
        So can you make the default drag and drop option to append instead of replace and you can have the right click context menu
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      • antlarr
        ok, that's a good argument for append behaviour, indeed :)